SnowyEnigma

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While I was checking out the frozen diner section at my local shaws I happened to notice a sushi bar/section. I thought to my self "hey this would make a great lunch, it's cold and ready to eat plus it does'nt taste too bad". So If I picked one of these up (9 to a package) every night on my way home to eat for lunch the next day I'd image it would be pretty healthy? Yes? No?
 

Cattlegod

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yes until you got a bad batch. and the whole taking it home for the next day might not be good, dunno though.
 

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Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.
 

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Unless you are going with the pre-cooked sushi, like california roll, I wouldn't recommend buying sushi and eating the next day for lunch. There are too many temperature fluxuations for me to trust. It is raw meat, and it is a playground for microbes.

It is pretty healthy though, all things considered. My only concern is catching a case of food poisoning.

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SnowyEnigma

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Well I agree with the "not fresh" part, but I'd be buying the "grilled salmon" one instead of raw. So I'd imagine it would last longer, refrigirated of course.
 

zoiks

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.
 

SnowyEnigma

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.

Well I don't have to worry there, I saw the person preparing the dish and she looked pretty japanese.
 

thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: SnowyEnigma
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.

Well I don't have to worry there, I saw the person preparing the dish and she looked pretty japanese.

:roll: oh boy..

Any half decent sushi is almost always prepared by a male. It's a tradition. Also just because she looked Japanese doesn't mean she is Japanese and most likely I'll question your ability to judge the difference...

I can tell if a Japanese restaurant is even Japanese owned simply by the restaurant name.
 

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Well, aside from tasting a little stale if you save them overnight (rice dries, fish gets rubbery), your only problem would really be that after a couple of days of sushi for lunch, your farts smell like ... sushi. For weeks on end, you might start worrying about mercury or somesuch, but I assure you that the stench of your own farts will cure you of those plans after only a few days.
 

zoiks

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.

I totally disagree. Fresh fish that seem healthy also almost always have worms or eggs. I've caught fish in the ocean and have seen worms in the guts and even in the flesh when the fish was filleted. Sometimes its impossible to see the eggs as well.

You can trust the chef, but I wouldn't. I'm sure a chef won't be throwing a big nice fish out just because it has worms in it.

 

SnowyEnigma

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Damnit what am I going to eat for lunch then? I need to find something that's health, doesn't need to be cooked/microwaved and can last overnight. Any ideas?
 

thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.

I totally disagree. Fresh fish that seem healthy also almost always have worms or eggs. I've caught fish in the ocean and have seen worms in the guts and even in the flesh when the fish was filleted. Sometimes its impossible to see the eggs as well.

You can trust the chef, but I wouldn't. I'm sure a chef won't be throwing a big nice fish out just because it has worms in it.

There's a BIG difference between you and a professional who sells fish to Japanese restaurants. You should actually study how Japanese buyers actually pick their fish to sell. They are almost unrealistically picky about their source and would actually pay 10x more for higher quality. It's very interesting stuff really and I'm not joking around.
 

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Originally posted by: SnowyEnigma
Damnit what am I going to eat for lunch then? I need to find something that's health, doesn't need to be cooked/microwaved and can last overnight. Any ideas?

um learn to make sandwiches?

i make my own california rolls and eat them the next day. but then the fish is cooked, so not as much of a problem.

you can pick up cucumber rolls or avocado rolls if you really need to eat sushi.

healthy/doesn't need to be cooked/overnight doesn't always go together. even salads that have the dressing mixed in don't last overnight.
 

zoiks

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.

I totally disagree. Fresh fish that seem healthy also almost always have worms or eggs. I've caught fish in the ocean and have seen worms in the guts and even in the flesh when the fish was filleted. Sometimes its impossible to see the eggs as well.

You can trust the chef, but I wouldn't. I'm sure a chef won't be throwing a big nice fish out just because it has worms in it.

There's a BIG difference between you and a professional who sells fish to Japanese restaurants. You should actually study how Japanese buyers actually pick their fish to sell. They are almost unrealistically picky about their source and would actually pay 10x more for higher quality. It's very interesting stuff really and I'm not joking around.

Really! They can tell whether a fish will have worms or not just by looking at it??? That would totally amaze me.

All fish have parasites of some sort. Most do not have any affects on humans but roundworms do. But I wouldn't take that chance with a restaurant regardless if the chef's ethnicity was Japanese or not.


 

SnowyEnigma

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Originally posted by: freesia39
Originally posted by: SnowyEnigma
Damnit what am I going to eat for lunch then? I need to find something that's health, doesn't need to be cooked/microwaved and can last overnight. Any ideas?

um learn to make sandwiches?

i make my own california rolls and eat them the next day. but then the fish is cooked, so not as much of a problem.

you can pick up cucumber rolls or avocado rolls if you really need to eat sushi.

healthy/doesn't need to be cooked/overnight doesn't always go together. even salads that have the dressing mixed in don't last overnight.




Well my time allocation goes as such: 9pm off work take train get home around 9:30-10pm.
Go to bed at 10:15,
wake up at 6:30 for school,
arive at school around 7:30,
eat lunch at 11:30

So it would be friged from 10ish until 7:15ish then 7:45 to 11:30. What healthy food could last that?
 

ssvegeta1010

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He said hed have Grilled Salmon, so the raw part is out. And the stuff at Shaws, etc. is all run by a large central company, therefore, I would judge that the quality is pretty good (I have had the supermarket stuff myself multiple times). It has been frozen, and the rice isn't as good as fresh sushi from a sushi bar, but it is relatively high quality stuff.
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: SnowyEnigma
Originally posted by: freesia39
Originally posted by: SnowyEnigma
Damnit what am I going to eat for lunch then? I need to find something that's health, doesn't need to be cooked/microwaved and can last overnight. Any ideas?

um learn to make sandwiches?

i make my own california rolls and eat them the next day. but then the fish is cooked, so not as much of a problem.

you can pick up cucumber rolls or avocado rolls if you really need to eat sushi.

healthy/doesn't need to be cooked/overnight doesn't always go together. even salads that have the dressing mixed in don't last overnight.




