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Suse 9.1 and nforce 3 driver help!!
- Thread starter xtop
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Well, first use the latest versions drivers you can get
When you download a file in linux, or copy a file from a cd it's not automaticly executable. Generally Linux ignores tags like .exe or whatever when determining file types. If you want to execute a file you need to give it executable permissions.
Plus it would probably be better if you run it from a terminal, instead of runningn it from your gui file manager.
Open up a terminal, cd into were the file is located.
chmod +x filename
./filename
That will run the file as a executable.
when running a executable you use it's file name like a command. The computer then looks for the file, it uses a enviromental variable called $PATH to look for it. Alternatively you specify a path, like the ./ in ./filename (./ is shorthand for "this directory", ../ is shorthand for "parent directory"). To see your current $PATH variable you go:
echo $PATH
For any commands you want to use you can access a manual file. You see this buy going "man chmod".
Alternatively thru your gui you can right click the file, select preferences, and then add executable permissions for your user.
File permissions are Posix (or Unix) style. You have 3 sets of permissions: read/write/execute, for the three types of users (from a file's point of view): owner(user),group,other(world).
From a command line you go:
ls -l filename to see the permissions. For example:
~ >: ls -l /bin/ls
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 75948 Jul 16 06:37 /bin/ls
-rwxr-xr-x is the permissions. The owner is "root", and the group is also called "root" (although often the group isn't the same name as the user.).
The first - is for special properties, the second 3 characters are for user, the next 3 are for the group, the last 3 are for everybody else (people who do not belong to the group and are not the owner).
r=read
w=write
x=execute.
hope all that makes sense to you.
When you download a file in linux, or copy a file from a cd it's not automaticly executable. Generally Linux ignores tags like .exe or whatever when determining file types. If you want to execute a file you need to give it executable permissions.
Plus it would probably be better if you run it from a terminal, instead of runningn it from your gui file manager.
Open up a terminal, cd into were the file is located.
chmod +x filename
./filename
That will run the file as a executable.
when running a executable you use it's file name like a command. The computer then looks for the file, it uses a enviromental variable called $PATH to look for it. Alternatively you specify a path, like the ./ in ./filename (./ is shorthand for "this directory", ../ is shorthand for "parent directory"). To see your current $PATH variable you go:
echo $PATH
For any commands you want to use you can access a manual file. You see this buy going "man chmod".
Alternatively thru your gui you can right click the file, select preferences, and then add executable permissions for your user.
File permissions are Posix (or Unix) style. You have 3 sets of permissions: read/write/execute, for the three types of users (from a file's point of view): owner(user),group,other(world).
From a command line you go:
ls -l filename to see the permissions. For example:
~ >: ls -l /bin/ls
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 75948 Jul 16 06:37 /bin/ls
-rwxr-xr-x is the permissions. The owner is "root", and the group is also called "root" (although often the group isn't the same name as the user.).
The first - is for special properties, the second 3 characters are for user, the next 3 are for the group, the last 3 are for everybody else (people who do not belong to the group and are not the owner).
r=read
w=write
x=execute.
hope all that makes sense to you.
If you don't like chmod, then you can go thru the gui and right click the file to adjust the permissions. Just like Windows. 🙂
If you want to learn the ins and outs, check out my sig. But if you don't, don't worry about it. I always give to much information. (the stuff will begin to make more sense the more your around it. There are a lot of similarities between LInux and Windows, but there are a lot of differences, quite a bit different way of thinking is required sometimes)
If you want to learn the ins and outs, check out my sig. But if you don't, don't worry about it. I always give to much information. (the stuff will begin to make more sense the more your around it. There are a lot of similarities between LInux and Windows, but there are a lot of differences, quite a bit different way of thinking is required sometimes)
Originally posted by: drag
If you don't like chmod, then you can go thru the gui and right click the file to adjust the permissions. Just like Windows. 🙂
If you want to learn the ins and outs, check out my sig. But if you don't, don't worry about it. I always give to much information. (the stuff will begin to make more sense the more your around it. There are a lot of similarities between LInux and Windows, but there are a lot of differences, quite a bit different way of thinking is required sometimes)
see thats the thing, when i go to properties, it says its executable, but it still just sits there when i click on it
Originally posted by: xtop
Originally posted by: drag
If you don't like chmod, then you can go thru the gui and right click the file to adjust the permissions. Just like Windows. 🙂
If you want to learn the ins and outs, check out my sig. But if you don't, don't worry about it. I always give to much information. (the stuff will begin to make more sense the more your around it. There are a lot of similarities between LInux and Windows, but there are a lot of differences, quite a bit different way of thinking is required sometimes)
see thats the thing, when i go to properties, it says its executable, but it still just sits there when i click on it
Don't click on it, do it from a shell.
