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bluehorizon

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Sorry Im very passionate and emotional over biker bashing.. I beleive we should have more rights... ( which we are getting slowly.. lanesplitting, HOV lane permissions and other state specific laws that favor bikers coming to pass) and cars should have less and less.

they are the root of most of the accidents + polution and gas problems not to mention cars allow much too much freedom ie radios, TVs, cell phones, eating, drinking and other distractions that should all be illegal to do while driving..

BTW why dont you compare the accident statistics to just CAR VS CAR or Car VS truck or any other combination of Cars VS whatever and I guarantee over 1000% more than any biker related accidents..
You might hear about 1 or 2 bike fatatilities in your town or city per week... where are all the lists of the daily car fatalities and accidents we see every single day when we commute...
they dont publish them or show on the news unless totally horrific...
but OMFG let a sport bike screw up and it makes headlines...

bite me again car driving asshats!
talk about hypocritical...


cars + people = the devil..


Considering there are a LOT more cars than bikes in the US, one or two bike fatalities a week is a HUGE number.

I'm not bashing motocyclists one bit. I'm bashing the guys on bikes who think they have some kind of right to drive like they own the road. I'm very, very respectful of bikers. I give them plenty of room and make sure they see me when I pass them, etc. However, someone who's driving like a maniac on a bike doesn't get such courtesy. If they're going to put me in danger, I'm not going to give two sh*ts about them.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: CVSiN

Ok Moron... you rode a bike for 3 whopping years.. you prolly put on about 2k miles in that 3 years since most of your recreational bikers are weekend riders only...

Who said Im driving recklessly? the Police dont... I go past them all the time... they allow me to drive the way I do.. im not doign 100 mph through traffic but im not sitting in it either...

Ive been in 5 accidents over the 25 years and every single time the car was sited not me...
if your tupid enough to open your door on a houston freeway its not a bike thats gonna hit you but the dumb ass non license havign mexican illegal that was driving next to you... not me...

Like I said Im not a stunter and i dont do 130 mph while lane splitting or going around cars in traffic..
but i will not sit in traffic when there is another LEGAL way.. and On a bike i can lan hop in gaps you cars leave while not paying attention right through the traffic jam..
LEGALLY...

better check your state laws.. becasue as long as Im using signals and not breaking the posted speed limit i can lane change in traffic anywhere I want as long as I do it legally.. and at a reasonable speed..

BTW asshat im not talkign solely when it comes to having control.. bikers for the most part... (stunters excluded for the most part) drive safley but we are allowed slightly different traffic laws than you cagers would like...
your car is roughly 10 feet long and 5 feet wide... you need a whole lot more space to make a safe pass or lanechange.. my bike is 1.5 feet across and less than 5 feet long... i need very little lane space in front or behind or to the side of you to make a legal pass.

for the record I have NEVER been sited for illegal passing or unsafe speed in traffic...
my traffic infractions have all happened on open highway or small townships with very strict money grubbing cops...
yes I have been busted doing a 6 mile long 130 mph freeway wheelie at 4 in the morning (highway was empty except us bikes and a sleepy sherriff.. I coulda ran but i didint i took my lumps) but i learned my lesson i did my 3 days in jail and payed my 1400 dollar ticket and have not done another public wheelie since...


***better check your state laws.. becasue as long as Im using signals and not breaking the posted speed limit i can lane change in traffic anywhere I want as long as I do it legally.. and at a reasonable speed..
***

It's called reckeless driving, "moron". It's just plain stupid to swerve between cars in traffic. Absolutely, positively stupid. Not only are you risking your own life, but you're risking the chance that someone in a car will think you're getting too close and swerve to avoid you. Completely senseless and moronic. I don't really care if it's legal (and I can't image that being legal). There are plenty of stupid laws; this being one of them.


***Who said Im driving recklessly? the Police dont... ***

Wrong. The best man at my wedding is a cop. I know for a fact that they care, but most aren't concerned with one bike passing between a row of cars at a traffic light. Does that mean they don't care, and does that mean you won't eventually get stopped? No, it does not.


