swap a song, go to jail

[Adul]

Now they are going to resort to throwing people in jail.

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-949533.html?tag=fd_top

Now, however, the entertainment industry is revising its strategy. The new plan appears to extend the target beyond companies with an apparent declaration of legal warfare against individuals who the industry believes are swapping illicit songs or movies through peer-to-peer networks. The outcome could include jail time for those convicted of wrongful file swapping.

This move comes as copyright holders are striving to combat the continued popularity of peer-to-peer networks, which permit millions of people to link their PCs to a massive collection of files, some legal to distribute and some not. Napster's courtroom demise has not ended the popularity of such services, which are less centralized and more difficult to dismember with one legal stroke.

 

[cmdavid]

Napster's courtroom demise has not ended the popularity of such services, which are less centralized and more difficult to dismember with one legal stroke.

haha.. what'd they think was gonna happen? Napster was so great, that once they got rid of it everybody would just say, "well thats that." .. that's not the american way...

 

[Killbat]

RIAA = scary

"If the RIAA wins a judgment, it can take a cut of the defendant's future paychecks and inheritances, and the debt does not disappear even if that person files for bankruptcy."

Jesus Christ, next they'll be asking the death penalty be applied. I'll tell you one thing, if they are truly serious about this and start going around putting random MP3 swappers in jail by the hundreds or thousands, I'll be watching the news 'round the clock waiting for that van full of explosives to be driven into RIAA headquarters.

 

[TNTrulez]

No wonder American jails are overflowing.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Funny, I have alot of MP3s, yet have NEVER had a p2p file sharing program. I simply have a fast CD-ROM, ripping software, and patience

I wonder is piracy has replaced speeding as the crime most often commited without remorse. *looks at 2000 people per hour speeding on a stretch of 4 lane freeway* nah

edit: fixed stuff

 

[Soybomb]

Big fat nerd to cell mate:
BFN: What are you in for?
CM: Murder one, you?
BFN: uhhh...I downloaded a britney spears song.......

 

[Vadatajs]

I think jail time for file swapping qualifies as creul and unusual punishment. It doesn't fit the crime at all. Hopefully the first of the new fish will sue on this ground, making it a supreme court case (constitutional concerns) and hopefully leading to a repeal of Clinton's 1997 mistake.

 

[no0b]

ahh the RIAA will never stop making asses of themselves.

 

[xospec1alk]

wait, how would they track you down? so its only p2p users that will get screwed?

 

[no0b]

gotta love how RIAA is strictly targeting P2P. I would love to see them target IRC.

/me wonders if they have even heard of IRC or newsgroups and such. If this legislation goes through I would expect a huge boom in IRC usage.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

P2P
IRC
IM
FTP
HTTP
LAN
Sneaker

I honestly don't think they can stop even ONE of those.

 

[mchammer187]

makes me want to swap songs even more

 

[Rainsford]

Maybe if the RIAA put half the effort they put into legal battles into updating their products for this century they wouldn't have so many problems. Seriously, I really think the issue is more one of "it's easy" rather than "I'm cheap". At least it is for a lot of people I know. If I want to listen to a new song, why in the world would I want to go to the store and buy a CD that has a lot of songs I probably won't like and why would I want a CD when I listen to most of my music on the computer? I'll just rip it to MP3 anyways. But if I could go to a website and download the song I was looking for for $0.50 or something, that would be a much different story. I could download whatever songs I wanted and burn my own CD and they would make money. Granted that it's still not free, but if it was easier to legally get the songs they want, I think more people would do that.

I'm not sure that plan is full-proof either, but the RIAA needs to do something and get with the program. People do not want to have to go to the store and buy a CD for $15 to listen to one song that they like. Companies are supposed to change their services to suit the customer, not force the customer to buy into the companies outdated products. JHMO of course.

 

[Keego]

IRC is quite easy to track, an example of this is the emails that they sent out to all the people who downloaded Spiderman on DalNet.

I'll stick with Kazza\Grokster until it goes down, and work from there.

 

[johnjohn320]

And, we're going to fit them all in jail...how? Oh that's right, we'll just have to let some people who are already in jail go before their sentence is up.

