Susan Rice is who we thought she was

[agent00f]

Copy and pasted from /r/the_donald no less. The place where you get banned if you use facts. We seriously shouldn't engage those trolls who wander over here from the_donald, they long ago proved an unwillingness to listen to facts and logic.

Worth reiterating the mathematical proximity of r/the_donald to various other degenerate subs: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dissecting-trumps-most-rabid-online-following/

Of particular interest is (the_donald - politics) chart topped by prizes like r/theredpill (misogyny) and r/coontown (self explanatory).

That's evidently the kind of people drawn to the GOP, as collaborated by every study on race resentment and such.

 

[agent00f]

For those that can't read. Gen. Hayden explains Unmasking. Good watch.

I'll sure she'll be in prison anytime now to share a cell with Clinton, or else chiropteran might have to move onto the next prescribed degeneracy.

 

[Zstream]

Bahahha! The apologists on this board .. so epic of a fail it's not even funny anymore. Take the socialist and communist and put them in Serbia.

 

[Zstream]

Pretty good example of the fake news that dumbshit degenerates love.

Once a tool, always a tool.

 

[Zstream]

What lie? Just because Rice asked that the names be unmasked for national security purposes doesn't mean she leaked them. What the Hell good is a wiretap on Russian officials if even the National Security Adviser can't know who they talked with?

You have no evidence of ANY national security risk and either does anyone in congress. Just shut up already.

 

[brycejones]

Bahahha! The apologists on this board .. so epic of a fail it's not even funny anymore. Take the socialist and communist and put them in Serbia.

And a teatard appears.......

 

[Zstream]

What's the big deal about identifying the people involved in innocent conversations with Russian intelligence officials, anyway? If they're as innocent as the Trump Admin claims they could make them public & settle the whole thing, obviously. If it was me, I'd want to clear my name, not go on with accusation & innuendo about who leaked what when.

Can't believe I'm even responding this this drivel, stupidity, retardation of the American rule of law. Are you really this partisan? Don't even act like your opinion is even near NBC levels. You're full blown dumbass.

 

[Zstream]

And a teatard appears.......

Don't you have have a festival of snowflakes to attend to or are you busy wearing tight jeans and making coffee for a living?

 

[brycejones]

Don't you have have a festival of snowflakes to attend to or are you busy wearing tight jeans and making coffee for a living?

Sheesh enough with the projection already.....

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I just don't even get this mindset. You think Trump is evil scum degenerate. Okay, sure. But what exactly is his evil plan behind giving people EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT?

I mean, if he was going to start skinning puppies alive or something I could understand the hate. But if his super dooper evil master plan is to just give the american people what they actually want, then what exactly is the big fear? You afraid that more jobs is going to ruin the world? Replacing obamacare with something less broken is a bad thing? Funding NASA makes Trump an evil villain?

Which policy of his, exactly, makes him so terrible?

Wow, here I thought this thread was done around page 14. Certainly degenerated since then. This post did catch my eye. Assuming it's not an intentional bait (which is possible!) I'd just like to point out that generally speaking, each 'side of the isle' (which may include moderates in between) tend to see actions differently, so while, for instance, Conservatives/Republican leaning folks might see the reopening of the XL pipeline construction to be 'creating jobs', Liberals/Democrats would tend toward seeing that as sacrificing the environment for corporate profits. A given action may *seem* evil to one side, and 'for america' as another.

There's tons of details to fight over in between, but if you were genuinely asking why some people revile Trump and his decisions so much, that's the reason. Flip the switch the other direction for Obama, or whoever the token Democratic president happens to be in <insert election cycle>.

 

[fskimospy]

I love this shit, how there needs to be an investigation of Rice or how literally anyone believes a single accusation Trump has made. Are you guys all really this dense? No investigation is needed because Trump already controls all the information about this. If Rice did something improper Trump has the ability to release any and all information related to it.

It's exactly the same thing as with his original bullshit claim that Obama wiretapped him. If such a thing is true he could release documents to prove it today. The fact that he has not tells us everything we need to know: this is yet another lie.

I am consistently amazed at just how easy it is to dupe conservatives.

 

[Thebobo]

According to her? She is already caught on the record LYING about it. You can't use her words to prove anything, she is a proven liar.

So is Trump, bigly.

 

[fskimospy]

You have no evidence of ANY national security risk and either does anyone in congress. Just shut up already.

Since she requested the unmasking she had to give a reason to the agency that controlled the information and that should be on record somewhere. If she asked and had it approved for a non-security reason then all Trump has to do is release that request and she's cooked.

I wonder why he hasn't done that? (I don't wonder why he hasn't done that. It's because it's a lie and you fell for it.)

 

[thraashman]

Can you get an exact quote/link? This is sort of interesting.

I do warn you though, don't try to read this thread (or anything else on this subreddit), you just walk away feeling so much dumber

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Since she requested the unmasking she had to give a reason to the agency that controlled the information and that should be on record somewhere. If she asked and had it approved for a non-security reason then all Trump has to do is release that request and she's cooked.

I wonder why he hasn't done that? (I don't wonder why he hasn't done that. It's because it's a lie and you fell for it.)

Just curious, do we know if the president has access to the request information? Or is it separated from him for abuse-of-power reasons? I would assume he would have access to it..

 

[bshole]

Just curious, do we know if the president has access to the request information? Or is it separated from him for abuse-of-power reasons? I would assume he would have access to it..