*** your car is roughly 10 feet long and 5 feet wide... you need a whole lot more space to make a safe pass or lanechange.. my bike is 1.5 feet across and less than 5 feet long... i need very little lane space in front or behind or to the side of you to make a legal pass.***

A 'legal' pass? How about a 'safe' pass? You obviously have a complete disregard for the safety of other people on the road. Blatantly obvious. You're so concerned with yourself that you'd put other people in danger just to save a few seconds at a light. Truly pathetic. I really hope you get your license revoked. You're a menace. It's people like you that give bikers a bad name.


***Ok Moron... you rode a bike for 3 whopping years.. you prolly put on about 2k miles in that 3 years since most of your recreational bikers are weekend riders only...***

over 10k miles, actually. I used the bike as my main mode of transportation. In three years I learned enough to know what's safe and what's not safe. I felt like I had more control on a bike than I do in a car, and I felt that I could avoid accidents easier on a bike. However, that doesn't change anything. Weaving in and out of traffic is still dangerous, no matter how in control you feel. It's unecessary. There's absolutely no reason to risk your life and the life of someone in a car just to save a few seconds. There's no excuse for it. If you feel like it's your right to do so, then you shouldn't be driving, anything, period.


define weaving in an out dangerously, i think that needs some clearing up seems like a fuzzy concept right now...
 

CVSiN

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Haha.. so stoned you are my friend..

sorry but i ride 100% more tame than half the cops Houston PD, Harris Co Constable and Harris Sherriff do when they ride sportbikes with us... i ride with 7 cops of various offices on the weekends and they are all much more reckless than I ever thought about being... most of my friends are not the stunter types and we all ride together and we will pick our way through traffic..

and im not weaving in traffic anything faster than 40mph so get off your horse you dont know me and you obvisously dont know your traffic laws either...
Im not endangering anyone by lane changing into gaps yall peeps leave open I use my blinkers and hand signals...

if you dont drive agressivly on a bike here in Texas you get flattened period.. they teach bikes to drive aggressive and stay movign to stay visible.. you sit too long behind peeps you will get flattened by some cage that never saw you...

I wear bright Orange and black when I ride I follow 98% of all traffic laws.. (minus moderate highway speeding of course which EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IS GUILTY OF) I do not lane split at over 40 mph i do not use my bike as a rocketship to "swerve" as you put it through traffic..

I do not sit in traffic i use safe means to pick my way through your gaps to save not 3 seconds try on average 20 mins of bumper to bumper houston morning traffic...
if your dumb enough to want to sit on a bike in traffic sweating your nuts off then go ahead.. Im not...
In houston with our mild weather year round there are a TON of bikes on the streets year round.. every morning commute you can watch the sportbikes and cruisers do exactly what im describing SAFELY and LEGALLY... Goldwings and larger cruisers have pretty much the same problems as cars... they cant get through the smaller holes =P
 

Doggiedog

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Originally posted by: rh71
why do these SUV accidents always involve an Explorer, Suburban, or Grand Cherokee ? Something with American SUVs ? I swear...

Never hear about a Pathfinder or Xterra or RX300 or Sequoia or Pilot or Rodeo or ... you get my point...

Um..because Explorers are the best selling SUVs in the US maybe? Domestic companies sell way more SUVs than foreign companies.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Sorry Im very passionate and emotional over biker bashing.. I beleive we should have more rights... ( which we are getting slowly.. lanesplitting, HOV lane permissions and other state specific laws that favor bikers coming to pass) and cars should have less and less.

they are the root of most of the accidents + polution and gas problems not to mention cars allow much too much freedom ie radios, TVs, cell phones, eating, drinking and other distractions that should all be illegal to do while driving..

