Susie Linux 7.2

Rottie

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I have not install Susie Linux 7.2 on my computer yet. I am thinking maybe on my laptop. Does Susie Linux 7.2 upgradable to 9.1? If so how?

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n0cmonkey

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I wouldn't bother with it. 7.2 is quite old and the update process might be more than it's worth.
 

drag

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What you could do is one of two things.

remember that all your user's options/specifications are stored in .name files and directories in your home directory. The . before the name makes them hidden. Well since this is such a big version change those configs may cause problems with newer applications, so I'd delete all those one by one.

Then clean up your home directory.

Now if you have a seperate /home partition you just skip formatting that when you format the old OS and and install the new one over it. All you'd have to do then is make sure that the /home mount is correctly setup and do a "chown -R username:groupname /home/username" to fix any permissions problems.

If you don't have a seperate home partition then you can simply make a tarball of your home directory and copy it over to a share on your desktop computer, or upload it to a ftp server on your desktop. I'd bet that you'd have room enough for it since this is probably a older laptop with small disk space.


Then after your finished formatting and isntalling 9.1 you copy the home tarball and untar it into the proper location and do the chown stuff.

That way you can get a updated OS, have eveything clean and new, and not loose your user's files.

I think the setup from Suse 7.1 to 9.1 would be worth the effort. You'd probably have to shut off all the newer eye candy stuff, but I think the improvements in usability would make it worthwhile.
 

Rottie

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I wouldn't bother with it. 7.2 is quite old and the update process might be more than it's worth.

Maybe it is not for my computer but for my old laptop it does not have fancy laptop.

 

Rottie

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Originally posted by: drag
What you could do is one of two things.

remember that all your user's options/specifications are stored in .name files and directories in your home directory. The . before the name makes them hidden. Well since this is such a big version change those configs may cause problems with newer applications, so I'd delete all those one by one.

Then clean up your home directory.

Now if you have a seperate /home partition you just skip formatting that when you format the old OS and and install the new one over it. All you'd have to do then is make sure that the /home mount is correctly setup and do a "chown -R username:groupname /home/username" to fix any permissions problems.

If you don't have a seperate home partition then you can simply make a tarball of your home directory and copy it over to a share on your desktop computer, or upload it to a ftp server on your desktop. I'd bet that you'd have room enough for it since this is probably a older laptop with small disk space.


Then after your finished formatting and isntalling 9.1 you copy the home tarball and untar it into the proper location and do the chown stuff.

That way you can get a updated OS, have eveything clean and new, and not loose your user's files.

I think the setup from Suse 7.1 to 9.1 would be worth the effort. You'd probably have to shut off all the newer eye candy stuff, but I think the improvements in usability would make it worthwhile.

Thank you for detail information.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Rottie
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I wouldn't bother with it. 7.2 is quite old and the update process might be more than it's worth.

Maybe it is not for my computer but for my old laptop it does not have fancy laptop.

Ok. I was thinking about getting a fish. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it, does it?
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Rottie
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I wouldn't bother with it. 7.2 is quite old and the update process might be more than it's worth.

Maybe it is not for my computer but for my old laptop it does not have fancy laptop.

Ok. I was thinking about getting a fish. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it, does it?

Give him a break you bastard :p English obviously isn't his first language (or at least I hope not :confused: )

Rottie: why do you even want to bother with 7.2? Why can't you just install 9.1 first?
 

n0cmonkey

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Alright alright. My original point is something along the lines of: The upgrade process from 7.2 to 9.1 might be more work than it is truly worth if you have neither installed at the moment. A quick FTP installation of 9.1 should be a lot easier than the upgrade option.
 

Rottie

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Originally posted by: kamper
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Rottie
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I wouldn't bother with it. 7.2 is quite old and the update process might be more than it's worth.

Maybe it is not for my computer but for my old laptop it does not have fancy laptop.

Ok. I was thinking about getting a fish. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you think about it, does it?

Give him a break you bastard :p English obviously isn't his first language (or at least I hope not :confused: )

Rottie: why do you even want to bother with 7.2? Why can't you just install 9.1 first?

9.1 might not work with old computer like 486 CPU and limited memory.
 

drag

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Ya you need like a minimum of 32megs or maybe even 64megs.

How exactly old is this laptop?!
 

Rottie

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Originally posted by: drag
Ya you need like a minimum of 32megs or maybe even 64megs.

How exactly old is this laptop?!

maybe 15 year old. Not sure.
 

manly

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
They made laptops in 1989?
Of course they did. Not 486 laptops, but portables existed since the Compaq luggable. :p

Even SUSE Linux 7.x is probably too "big" for a 486 laptop though.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
They made laptops in 1989?

I have a 286 laptop lying around from way before 89.

They didn't make *notebooks* in 89 though.
 

MDE

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I've seen 486-66 laptops, it was hell trying to install Win95 on it...
 

drag

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I had a ancient laptop like that once. A 386 I beleive...

Not sure, it had a optional MMU upgrade for it, but I couldn't find a chip to stick in there.

I got linux installed on it once, but the lack of memory was the real killer. When you get under 8megs of RAM things start getting interesting. Around 4megs is very interesting.

You see most linux floppies don't actually run off of the floppy, they load a compressed image (in it's decompressed form) into RAM. So you end up having to have enough RAM to run the OS + hold the OS in a RAM disk.

So if you don't have enough RAM to do this then it gets difficult. Plus it had no networking capabilities to speak of so that every file I needed to transfer onto the disk had to go thru floppies, and that was fairly difficult and time consuming. Especially since my floppies are ancient and spent as much time on the floor as they do in the desk.

So eventually what I did was install a old version of DOS (6.00 not 6.22) and setup ppp over a null modem cable to my desktop and used kermit as a vt100 terminal for my desktop. It was very good for that, and I recommend that very much for anybody that has a old laptop.

However the ghosting on the ancient LCD display (only black and white btw) got to me and gave me I strain. So I installed some old dos games on it and gave it to my siblings as a curiousity/toy.

That is a nice thing though if you have a bunch of headless Linux servers. You can setup Lilo (and maybe grub) to run the main console/bootup screen thru a serial based tty, and thus be able to lock down your machine and still have it accessable thru a null modem serial cable (also called laplink for a popular commercial product that sold null modem cables as file transfer devices to and from your Win9x machines.)
 

Rottie

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I don't know when they made laptop/notebook...15 years ago might be wrong for me I just got it from yard sale 5 years ago.