Way to go RIAA, it's about time we cleared some of the petty murderers and rapists out of jail, gotta make room for those malicious Mp3-swappers.

 

[TallBill]

I also use the ripping strategy.. i want a song.. no problem.. i find someone that owns the cd, and i borrow it and rip it.. now i have the whole cd. Not worried about drive space either. Kinda nice having a digital collection!

 

[Ipno]

I think these guys honestly believe its all happening within US borders, and that they can stop it all by spending billions of dollars on lawyers and lobbyists and whatnot. The true crime here is the lawyers making tons of dough off all this.

RIAA exec: "There's STILL more file sharing programs out on the internet! I thought you made them all illegal!!"
Lawyer: "This one is operated out of Hong Kong sir."
RIAA exec: "Well call the senator of Hong Kong and tell him to make some more laws!!!"
Lawyer: "Uhh... there is no... er... ok give me $1 million and I'll do it."

 

[res1bhmg]

It's a scare tactic, pure and simple. Everyone from Joe6Pack to elite computer users are using file-sharing apps right now, but RIAA hopes to scare off most of the dummies by making the headlines.

 

[0ops]

Even Saudi Arabia doesn't do this.

 

[no0b]

Originally posted by: 0ops
Even Saudi Arabia doesn't do this.

lol, does Saudi Arabia even have the internet?

 

[no0b]

Originally posted by: Kyguy
IRC is quite easy to track, an example of this is the emails that they sent out to all the people who downloaded Spiderman on DalNet.

I'll stick with Kazza\Grokster until it goes down, and work from there.

checks email box hrrrm "all" isnt an appropiate word

 

[AznMaverick]

man, they should just use the money that they are using to make @$$3$ of themselves and make CD's cheaper. Come on now, 14-20 bucks for one CD which contains 9-20 songs (a majority of them most don't even listen to because they suck) is VERY not worth it.

 

[luv2chill]

I know this isn't a news flash to anybody, but the RIAA has its head up its ass. They are squandering the millions of dollars they make fleecing the artists and CD-buying public on fruitless lawsuits.

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Maybe they'll realize one of these days that expending efforts fighting the mp3 "problem" is going to lead them in circles while making some lawyers very rich, and only more firmly entrenching the camp of consumers that have realized that $15 for a CD is a total rip-off, especially when the artist only receives a small fraction of that amount.
[/run-on sentence]

I have a feeling that it will be really funny to look back on this time in music history 20 years from now, while we're all streaming whatever we want into our home/car/portable player for a modest subscription fee. It's going to happen one of these days.

l2c

 

[rbhawcroft]

Originally posted by: Adul
Now they are going to resort to throwing people in jail.http://news.com.com/2100-1023-949533.html?tag=fd_topNow, however, the entertainment industry is revising its strategy. The new plan appears to extend the target beyond companies with an apparent declaration of legal warfare against individuals who the industry believes are swapping illicit songs or movies through peer-to-peer networks. The outcome could include jail time for those convicted of wrongful file swapping.This move comes as copyright holders are striving to combat the continued popularity of peer-to-peer networks, which permit millions of people to link their PCs to a massive collection of files, some legal to distribute and some not. Napster's courtroom demise has not ended the popularity of such services, which are less centralized and more difficult to dismember with one legal stroke.

some reports today said music sales are plunging this quarter, er didnt they close audiogalaxy and the start of this quarter?

ill only be scared when they go for the ISPs, while they are acting like complete fag3 and missing the point, who cares what this weeks bluster is? lol

 

[rbhawcroft]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Maybe if the RIAA put half the effort they put into legal battles into updating their products for this century they wouldn't have so many problems. Serious
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to listen to one song that they like. Companies are supposed to change their services to suit the customer, not force the customer to buy into the companies outdated products. JHMO of course.

3-10sd on your broadband bill each month and a audio galaxy style range would be fine for almost everyone, especially if they replaced MP3 with a better format that used sound caching for repetitive sounds like base beats, then you could get better quality for the same bit rate as FFT.