BTW why dont you compare the accident statistics to just CAR VS CAR or Car VS truck or any other combination of Cars VS whatever and I guarantee over 1000% more than any biker related accidents..
You might hear about 1 or 2 bike fatatilities in your town or city per week... where are all the lists of the daily car fatalities and accidents we see every single day when we commute...
they dont publish them or show on the news unless totally horrific...
but OMFG let a sport bike screw up and it makes headlines...

bite me again car driving asshats!
talk about hypocritical...


cars + people = the devil..
Your hating biker bashing has nothing to do with it. You're obviously playing favorites to what you personally do... just look at all the car-bashing in your posts. There are other ways to get your point across and you're not helping bikers much...
 

bluehorizon

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: gigapet

learn how to read noob

Is stupidity something bred into your family, or did you work to acquire it??

yeah i'm really stupid, i did really bad in school, I didnt double major, I didnt get the best entry level postion possible in my field, i'm a big idiiot and a big failure in everything i do :roll:

did it every cross your mind that if/when someone doesnt see something the way you do that they might not automatically be WRONG, STUPID, IDIOT, MORON, DIM WITTED.........

that noob flew off the handle about ppl riding bikes like crazy and that was not what the other CSVN0lsdk whatev... was saying at all.....he clearly didnt read it and neither did u.....but i'm an idiot.

LOL! Flew off the handle? Everything I said was in response to a direct quote. You, however, seem to have trouble grasping the point of a post. I'm a "noob" because I have an opinion on the matter? I love hypocrits. They're so amusing :) Really dude, if you can't say anything intelligent, don't speak. Don't humiliate yourself :D


you were bashing him as if he was a speeding freak driving 190 doing wheelies in traffic......when in reality if you read his post, everything he said was directly opposed to that sort of behavior. Not every motorcyclist is maniac...but you wouldnt know that because you accept all media's portrayals as the absolute truth.....your a noob because you mouth off beforre you digest what was actually written...the guy is on your side and you were bashing him...tool.

Amazing... re-read my posts, "tool". 90% of what I said was referring to his weaving in and out of traffic, which he had stated, multiple times, that he does. If you had the ability to comprehend the jist of a simple post, maybe you would have understood that. However, you don't seem very capable in the english and grammar department ;D

And, why would anyone want to point out that they have a supposed "double major" (as well as other supposed accomplishments)? Are you that desperate to fluff yourself up? I'll let you in on a little secret, "tool". You can be an Einstein and still look completely rediculous if you speak without knowing what you're talking about. You seem to have the rediculous part down pat, and somehow I seriously doubt the Einstein part ;D
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: rh71
why do these SUV accidents always involve an Explorer, Suburban, or Grand Cherokee ? Something with American SUVs ? I swear...

Never hear about a Pathfinder or Xterra or RX300 or Sequoia or Pilot or Rodeo or ... you get my point...

Um..because Explorers are the best selling SUVs in the US maybe? Domestic companies sell way more SUVs than foreign companies.
ahh good point... why haven't they renamed it to the Exploder though ? I'm sure it will still sell, but at least it will represent itself better that way.
 

CVSiN

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Sigh BlueHorizon has a severe reading comprehension problem he doesnt really understand what he reads obviously.. just like the above posted said.. the sad thing is we are on the same side...
but he thinks that lane changing is illegal... do I need a 53 foot semi truck hole to make a change in your oppinion? have you ever really watched traffic and how big the spaces you peeps leave in between cars...

I really think you are thinking that I run through bumper to bumper traffic at 75-100+ mph like you see on Star Boyz or Las Vegas Extremes Videos... I do not... I do not run from cops just beacsue I know I can like they do.... I do not do stoppies at every single stop light .. I do not wheelie just becasue I can...


I do beleive in using my size advantage to its fullest.. if you leave a space big enough for me to lane change into I will do it... if its not enough room or id force the driver to slam on his brakes or move so i can accomplish my lane change I DO NOT...
every pass I make is safe and doesnt endanger anyone...
just becasue your not comfortable doing it doesnt make it wrong or illegal...
your prolly one of the people that wont lane change unless there are 6 car lengths between you and the nearest car.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: gigapet

learn how to read noob

Is stupidity something bred into your family, or did you work to acquire it??

yeah i'm really stupid, i did really bad in school, I didnt double major, I didnt get the best entry level postion possible in my field, i'm a big idiiot and a big failure in everything i do :roll:

did it every cross your mind that if/when someone doesnt see something the way you do that they might not automatically be WRONG, STUPID, IDIOT, MORON, DIM WITTED.........

that noob flew off the handle about ppl riding bikes like crazy and that was not what the other CSVN0lsdk whatev... was saying at all.....he clearly didnt read it and neither did u.....but i'm an idiot.

