Swastikas Burned Into Jewish Family's Yard

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Swastikas Burned Into Jewish Family's Yard

LAWRENCEVILLE, Ga. (Aug. 29) - Vandals burned swastikas and obscenities into the lawn of a Jewish family, splattering windows with eggs and fouling the front porch of their home.

Two swastikas were spray-painted in the road in front of Ginger Ragans' two-story home Sunday and a third was etched onto her lawn, along with the word "Fascist" and an obscenity scrawled in the grass. Her trees were draped with toilet paper and someone had urinated and defecated on the porch.

Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.

Ragans, 36, who has lived in the neighborhood for 10 years, said the incident likely was the work of neighborhood teens retaliating against her for her work as a neighborhood liaison for a community watchdog program.

In a recent edition of the community's newsletter, she mentioned that cameras had caught groups of teens hanging around the tennis courts long after the county's midnight curfew.

Although this is not the first time neighborhood homes have been vandalized, she said she's concerned the culprits are becoming more aggressive.

"I could handle the toilet paper and the egging," she said. "But for them to put swastikas and write 'fascist,' that turned it personal."
 

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Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.
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Ragans, 36, who has lived in the neighborhood for 10 years, said the incident likely was the work of neighborhood teens retaliating against her for her work as a neighborhood liaison for a community watchdog program.


wtf? logical behaviour by the kids :p
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: dug777
Ragans, 36, who has lived in the neighborhood for 10 years, said the incident likely was the work of neighborhood teens retaliating against her for her work as a neighborhood liaison for a community watchdog program.


wtf? logical behaviour by the kids :p

Um, WTF? How is this "logical?"
 

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Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.
Detective on the scene, BillyBobJoeCletus McGillicutty, was quoted as saying, "Well, it's not like the put a burning cross in her yard like we, uh I mean they, used to do in my day... I am sure that it was just a bunch of boys having some harmless fun after a few beers at the drive-in...
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Ragans, 36, who has lived in the neighborhood for 10 years, said the incident likely was the work of neighborhood teens retaliating against her for her work as a neighborhood liaison for a community watchdog program.


wtf? logical behaviour by the kids :p

Um, WTF? How is this "logical?"
Logical from the kids point of view.

Rebelling against rules, adults, etc.

I have to admit, I've never liked "Neighborhood Watch" programs. Just what we need, paranoid neighbors.

But I digress... What these people did is clearly unacceptable, not to mention criminal.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Ragans, 36, who has lived in the neighborhood for 10 years, said the incident likely was the work of neighborhood teens retaliating against her for her work as a neighborhood liaison for a community watchdog program.


wtf? logical behaviour by the kids :p

Um, WTF? How is this "logical?"

your sarcasm meter broken today? ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: dug777
Ragans, 36, who has lived in the neighborhood for 10 years, said the incident likely was the work of neighborhood teens retaliating against her for her work as a neighborhood liaison for a community watchdog program.


wtf? logical behaviour by the kids :p

Um, WTF? How is this "logical?"

:p = sarcasm I'm thinking.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.
Detective on the scene, BillyBobJoeCletus McGillicutty, was quoted as saying, "Well, it's not like the put a burning cross in her yard like we, uh I mean they, used to do in my day... I am sure that it was just a bunch of boys having some harmless fun after a few beers at the drive-in...

That is not what they are saying at all. The kids no doubt knew that the woman was jewish and obviously wanted to cause some trouble for her so they chose what they thought would be the most offensive thing they could do. Not boys having harmless fun but also not skinheads bent on eliminating jews from the planet. The later incident is what would rightly be called hate, the former just stupidity and ignorance.
 
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she is probably the local nosy neighbor / HOA nazi and deserved it

then again, no one really deserves that
 

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
she is probably the local nosy neighbor / HOA nazi and deserved it

then again, no one really deserves that
gee, ya think?

man, racists must be the dumbest people on the planet.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.
Detective on the scene, BillyBobJoeCletus McGillicutty, was quoted as saying, "Well, it's not like the put a burning cross in her yard like we, uh I mean they, used to do in my day... I am sure that it was just a bunch of boys having some harmless fun after a few beers at the drive-in...