Originally posted by: xtop
oh, the chmod thing? because i didn't quite understand that 🙁
Run the file from a terminal. If you don't, you will probably miss the errors and whatnot.
You run a program from the command line.
Open up a X terminal. Called a xterm sometimes. Windows has a similar thing, called a CLI or command line interface. Also called dos, or a black dos box. Or something along those lines. In linux the command line is much more important, nvidia drivers generally have a what is called a ncurses dialog, which is a command line way of displaying options and stuff. So probably the only way to realy run it is from the command line... You'll see. It'll probably ask you to accept liscencing terms or something like that.
Just ignore all the stuff about chmod right now. I didn't mean to confuse you, I know how frustrating something like this can be, but it'll get easier once you start to get it.
Just follow Nvidia's directions
that'll do what you want it to do.
Then once your done with that, go read a newbie guide to linux, it'll answer a lot of questions. There are lots of them, here is one that will give a generic introduction to all the various Linux distros, and there are more specific ones for each distro, just use google. Lots of stuff.
It'll take a little bit to get used too, after all you've been using Windows for what? 5 years? 10 years? If it gets to frustrating, just forget about it for a while and come back later.
Open up a X terminal. Called a xterm sometimes. Windows has a similar thing, called a CLI or command line interface. Also called dos, or a black dos box. Or something along those lines. In linux the command line is much more important, nvidia drivers generally have a what is called a ncurses dialog, which is a command line way of displaying options and stuff. So probably the only way to realy run it is from the command line... You'll see. It'll probably ask you to accept liscencing terms or something like that.
Just ignore all the stuff about chmod right now. I didn't mean to confuse you, I know how frustrating something like this can be, but it'll get easier once you start to get it.
Just follow Nvidia's directions
STEP 1: Download the Driver File
Download - NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0283-pkg1.run
STEP 2: Begin Installation
From within a shell with root privileges, type "sh NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0283-pkg1.run" to initiate the installation.
STEP 3: Review the NVIDIA Software License. You will need to accept this license to continue with the installation.
STEP 4: Review the Known Problems for any special installation instructions required by your platform.
STEP 5: Install
Follow the directions provided by the installer. The installer will prepare the driver and install the driver and application files in the appropriate place.
Note: For systems running a kernel for which there is no pre-built binary driver, the installer will need to build the driver. In order for the installer to build the driver, the kernel source needs to be installed.
STEP 6: Review Documentation
Refer to the ReleaseNotes (HTML Version) file (installed in /usr/share/doc/nforce) for instructions on configuring the system with the installed drivers.
If you have any questions or problems, please check the linux discussion forum. If you don't find an answer to your question there, you can send email to linux-nforce-bugs@nvidia.com
that'll do what you want it to do.
Then once your done with that, go read a newbie guide to linux, it'll answer a lot of questions. There are lots of them, here is one that will give a generic introduction to all the various Linux distros, and there are more specific ones for each distro, just use google. Lots of stuff.
It'll take a little bit to get used too, after all you've been using Windows for what? 5 years? 10 years? If it gets to frustrating, just forget about it for a while and come back later.
Originally posted by: Tbirdkid
had the same prob with neo fsr.... i eventually rma'd it back to newegg as i wanted to get suse up on my box and i cant do without the net... sorry
so did you get a new board back that actually worked?
Check out neweg 90% of these will work with absolutely no need to download extra drivers.
Notice how cheap they are. I have a few of those Zonet 10/100 cards myself. These are so cheap because they use a generic realtek chip.
Definately nothing I'd like to use on a server, but they are PLENTY fast for home use. These are the absolutely cheapest POS cards you can find and they work fine with Linux.
In fact, Nvidia uses the exact same thing on on their motherboards. Your motherboard, in fact. Unless it's a gigabyte version. Nforce/Nforce2 boards. If they use gigabyte, it's probably just a slightly different realtek design. The difference for the nvidia is that they changed it very very slightly. Changed it enough so you need their drivers to work. For the short time I owned a nforce2 board, that's what they used.