Your sooo cool. Wow, wish I was that cool. Like to brag dont you? Proud of yourself eh? Theres a fine line between cocky and confidence, you are cocky. And you just generally post crap that makes no sense and has no direction. Way to go, your such a successful champ with your double major, feild leading career and no posting ability. :roll:
 

Toasthead

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WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN TO WEAR FREAKING SEATBELTS!!!!

sheesh why are people soo stupid?
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: gigapet

learn how to read noob

Is stupidity something bred into your family, or did you work to acquire it??

yeah i'm really stupid, i did really bad in school, I didnt double major, I didnt get the best entry level postion possible in my field, i'm a big idiiot and a big failure in everything i do :roll:

did it every cross your mind that if/when someone doesnt see something the way you do that they might not automatically be WRONG, STUPID, IDIOT, MORON, DIM WITTED.........

that noob flew off the handle about ppl riding bikes like crazy and that was not what the other CSVN0lsdk whatev... was saying at all.....he clearly didnt read it and neither did u.....but i'm an idiot.

Your sooo cool. Wow, wish I was that cool. Like to brag dont you? Proud of yourself eh? Theres a fine line between cocky and confidence, you are cocky. And you just generally post crap that makes no sense and has no direction. Way to go, your such a successful champ with your double major, feild leading career and no posting ability. :roll:


posting ability is great on a resume...i should craft my posts more carefully from now on.
 

CVSiN

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lay off of Giga man... he was mearly spouting off to the moron that attacked him and me for having an oppinion.. he was mearly pointing out that he is indeed educated and can comprehend what was being stated and is capable of having his own oppionion...
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: gigapet
you were bashing him as if he was a speeding freak driving 190 doing wheelies in traffic......when in reality if you read his post, everything he said was directly opposed to that sort of behavior. Not every motorcyclist is maniac...but you wouldnt know that because you accept all media's portrayals as the absolute truth.....your a noob because you mouth off beforre you digest what was actually written...the guy is on your side and you were bashing him...tool.

Pot meet kettle. Read his posts again and you'll see he even admits to doing EXACTLY what you just posted about right there. In addition, if you read his first post you'll see he all but admits to driving like a complete drooling reject of society on his bike, and tries to justify it by pointing his finger at cars.
But your too busy looking at your double major on the wall to consider that arent you
 

Turfzilla

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Thats weird, I was right next to thoes guys.. There were three of them. 2 were riding Honda CBR F4i 600's and one was on a Suzuki GSXR 600.. They were doing wheelies down the highway and doing stoppies when traffic was slow.. Thats crazy!!!
 

CVSiN

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Um shockwave where exactly did I say that..
you too suffer from not reading everything then spouting off...
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: gigapet

learn how to read noob

Is stupidity something bred into your family, or did you work to acquire it??

yeah i'm really stupid, i did really bad in school, I didnt double major, I didnt get the best entry level postion possible in my field, i'm a big idiiot and a big failure in everything i do :roll:

did it every cross your mind that if/when someone doesnt see something the way you do that they might not automatically be WRONG, STUPID, IDIOT, MORON, DIM WITTED.........

that noob flew off the handle about ppl riding bikes like crazy and that was not what the other CSVN0lsdk whatev... was saying at all.....he clearly didnt read it and neither did u.....but i'm an idiot.

LOL! Flew off the handle? Everything I said was in response to a direct quote. You, however, seem to have trouble grasping the point of a post. I'm a "noob" because I have an opinion on the matter? I love hypocrits. They're so amusing :) Really dude, if you can't say anything intelligent, don't speak. Don't humiliate yourself :D


you were bashing him as if he was a speeding freak driving 190 doing wheelies in traffic......when in reality if you read his post, everything he said was directly opposed to that sort of behavior. Not every motorcyclist is maniac...but you wouldnt know that because you accept all media's portrayals as the absolute truth.....your a noob because you mouth off beforre you digest what was actually written...the guy is on your side and you were bashing him...tool.

