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Survey: Online trolls are 'everyday sadists'

MotionMan

Lifer
(I searched and was shocked that this was not already posted.)

Maybe it is just me, but, DUH!!!

Survey: Online trolls are 'everyday sadists'

CNN) -- If you've ever complained that the trolls junking up online comment sections are a bunch of sadistic psychopaths, you might be onto something.

An online survey by a group of Canadian researchers suggests that Internet trolls are more likely than others to show signs of sadism, psychopathy and "Machiavellianism": a disregard for morality and tendency to manipulate or exploit others.

"It was sadism, however, that had the most robust associations with trolling of any of the personality measures," says an article by psychologists from the University of Manitoba, University of Winnipeg and University of British Columbia. "In fact, the associations between sadism and ... scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists."
Sadism is a tendency to take pleasure in other people's pain or discomfort.
The article was published last week in the journal Personality and Individual Differences.

As defined in the article, online trolling is "the practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet with no apparent instrumental purpose."

So, as opposed to cyberbullying, saying nasty things during an argument over politics or even making hateful comments that reflect the commenter's true feelings, trolls are offensive for the sheer enjoyment of it. Or, in Internet parlance, "for the lulz."

"Trolls operate as agents of chaos on the Internet, exploiting 'hot-button issues' to make users appear overly emotional or foolish in some manner," the article reads. "If an unfortunate person falls into their trap, trolling intensifies for further, merciless amusement. This is why novice Internet users are routinely admonished, 'Do not feed the trolls!'."

Survey respondents were asked about their Internet behavior, including how much time they spend online and whether they comment in places like YouTube or on news websites. They also were given tests that measured responses against psychology's ominously named "Dark Tetrad": narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy and sadistic personality.

Commenters who said they enjoy trolling other users more than other options (which included debating topics and making new friends) consistently scored higher on the "tetrad" and displayed a tendency to enjoy trolling because it is pleasurable, the authors wrote.

The questions asked to determine sadistic tendencies included ''I enjoy physically hurting people," "I enjoy making jokes at the expense of others" and "I enjoy playing the villain in games and torturing other characters."

To be clear, the article is not based on a random sampling of respondents.
For their final study, researchers gave their questionnaire to 188 Canadian psychology students who got extra course credit for completing the surveys and 609 United States residents who use a website that lets people fill out surveys for a small amount of money. Those respondents were paid 50 cents for filling out the questionnaire.

But it speaks to a growing concern about behavior that has existed, certainly, since the dawn of the Internet and in other forms for much, much longer.
Sites like YouTube and the Huffington Post have banned anonymous comments, requiring users to create an account that identifies them by name, while others have taken different tacks to try to moderate comment sections.

"These findings provide a preliminary glimpse into the mechanism by which sadism fosters trolling behavior," the article says. "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground."

MotionMan
 
"researchers gave their questionnaire to 188 Canadian psychology students"

There's your problem. Psych majors are a bunch of loons who've flocked to Canada because it feels like home.
 
This was a topic in P&N a month or two ago. It survied a ton of dif people and asked them if they were sadists, masochists, etc etc and then ever asked them if they had trolled online. A staggering number of them said they were sadists and almost as many were masochists as well.
 
"researchers gave their questionnaire to 188 Canadian psychology students"

There's your problem. Psych majors are a bunch of loons who've flocked to Canada because it feels like home.

Ironically, my undergrad degree is in Psychology (though, not in Canada).

I took part in many surveys and experiments. They were required for all Psych majors.

MotionMan
 
You can get an undergraduate degree in Canada? Do you have to take classes in leaf recognition and maple syrup refining?

Whether you are being serious (I hope not) or trying to be funny:

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MotionMan
 
Well no shit. I've always thought true trolls have an antisocial disorder (shit, looks like they fit most of the DSM criteria), but I guess sadist works too.
 
Biggest member call out ever......ban.

I am sure many of us thought of one member in particular when reading the title.

The question is how subtlety in the trolling factors in to this. I would think the blunt obvious ones are less intelligent, where the subtle trolls weave a tapestry and convoluted persona with their more complex intelligence.
 
They indicated sadism was the most complete match, but I'd argue psychopathy is next in line -- particularly for those that have a thing for cyber bullying. There have been a number of cases of distressed people on Twitter or Facebook that the trolls hounded to the point that they killed themselves. I'd mentioned this in another thread, but to me its the perfect crime for those inclined towards serial killing. Perfect because you get to drive somebody to kill themselves, you have very little chance of going to jail for it, and you don't have to dispose of the body. There will be more of this...


Brianb
 
I am sure many of us thought of one member in particular when reading the title.

The question is how subtlety in the trolling factors in to this. I would think the blunt obvious ones are less intelligent, where the subtle trolls weave a tapestry and convoluted persona with their more complex intelligence.

I can think of 5 people in P&N that I immediately thought of!
 
I am sure many of us thought of one member in particular when reading the title.

The question is how subtlety in the trolling factors in to this. I would think the blunt obvious ones are less intelligent, where the subtle trolls weave a tapestry and convoluted persona with their more complex intelligence.

Agreed, but it's not necessarily that simple.
As defined in the article, online trolling is "the practice of behaving in a deceptive, destructive, or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet with no apparent instrumental purpose."
There's a large gray patch between trolling and satire, mocking a fool, playing the devil's advocate, etc.

What do you call it when someone exposes fatal flaws in an idea while also destroying the idiot that posted it?
 
I can think of 5 people in P&N that I immediately thought of!

There are probably very few boards that don't have there share of dangerous trolls. The internet and its many windows is a perfect magnet for those with an antisocial bent as they can do as they wish without fear of being identified or stopped.

What would be interesting is if some of the smart hacker types that call themselves Anonymous would track down some of them and publicly expose them. There was a guy on redit I think that posted some really vile stuff including, as I recall, raping children and the like, he was eventually exposed and turned out to be a married man with kids. He apologized but when asked why he did it he said something like "I just wanted to get a rise out of people."

It just goes to show you how many truly sick people there are...


Brian
 
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