SVCD or DivX, Xvid
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virtuamike
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Quite simply Divx is by far the best compression method.....and that means both Divx and Xvid as they yield very similar results. SVCD is an old and dying standard that really is showing it's age when put next to current Divx output. Use a TV out to watch Divx on any television and most movies will look as good as a DVD on a regular resolution TV.
And that'll give you what, 2 minutes of uncompressed AVI?
DVD is compressed too, just mpeg2 at a higher rate and resolution than SVCD. DivX/Xvid are close to each other for what they can do. Both can be as good as DVD, heck better, but then they'd need to be working off the original source as the DVD creator be better.
As for downloaded material, DivX/Xvid are generally going to be better than SVCD. When you're downloading...say a 2 hour home movie your friend Mike made of his kid's birthday party...and you see he's offered it as a single 700meg DivX/Xvid or two 800 meg SVCD files the overall video quality will be very close. Of course you can pop the SVCD into your DVD player and watch on your TV which may make watching two hours of kids eating birthday cake more tolerable. Two disc DivX/Xvid will be better than a two disc SVCD set for quality, but you're stuck in front of the computer or going through the TV out on your video card to the TV, which in my experience has made the video quality less than that of the SVCD choice.
Of course this all assumes Mike did the best possible encoding job on both formats. Which if he's like many people on the internet, he's not going to have done. I'd say skip downloading Mike's kid's birthday party and go rent a movie at Blockbuster instead. It's way less hassle and will look a lot better.
I built a little computer out of spare parts just for watching Divx on the TV, it even has a remote control so it is no different than using a DVD player for the most part. I also have a DVD player capable of playing SVCD and they still pale in comparison for quality even played on the TV when compared to Divx.
So far I am using Xvid the most because it encodes a lot faster on my computer and I just don't like divx as much, mainly because it is so slow encoding on my comp. Divx does give pretty good quality results though, but I can similar results from Xvid. There is also a new version of 3vix that is decent in what little I have used it.
If "Mike's birthday party" video usually come in 2 or 3 disc SVCD is the same as a single disc of divx, I'll still pick svcd since I like watching it on TV and my cd-r(s) are free. Very informative post there my friend
Originally posted by: McCarthy
And that'll give you what, 2 minutes of uncompressed AVI?
DivX/Xvid are close to each other for what they can do. Both can be as good as DVD, heck better, but then they'd need to be working off the original source as the DVD creator be better.
As for downloaded material, DivX/Xvid are generally going to be better than SVCD. When you're downloading...say a 2 hour home movie your friend Mike made of his kid's birthday party...and you see he's offered it as a single 700meg DivX/Xvid or two 800 meg SVCD files the overall video quality will be very close. Of course you can pop the SVCD into your DVD player and watch on your TV which may make watching two hours of kids eating birthday cake more tolerable. Two disc DivX/Xvid will be better than a two disc SVCD set for quality, but you're stuck in front of the computer or going through the TV out on your video card to the TV, which in my experience has made the video quality less than that of the SVCD choice.
Of course this all assumes Mike did the best possible encoding job on both formats. Which if he's like many people on the internet, he's not going to have done. I'd say skip downloading Mike's kid's birthday party and go rent a movie at Blockbuster instead. It's way less hassle and will look a lot better.
virtuamike
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Ok ok. For compression, DivX wins hands down.
But if you're gonna download for the sake of watching in front of your TV, DVD-R is the only way to go (it's a lot more available than you think). Hence screw compression.
Personally I buy my movies, because I support the movie industry. I like seeing stuff blow up (on the other hand, I WILL NOT support alien lifeforms such as Jacko selling what they supposedly call music).
But if you're gonna download for the sake of watching in front of your TV, DVD-R is the only way to go (it's a lot more available than you think). Hence screw compression.
Personally I buy my movies, because I support the movie industry. I like seeing stuff blow up (on the other hand, I WILL NOT support alien lifeforms such as Jacko selling what they supposedly call music).
Originally posted by: ViRGE
RealVideo?! Bah! Back in my day, we only had RealAudio, and we had to walk 15 miles each way to transport the packets via cart and mule. And you know what? We liked it, by george!
Can't imagine anyone ever liking Realmedia.
divx / xvid of course, but for multi purposes you should stick to SVCD as you can actually watch those on your DVD player unlike divx / xvid as they are actually a storage for the video and audio compressed into a file format.
what i do is i keep the divx and xvid as a source, and convert it to SVCD to watch it on dvd, quality will always be lost when converting from one to another format, but not that much and if you convert .avi files to mpg svcd, it's almost the same quality, just keep the bitrate higher for better quality, and with DVD R's now it shouldnt matter if the SVCD turns out to be a big file.
what i do is i keep the divx and xvid as a source, and convert it to SVCD to watch it on dvd, quality will always be lost when converting from one to another format, but not that much and if you convert .avi files to mpg svcd, it's almost the same quality, just keep the bitrate higher for better quality, and with DVD R's now it shouldnt matter if the SVCD turns out to be a big file.
There is a DVD Player that will play DVIX files now.....
I just saw it this morning.....
IDK if there are other models or if this is the only company to make this so far.
I just saw it this morning.....
IDK if there are other models or if this is the only company to make this so far.
Originally posted by: ViRGE
RealVideo?! Bah! Back in my day, we only had RealAudio, and we had to walk 15 miles each way to transport the packets via cart and mule. And you know what? We liked it, by george!
Pbbbsttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............
(Me spitting coffee all over my keyboard)
Too funny!!!
Divx is great as you can compress it to ridiculous levels and get 1 hour of footage in under 100 megs, with the quality still being watchable.
I have done a little more testing and 3vix does pretty good. I am kind of surprised really. It encodes at a decent rate on my comp too.
To be honest I don't know much about this stuff but am trying to learn.
To be honest I don't know much about this stuff but am trying to learn.
Originally posted by: ViRGE
RealVideo?! Bah! Back in my day, we only had RealAudio, and we had to walk 15 miles each way to transport the packets via cart and mule. And you know what? We liked it, by george!
Reminds me of the day when pinging was performed with messenger pigeons.
From what I've noticed, xvid tends to have a better compression rate.
SVCD certainly serves well for use in DVD players but if it's just gonna sit as a file, might as well go with xvid or divx.
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