Why? I don't know, probably to cut down costs they modified the design enough to fit into one of their northbridges, or whatever. Look for that little realtek crab.
Same thing with their sound card. Except that works with the default Linux drivers. What drivers? Why the Intel i8x0 sound card drivers, of course. That's the lauded "soundstorm" onboard audio sound chips. No less.
I have a similar chip in my el-cheapo Intel i830-based laptop (2.0ghz pentium4-m, btw) (it doesn't have digital out though). It's designed as a low cost, low power generic sound device for embedded platforms. Decent enough for low end work or so.
Nvidia probably bought the design from Intel and modified it a bit. But you listen to some people go on and on about the thing you'd think that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Nvidia has certainly become a major marketting power house, to be sure. Creative Audigy2 is crap, but OMG SoundStorm is a work of art.
Personally I always like to have a couple extra nic cards laying around. You don't know when they can come in handly. Like helping out fixing a freinds computer, or maybe building a firewall box out of a old PC, or simply getting a nforce motherboard to work. I got my Zonet at a local store, buy 2 get one free deal. Paid 12 bucks for 3 cards, all of them work fine.
Of course they are no substitute for a good quality 3com nic, but then again the nice 3com's cost 30 bucks. 😛
Now why your shell though that the .run file was a directory, I don't know. That's weird stuff. A "ls -l" command will provide more information into the status of the file.
If you have a nice network setup I'd just tell you to go:
If you have a 64bit OS go:
wget "http://download.nvidia.com/XFr...6_64-1.0-0283-pkg1.run"
sh NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0283-pkg1.run
if you have a 32bit OS go:
wget "http://download.nvidia.com/XFr...-x86-1.0-0283-pkg1.run"
sh NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0283-pkg1.run
That will more then likely do it.
Notice how cheap they are. I have a few of those Zonet 10/100 cards myself. These are so cheap because they use a generic realtek chip.
Definately nothing I'd like to use on a server, but they are PLENTY fast for home use. These are the absolutely cheapest POS cards you can find and they work fine with Linux.
In fact, Nvidia uses the exact same thing on on their motherboards. Your motherboard, in fact. Unless it's a gigabyte version. Nforce/Nforce2 boards. If they use gigabyte, it's probably just a slightly different realtek design. The difference for the nvidia is that they changed it very very slightly. Changed it enough so you need their drivers to work. For the short time I owned a nforce2 board, that's what they used.
Why? I don't know, probably to cut down costs they modified the design enough to fit into one of their northbridges, or whatever. Look for that little realtek crab.
Same thing with their sound card. Except that works with the default Linux drivers. What drivers? Why the Intel i8x0 sound card drivers, of course. That's the lauded "soundstorm" onboard audio sound chips. No less.
I have a similar chip in my el-cheapo Intel i830-based laptop (2.0ghz pentium4-m, btw) (it doesn't have digital out though). It's designed as a low cost, low power generic sound device for embedded platforms. Decent enough for low end work or so.
Nvidia probably bought the design from Intel and modified it a bit. But you listen to some people go on and on about the thing you'd think that it was the best thing since sliced bread. Nvidia has certainly become a major marketting power house, to be sure. Creative Audigy2 is crap, but OMG SoundStorm is a work of art.
Personally I always like to have a couple extra nic cards laying around. You don't know when they can come in handly. Like helping out fixing a freinds computer, or maybe building a firewall box out of a old PC, or simply getting a nforce motherboard to work. I got my Zonet at a local store, buy 2 get one free deal. Paid 12 bucks for 3 cards, all of them work fine.
Of course they are no substitute for a good quality 3com nic, but then again the nice 3com's cost 30 bucks. 😛
Now why your shell though that the .run file was a directory, I don't know. That's weird stuff. A "ls -l" command will provide more information into the status of the file.
If you have a nice network setup I'd just tell you to go:
If you have a 64bit OS go:
wget "http://download.nvidia.com/XFr...6_64-1.0-0283-pkg1.run"
sh NFORCE-Linux-x86_64-1.0-0283-pkg1.run
if you have a 32bit OS go:
wget "http://download.nvidia.com/XFr...-x86-1.0-0283-pkg1.run"
sh NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.0-0283-pkg1.run
That will more then likely do it.
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