If the president doesn't have access to it, we have lost control of our government. If somebody attempts to withhold the information when the president requests it, they could go to federal prison for a long time. It really doesn't matter anyways, Trump gets his information from Breitbart news and the like, not his own intelligence agencies. These conspiracy sites should be dragged in and forced to divulge where they are getting their information. Make them admit openly that they made it up out of whole cloth. Perhaps if Trump sees his "sources" admitting they are full of shit, it could make a difference.

 

[fskimospy]

Just curious, do we know if the president has access to the request information? Or is it separated from him for abuse-of-power reasons? I would assume he would have access to it..

The president absolutely has access to the requests the national security adviser makes of intelligence agencies.

 

[Meghan54]

Can't believe I'm even responding this this drivel, stupidity, retardation of the American rule of law. Are you really this partisan? Don't even act like your opinion is even near NBC levels. You're full blown dumbass.

Then, dumbass, why are you even bothering to post here? Oh yeah, you have to to get paid...we get it. Your turn on the troll circuit.

 

[fskimospy]

If the president doesn't have access to it, we have lost control of our government. If somebody attempts to withhold the information when the president requests it, they could go to federal prison for a long time. It really doesn't matter anyways, Trump gets his information from Breitbart news and the like, not his own intelligence agencies.

Not true, federal agencies absolutely have procedures in place to limit access to some information to the president for abuse of power reasons. (Thanks, Nixon!)

None of that applies here though. Trump could declassify all FISA warrants and FISA intercepts that he believes are relevant to his accusations. He could also declassify all unmasking requests made by Susan Rice. He will not do any of these things though because he is lying.

 

[brycejones]

Then, dumbass, why are you even bothering to post here? Oh yeah, you have to to get paid...we get it. Your turn on the troll circuit.

Zstream is just looking for a way out of his job at the coffee shop where he has to wear tight jeans.

 

[emperus]

Just curious, do we know if the president has access to the request information? Or is it separated from him for abuse-of-power reasons? I would assume he would have access to it..

Jesus. I posted a video that explains the whole thing. Why don't you, you know... do some research... before formulating an opinion or coming on here and regurgitating ur fox given propaganda.

Here is the video again. Watch it and you'll understand how silly most of the stuff you've posted is.

Here are the highlights
1.) The IC(intelllegence community) provides daily reports with snippets of the most important intelligence from FISA approved wiretaps that they believe effect national security. So all these names that can be unmasked are in these reports. These reports are provided to other people besides RIce. Unlike what people think Rice didn't just troll a database looking for names. And think about the nature of the conversation that the IC felt it had to be included in a daily report given to the NSA from all the FISA warrants that they may have and surveillance that they do.
2.) In those daily reports that are given to the NSA (Susan RIce in this case) and others, American citizens that the people who have FISA warrants on them are either talking to or are talked about are masked.
3.) If the NSA or anyone else who is permitted feels they need to know the name of the masked individual, they have to make a request to an unmasking Trubinal/panel which consists among other people an attorney and an unmasking specialist, who looks at the reason why the unmasking is requested and approves or rejects it. They do at times reject it.
4.) Once the name is unmasked, it is unmasked and given only to the person who requested it. It is not broadly unmasked.
5.) It is relatively easy to find out who was unmasked, how many times Rice unmasked people, and for what reasons. Hayden believes it would take 5 or 6 people going to Langley(I believe) one morning to do this. So it begs the question, why hasn't this been done and if it has why hasn't the Trump admin produced it?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Jesus. I posted a video that explains the whole thing. Why don't you, you know... do some research... before formulating an opinion or coming on here and regurgitating ur fox given propaganda.

Here is the video again. Watch it and you'll understand how silly most of the stuff you've posted is.

Here are the highlights
1.) The IC(intelllegence community) provides daily reports with snippets of the most important intelligence from FISA approved wiretaps that they believe effect national security. So all these names that can be unmasked are in these reports. These reports are provided to other people besides RIce. Unlike what people think Rice didn't just troll a database looking for names.
2.) In those daily reports that are given to the NSA (Susan RIce in this case) and others, American citizens that the people who have FISA warrants on them are either talking to or are talked about are masked.
3.) If the NSA or anyone else who is permitted feels they need to know the name of the masked individual, they have to make a request to an unmasking Trubinal/panel which consists among other people an attorney and an unmasking specialist, who looks at the reason why the unmasking is requested and approves or rejects it. They do at times reject it.
4.) Once the name is unmasked, it is unmasked and given only to the person who requested it. It is not broadly unmasked.
5.) It is relatively easy to find out who was unmasked, how many times Rice unmasked people, and for what reasons. Hayden believes it would take 5 or 6 people going to Langley(I believe) one morning to do this.

Christ man, I asked a question. I don't watch fox, nor did I post an opinion on the matter, in fact I stated that I assumed he would have access to it. Back down.

 

[emperus]

Christ man, I asked a question. I don't watch fox, nor did I post an opinion on the matter, in fact I stated that I assumed he would have access to it. Back down.

I might have gotten you confused with someone else. But, this thread has grown to many pages of fact free drivel.. It's frustrating people eating this ish up.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Christ man, I asked a question. I don't watch fox, nor did I post an opinion on the matter, in fact I stated that I assumed he would have access to it. Back down.

Anyway, yes Trump has access which makes him look like a damn fool at best. If a FISA court had turned down a request from Obama or any other party there would be a record. So where is it?

 

[Jhhnn]

Anyway, yes Trump has access which makes him look like a damn fool at best. If a FISA court had turned down a request from Obama or any other party there would be a record. So where is it?

Trumpsters have been so well conditioned to follow the bouncing ball of conspiracy theory that they do so automatically. It's Pavlovian.