Amazing... re-read my posts, "tool". 90% of what I said was referring to his weaving in and out of traffic, which he had stated, multiple times, that he does. If you had the ability to comprehend the jist of a simple post, maybe you would have understood that. However, you don't seem very capable in the english and grammar department ;D

And, why would anyone want to point out that they have a supposed "double major" (as well as other supposed accomplishments)? Are you that desperate to fluff yourself up? I'll let you in on a little secret, "tool". You can be an Einstein and still look completely rediculous if you speak without knowing what you're talking about. You seem to have the rediculous part down pat, and somehow I seriously doubt the Einstein part ;D


i'll break it down for you....

i've never been on a bike.

My whole point here was not to impress u with good grammar and spelling as i dont care for such things when posting in an informal environment like ATOT....although i truly hope your grammar nazi tendencies help you sleep at night

what i was pointing out is that you are stupid becasue you are arguing with someone who has the same opinion as you...

you assume his weaving is dangerous....he is saying he does not weave dangerously and opposes those who do....same view as you..thats all i was trying to say..but you were too busy trying to find flaws in my grammar, spelling and punctuation to realize you were areguing with someone about something that you both agree on......i repeat.....tool.
 
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Originally posted by: Rallispec
while i'm not condoning what the motorcyclists did-- i'm sure they were being reckless-- the SUV passengers are your real idiots though
Only one was wearing a seat belt.

anybody who doesnt where a seatbelt is retarded in my opinion.

I bet not one of the motorcyclists was wearing a seatbelt. ;)
 

CVSiN

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you have seatbelt laws.. we have helmet laws =P
bet every one of them "stunters" was wearing a helmet.
same thing =P
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: gigapet
you were bashing him as if he was a speeding freak driving 190 doing wheelies in traffic......when in reality if you read his post, everything he said was directly opposed to that sort of behavior. Not every motorcyclist is maniac...but you wouldnt know that because you accept all media's portrayals as the absolute truth.....your a noob because you mouth off beforre you digest what was actually written...the guy is on your side and you were bashing him...tool.

Pot meet kettle. Read his posts again and you'll see he even admits to doing EXACTLY what you just posted about right there. In addition, if you read his first post you'll see he all but admits to driving like a complete drooling reject of society on his bike, and tries to justify it by pointing his finger at cars.
But your too busy looking at your double major on the wall to consider that arent you

what ? where? when? please pull these quotes out of the air for us.
 

Doggiedog

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Though I've never ridden a bike (don't want to bc I know I'll like it), I can understand the motorcyclist's point of view. There are just way too many terrible drivers out there, equally amongst SUV and car, and one mistake on a motorcycle and you are toast.

OTOH, I think motorcycle riding is almost always a choice. Not one single friend I know or have known who rides a bike does it because of necessity. They do it because its fun, cheaper, etc. So I guess with your choice comes the drawbacks which is more hazardous conditions. You really can't change that because it will always be that way (at least until we get auto piloted cars). Its unsafe enough out there for regular car drivers so motorcyclists should be aware of the dangers.

In advance, SUV driving is not always a choice either. I don't want to get into the specifics bc we've gone through it so many times with the anti-SUV threads but there are times when cars, station wagons and mini-vans just don't do it. If you look at the suburban involved in this accident, it had 8 people in it. I'm sure there are a lot of situations where SUVs are a more appropriate choice for people versus other vehicles.
 

Shockwave

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Hey bite me asshat..
why should I have to sit in traffic with your dumb SUV gass guzzling ass..
If I can find a way through traffic on my bike Im gonna take it...
and in most states a cop isnt even gonna look 2x at me for doign it... unless im doign it at 100 mph..

Even if its dangerous and generally unsafe. You as much admittied it. "If I can find a way through traffic I'm going to take it"
Way to be concerned about safety. You didnt ONCE mention safety. So i assume your like all the other b1ker bois and just haul ass right between cars. Again, admittance since you said as much... "A cop isnt even gonna look....Unless its at 100MPH"

I hate you fvcking cage driving asshats... This is the only country in the world that has more cars than motocycles, bicycles and other modes of transportation..