That is not what they are saying at all. The kids no doubt knew that the woman was jewish and obviously wanted to cause some trouble for her so they chose what they thought would be the most offensive thing they could do. Not boys having harmless fun but also not skinheads bent on eliminating jews from the planet. The later incident is what would rightly be called hate, the former just stupidity and ignorance.
Is BillyBobJoeCletus your dad?
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Eli


I have to admit, I've never liked "Neighborhood Watch" programs. Just what we need, paranoid neighbors.

Neighborhood Watches are great. We need MORE citizens watching out for themselves instead of hiding behind locked doors or being lambs for the slaughter expecting the police and government to protect them.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Eli


I have to admit, I've never liked "Neighborhood Watch" programs. Just what we need, paranoid neighbors.

Neighborhood Watches are great. We need MORE citizens watching out for themselves instead of hiding behind locked doors or being lambs for the slaughter expecting the police and government to protect them.

i advocate neighbourhood militias personally ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Eli


I have to admit, I've never liked "Neighborhood Watch" programs. Just what we need, paranoid neighbors.

Neighborhood Watches are great. We need MORE citizens watching out for themselves instead of hiding behind locked doors or being lambs for the slaughter expecting the police and government to protect them.

Agreed!
 

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i wonder if they pooped on the spot or brought the poop in a doggie bag.
 

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Eli


I have to admit, I've never liked "Neighborhood Watch" programs. Just what we need, paranoid neighbors.

Neighborhood Watches are great. We need MORE citizens watching out for themselves instead of hiding behind locked doors or being lambs for the slaughter expecting the police and government to protect them.

I agree. And to take the idea even further, railroad buffs should not be harassed and threatened with arrest for taking legal photos of trains when they are also keeping a watch on things and can report any suspicious activity they see while they are out enjoying their harmless hobby.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Eli
Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.
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Well since they called her a fascist, it's possible that the swastikas were meant to compare her to the Nazis, not offend her as a Jew. The question is whether they KNEW she was Jewish.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: BMdoobieW
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Eli


I have to admit, I've never liked "Neighborhood Watch" programs. Just what we need, paranoid neighbors.

Neighborhood Watches are great. We need MORE citizens watching out for themselves instead of hiding behind locked doors or being lambs for the slaughter expecting the police and government to protect them.

I agree. And to take the idea even further, railroad buffs should not be harassed and threatened with arrest for taking legal photos of trains when they are also keeping a watch on things and can report any suspicious activity they see while they are out enjoying their harmless hobby.

Um, OK. But that post is pointless without a back story. :confused:
 

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Good news about this incident is that for every idiot out there like this there are many many more good people.

Horrified neighbors flocked to the Raganses' home Sunday to help clean up. So many showed up that the family had to turn people away, Ginger Ragans said.

Lee Ragans said expressions of support have included e-mail from a cantor in Boston and offers of help from the owner of a metro area home remodeling firm.

"The outpouring has been amazing," he said.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Eli
Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.
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Well since they called her a fascist, it's possible that the swastikas were meant to compare her to the Nazis, not offend her as a Jew. The question is whether they KNEW she was Jewish.

Actually, the fact that they painted fascist is probably what would make it a non-hate crime unless it was a hate crime and they are just REALLY fvcking stupid...
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Gwinnett County police are investigating the vandalism in the town northeast of Atlanta and are uncertain whether to classify it as a hate crime, spokesman Darren Moloney said.
Detective on the scene, BillyBobJoeCletus McGillicutty, was quoted as saying, "Well, it's not like the put a burning cross in her yard like we, uh I mean they, used to do in my day... I am sure that it was just a bunch of boys having some harmless fun after a few beers at the drive-in...

That is not what they are saying at all. The kids no doubt knew that the woman was jewish and obviously wanted to cause some trouble for her so they chose what they thought would be the most offensive thing they could do. Not boys having harmless fun but also not skinheads bent on eliminating jews from the planet. The later incident is what would rightly be called hate, the former just stupidity and ignorance.

As if classifying a crime as a hate crime wasn't idiotic enough, now we have to differentiate between whether they really MEANT it to be hateful or were just being playfully hateful? mmmk.