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Sweatshop on wheels - gov. wants 16 hour trucker work days

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Lifer
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/08/trucker.rules.ap/index.html


I chose off-topic, because this isn't some haughty philosophical thing. I used to drive trucks, and as is, truckers have 70 hour work weeks. Most are already constantly tired.

Now, thanks to lobbying by big box retailers, they want to make truckers work 16 a day, 'as long as they take a 2 hour unpaid break'.

WTF?

Not only does this royally suck for truckers, it royally sucks for ppl on the road with them.

Think about how you feel after a long drive. Now do that 16 hours a day, day after day.
 
I thought most truckers would rather be able to work more and only take breaks because law requires them to?

i mean, its unsafe, but the truckers make more per day, and if you are on the road what else are you going to do?

I dunno, heard this somewhere, but as a ex-truck driver OP would probably know. 16 hour day with a 2 hour unpaid break sounds like hell.
 
Check out the actual rules as stands, and you tell me if this is not sufficient?



As quoted from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Admin:

Property-Carrying CMV drivers may not drive:

* More than 11 hours, following 10 hours off-duty.
* Beyond the 14th hour after coming on-duty, following 10 hours off-duty.
* After 60/70 hours on-duty in 7/8 consecutive days. - A driver may restart a 7/8 consecutive day period after taking 34 or more consecutive hours off duty


Simply stated, this means:

Drivers may drive up to 11 hours instead of 10 hours, but are limited to 14 hours in a duty period.

The 14-hour duty period may not be extended with off-duty time for meal and fuel stops, etc. Only the use of a sleeper berth can extend the 14-hour on-duty period.

Each duty period must begin with at least ten hours off-duty, rather than eight.

The 60 hours on-duty in 7 consecutive days, or 70 hours onduty in 8 consecutive days, remains the same, but drivers can restart the 7/8-day period by taking at least 34 consecutive hours off-duty.

16 - Hour Exception for Property-Carrying Drivers

Drivers may extend the 14 - hour on duty period by 2 hours if they :

Are released from duty at the normal work reporting location for the previous 5 duty tours AND ,

Return to the normal work reporting location and are released from work within 16 hours AND, ,

Have not used this exception within the last 6 days, except following a 34 - hour restart of a 7/8 day period.

Sleeper Berth Exception : Drivers may split on-duty time by using sleeper berth periods, but must comply with the new hours-of-service rules. These drivers may accumulate the equivalent of 10 consecutive hours off-duty by taking 2 periods of rest in the sleeper berth, provided:

1. Neither period is less than 2 hours;
2. Driving time in the period immediately before and after each rest period when added together does not exceed 11 hours; and
3. The driver does not drive after the 14th hour after coming on duty following 10 hours off-duty, where the 14th hour is calculated by:

(A) Excluding any sleeper berth period of at least 2 hours which, when added to a subsequent sleeper berth period, totals at least 10 hours; and

(B) Including all on-duty time, all off-duty time not spent in the sleeper berth, all sleeper berth periods of less than 2 hours, and any sleeper berth period not described in paragraph 3(A).


Industry Exceptions: Oil field operations, ground water well drilling operations, construction materials and equipment operations, and utility service vehicle operations must comply with the new 11-hour driving, 10 consecutive hours off-duty, and 14-hours on-duty requirements of the new rule. However, the 24-hour restart provisions applicable to these operations remains in effect.

Agricultural Exemption: Agricultural operations retain their current statutory exemption from driving time requirements for transportation occurring within a 100 air-mile radius of a farm or distribution point during planting or harvesting season within each State, as determined by the State.
 
Now your off time is also spent at many loading places. For instance, I spend my 8 hours off at a plastic factory once. They had a system where they called you on your cb when they were ready for you.

I could not sleep the whole time, cause you never know when they were going to call you.

However, this was viewed as your 'sleep time'.

 
As if there aren't enough truck drivers already cooked up on meth.

This is a GREAT idea.

:roll:
 
My dad used to drive the trucks that carry about 8 cars, and he was working on 4 hours of sleep a night. One day he loaded up a bunch of mitsubishi monteros and forgot to lower the top part all the way. the top 3 montero roofs were shaved off from an overpass. not pretty... the business (not his) went down because of this incident.
 
How is it physically possible to have a 16-hour workday? Unless you drive with a partner who takes over the wheel...
 
I don't know about 16-hour workdays, but wasn't the whole anthrax scare at the Senate office building over the new, more restrictive truckers laws passed in 2004? I don't think truckers want restrictions, but this might be going too far.
 
Originally posted by: vi_edit
As if there aren't enough truck drivers already cooked up on meth.

This is a GREAT idea.

:roll:



Really, most drivers are not like this. You'd be suprised how many are out there that are trained well in other fields that have disappeared. I know many MIS majors out there driving rigs.

There are the stereotypical 'arsehole' truckers.

More and more truckers are younger family guys that just have nowhere else to go in the economy.

You'd be suprised how many have better computer gear in their rig, than you do in your home 🙂 I had many counterstrike sessions in a truckstop wirelessly 🙂
 
Originally posted by: paulney
How is it physically possible to have a 16-hour workday? Unless you drive with a partner who takes over the wheel...

I've had quite a few of them. But I wasn't hauling a 50+ foot long trailer either though. I would drive 5 hours, work 8, drive 5 back home. Not fun.
 
Originally posted by: paulney
How is it physically possible to have a 16-hour workday? Unless you drive with a partner who takes over the wheel...

my friend regularly worked 14-16 hour days during the summer for his dad; farmers...work by 6am...til 8 or 10pm. shower, eat, sleep, repeat. didn't seem to bother him as far as being tired was concerned. also didnt seem to bother him not having a life, bah to that.
 
Originally posted by: paulney
How is it physically possible to have a 16-hour workday? Unless you drive with a partner who takes over the wheel...


You do it, or the company takes the next driving school grad and hands them your rig.

Get fired from too many companies, they may you unhireable by big transport companies. Then you either quit or end up working for small outfits that generally have horrible reps and pay very low.
 
Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: paulney
How is it physically possible to have a 16-hour workday? Unless you drive with a partner who takes over the wheel...

my friend regularly worked 14-16 hour days during the summer for his dad; farmers...work by 6am...til 8 or 10pm. shower, eat, sleep, repeat. didn't seem to bother him as far as being tired was concerned. also didnt seem to bother him not having a life, bah to that.


As a farmer, he could look forward to the 'end of season'. Truckers have no end of season. I don't mind working hard for short durations - but constantly? It will wear you down.

I use to work for a cotton gin when I was younger during cotton season (around 13 weeks). I worked 15 hours a day 7 days a week - made more cash than I did the entire rest of the year.

However, if I had to do that all year, I'd probably long since offed myself.
 
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