Well my time allocation goes as such: 9pm off work take train get home around 9:30-10pm.
Go to bed at 10:15,
wake up at 6:30 for school,
arive at school around 7:30,
eat lunch at 11:30

So it would be friged from 10ish until 7:15ish then 7:45 to 11:30. What healthy food could last that?


fruits and veggies.
sandwiches
canned foods.
 

mooncancook

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I think there's always a risk of getting parasites into your body from eating raw fish, that's why I'm cutting down on sushi/sashimi consumption.
 

thirdlegstump

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Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.

I totally disagree. Fresh fish that seem healthy also almost always have worms or eggs. I've caught fish in the ocean and have seen worms in the guts and even in the flesh when the fish was filleted. Sometimes its impossible to see the eggs as well.

You can trust the chef, but I wouldn't. I'm sure a chef won't be throwing a big nice fish out just because it has worms in it.

There's a BIG difference between you and a professional who sells fish to Japanese restaurants. You should actually study how Japanese buyers actually pick their fish to sell. They are almost unrealistically picky about their source and would actually pay 10x more for higher quality. It's very interesting stuff really and I'm not joking around.

Really! They can tell whether a fish will have worms or not just by looking at it??? That would totally amaze me.

All fish have parasites of some sort. Most do not have any affects on humans but roundworms do. But I wouldn't take that chance with a restaurant regardless if the chef's ethnicity was Japanese or not.

Well it's a big ol mystery then isn't it? How it's just about unheard of in Japan of people getting parasites from eating sushi? :roll:
 

mooncancook

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Originally posted by: zoiks
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Sushi must be prepared and eaten within a few hours or else it's not considered fresh. It's not something even the Japanese eat everyday but it isn't unhealthy at all.

It CAN be unhealthy especially if the flesh contains tiny eggs of parasitic worms such as tapeworms or roundworms. Always cook your fish before consuming it or at the very least freeze it for a few days.
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..well that's only if you get sushi from some cheap Chinese restaurant or something who buy fish from infected waters or leave them in infected tanks with other unhealthy fish. Only buy sushi from a solid Japanese restaurant run by Japanese people no exceptions. Sure you'll pay more but sushi was never meant to be a cheap dish.

I totally disagree. Fresh fish that seem healthy also almost always have worms or eggs. I've caught fish in the ocean and have seen worms in the guts and even in the flesh when the fish was filleted. Sometimes its impossible to see the eggs as well.

You can trust the chef, but I wouldn't. I'm sure a chef won't be throwing a big nice fish out just because it has worms in it.

There's a BIG difference between you and a professional who sells fish to Japanese restaurants. You should actually study how Japanese buyers actually pick their fish to sell. They are almost unrealistically picky about their source and would actually pay 10x more for higher quality. It's very interesting stuff really and I'm not joking around.

Really! They can tell whether a fish will have worms or not just by looking at it??? That would totally amaze me.

All fish have parasites of some sort. Most do not have any affects on humans but roundworms do. But I wouldn't take that chance with a restaurant regardless if the chef's ethnicity was Japanese or not.

Well it's a big ol mystery then isn't it? How it's just about unheard of in Japan of people getting parasites from eating sushi? :roll:

People in 3rd world Asian countries are getting parasites from natural water and unsanitized foods everyday but do you hear about it everyday? There are lots ppl who get parasites from eating undercooked pork but how often do you hear about it. One of my friend did and get parasites from pork and he just took some medicine to kill them and he didn't make news about it. Oh and from what i know, raw fish is not a common daily meal for Jap ppl.

anyway you run a risk of getting parasites from eating raw fish. I don't study parasites so i'm not sure how many species are there. Some are probably more harmful than others. Sometimes you don't know you have parasites in your body even though they are there. I love sashimi but i know the more I eat the higher the risk i'll take, so i try not to eat too much.
 

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Firstly, you can't even begin to compare Japan with 3rd world asian countries. They are the most sanitation conscious people on earth by far. If you're thinking Japan is anything like China or Korea or Vietnam, you need to go on a trip around asian countries. You'll quickly realize how off-base your vision is. It's a country where even a mere traffic accident is reported on the news. Tainted food would be BIG news much like mad cow disease.
 

mooncancook

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Originally posted by: deathkoba
Firstly, you can't even begin to compare Japan with 3rd world asian countries. They are the most sanitation conscious people on earth by far. If you're thinking Japan is anything like China or Korea or Vietnam, you need to go on a trip around asian countries. You'll quickly realize how off-base your vision is. It's a country where even a mere traffic accident is reported on the news. Tainted food would be BIG news much like mad cow disease.

i think you miss my point, and yes I've been to both Japan and China, and I have friends from 3rd world Asian countries as well as Japan. Anyway, Japanese ppl can risk their life to eat puffer fish (whatever they call it) sashimi, so I don't think a little risk of parasite is a big deal.

I'm not saying all raw fish are unsafe. I'm just saying there is a risk. Fish can definately carry parasites. If handle properly (i.e. frozen for certain amount of time) the parasites can be killed. But the problem is I don't know where the fish come from and how they were handled so there's always a risk in it. I'll still eat them but just not as much, and only from reputable restaurants.