Just straight out bullshyte. Nuff said.

you people piss me off.. you clog up the roads with your 3000 lb gas guzzing hunks of crap and pollute the world...

Your right. Traffic jams NEVER existed before SUV's hit the road did they? And Lord knows SUV's are the ONLY form of pollution. Power plants, cars, farm equipment, industires....THEY dont pollute....

bite me..
yes I speed alot.. but most of the time there are cars going faster than me...

Again, admittance of speed. But, why should you lane split if "most of the time.....cars going faster then me"? So, traffic generally is going faster then you but you need to lane split... Hmmm... Well, since you admit to lane splitting, you admit to speeding AND you admit most cars are going faster then you my belief is your once again like other b1ker bois and just flat out hauling ass and driving unsafely. But, when you get in a wreck driving like a dumbass its the cars fault.... Interesting logic.

BTW in several states lane splitting with bikes is 100% legal... we can use the same lane you are in and go past you...
and if you interfere YOU get the ticket...
not me...

Try that argument in court when your getting sued. If you lane split and cause an accident I seriously doubt ANYONE would find the car at fault. Its about driving safely, something you obviously have no clue about. You think the highway is your personal playground.

if you stupid a$$holes in cars would learn when you see bikes to no freak out when you see bikes coming and hold your lane straight and not flinch when we do come by there would be no accidents..
I need less than 1 foot space to get through safely... I will lane split and continue to lane split and weave through dumb ass "cages" till hell freezes over I have been doign it for 25 years and I dont plan on not doing it anymore...

Because having a biek come out of nowhere at 90 miles an hour and fly RIGHT past you at less then a foot away doesnt seem like we're freaking out when we see a bike. Its the fact the bike has complete disregard for even TRYING to be noticed. Because if they DID want to be noticed they wouldnt lane split while doing 90. Its hard enough to see a bike, even harder when his front end is glowing red from the speed and flying past you.

Fvcking cars.. just beacuse you cant do something safely that we can on a bike you guys cry and whine...

FINALLY a mention of safety!! But, lane splitting at 90 ISNT SAFE. You arent noticed till the last minute which can startle a driver, and frankly it has nothing to do about "cry and whine" it has to do about most bikers feeling because they CAN get around easier they SHOULD. Once again, throwing safety right to the wind.

riding a bike in traffic is dumb.. and unsafe... you idiots on your cell phones and listenign to your boom music while eating your breakfast or slapping the kids... all I can do when I rode my bike is concentrate on the road.. there is no doing my hair or talking on my cell.. its 100% concetration when I ride to make sure you fvcktards dont run my ass over...

Does that concentration mean your trying to be noticed and drive safely on the road? Not if your speeding and lane splitting. So while your full concentration is on driving, it probably should be because your driving unsafely!! When I'm driving 120MPH you can damn well bet I'm not chatting on the phone or eating either!!

getting past the traffic by using holes to get past traffic is a perfectly viable technique used by every biker I have ever met.. and backed up by law enforcement as long as blinkers/handsignals are used and we dont do it at mach 1...

But you usually have to be doing Mach 1 if your highway lane splitting. Most trafifc drives at speed limit, give or take 5 miles under and 10 over. So, to lane split much at all you HAVE to be hauling ass and driving unsafely.

I dont consider myself a reckless rider.. I have way more skill and control over my vehicle than 97% of the stupid ass sardine can drivers out there.. 15 years of race training and 25 years of riding bikes on the street.. Im used to being less than 2 inches from another bike at 150 mph..

Think we should turn Mike Schumaker loose with his race car? I mean... Hes a race driver and has experience, so he should get to go 200 on the highways right?? The highway ISNT a racetrack!! I would think a racer should be smart enough to know when to drive fast and when not. Not suprisingly,such is not the case. I'd re-evaluate your "I dont consider myself a reckless driver" statement. You HAVE to be by everything you've said previously. And your blaming the cars for causing such a problem

jsut casue you idiots are so distracted by your lives to look out for us doesnt make me the Darwin Winner... yes there are squids out there that ride wheelies through traffic... but that is a minority mostly the new wow bikes are trendy club...

We DO look out for you, but driving WAY over the speed limit like an asshat doesnt give us much chance to even see you before you go zooming by.

Your whole argument there points to the fact you drive unsafely. You speed, you lane split and have very little regard for the safety of yourself OR others. The only forgiving fact is you do it on a bike, so frankly I'd have no problems running or crazy biking driving butt right over and not giving a second thought to it. If YOUR endangering your life on a bike by driving wrecklessly, I have no regard for your safety. And a good majority of other ATOT'ers wont either based on the post of the guy who's neighbor ran a stop sign and hit a bike and killed him. Remember? No one had much regard for the guy because he didnt wear a helmet. Well, you wear a helmet but drive wrecklessly, which in essence means you have no regard for your own safety.

And the real money cincher? FURTHER proof you do INDEED drive wrecklessly...

Originally posted by: CVSiN

for the record I have NEVER been sited for illegal passing or unsafe speed in traffic...
my traffic infractions have all happened on open highway or small townships with very strict money grubbing cops...
yes I have been busted doing a 6 mile long 130 mph freeway wheelie at 4 in the morning (highway was empty except us bikes and a sleepy sherriff.. I coulda ran but i didint i took my lumps) but i learned my lesson i did my 3 days in jail and payed my 1400 dollar ticket and have not done another public wheelie since...

So, have you or havent you ever been cited......

I think what we have here is a b1ker boi who wants to be able to LEGALLY drive as unsafe as is humanly possible.
 

bluehorizon

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Originally posted by: gigapet

you assume his weaving is dangerous....he is saying he does not weave dangerously and opposes those who do....same view as you..thats all i was trying to say..but you were too busy trying to find flaws in my grammar, spelling and punctuation to realize you were areguing with someone about something that you both agree on......i repeat.....tool.

Aside from the grammar, what you've said doesn't jive with the point of either post. Let me break it down to you, for the second time. My point was that (why do I need to keep repeating myself to you?) ANY weaving is dangerous. How many times did I say it was stupid to weave between traffic just to save a few seconds? Many times. His weaving, whether he thinks it's dangerous or not, is still dangerous, because the very act of driving between lanes of cars is unsafe. Now how do you come to the conclusion that we both agree? What kind of moron would come to that conclusion when there's obviously two very different points of view at hand? Oh, wait, nevermind... I thought I explained this clearly more than once. Obviously, as I said, you have a problem grasping the concept of a post. Way-to humiliate yourself again dude. Keep up the good work, "tool"!

By the way, calling someone a "noob" and a "tool" (especially when you're wrong, like in your case) only makes you look like a uneducated fool.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: bluehorizon
Originally posted by: gigapet

you assume his weaving is dangerous....he is saying he does not weave dangerously and opposes those who do....same view as you..thats all i was trying to say..but you were too busy trying to find flaws in my grammar, spelling and punctuation to realize you were areguing with someone about something that you both agree on......i repeat.....tool.

Aside from the grammar, what you've said doesn't jive with the point of either post. Let me break it down to you, for the second time. My point was that (why do I need to keep repeating myself to you?) ANY weaving is dangerous. How many times did I say it was stupid to weave between traffic just to save a few seconds? Many times. His weaving, whether he thinks it's dangerous or not, is still dangerous, because the very act of driving between lanes of cars is unsafe. Now how do you come to the conclusion that we both agree? What kind of moron would come to that conclusion when there's obviously two very different points of view at hand? Oh, wait, nevermind... I thought I explained this clearly more than once. Obviously, as I said, you have a problem grasping the concept of a post. Way-to humiliate yourself again dude. Keep up the good work, "tool"!

By the way, calling someone a "noob" and a "tool" (especially when you're wrong, like in your case) only makes you look like a uneducated fool.



will somebody friggin define 'weaving' already

i am seeing it as changing lanes......changing lanes is not illegal, dangerous, impractical, etc.....

wtf iis weaving to you?

how do u get off exits or pass without changing lanes? do you hover?