Survey: One Third Of Physicians Want To Leave Medicine If O'Care Passes

Danube

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There should be no surprise about this. I am sure some in Obamaville even see this void as a chance to do some affirmative actioneering (there were grants for minority MD's in house bill). I've read there are some Cuban MD's who can't practice here (now) working as janitors and orderlies in US hospitals.


"Physician Survey: Health Reform May Lead to Significant Reduction in Physician Workforce"

"The Medicus Firm, a national physician search firm based in Dallas and Atlanta, conducted a survey of over 1,000 physicians to determine their expectations as to the impact of health reform on their practices, income, job satisfaction, and future career plans. In discussing career plans as part of the recruitment process, physicians have increasingly expressed apprehension and uncertainty regarding health reform’s impact on their practices, and The Medicus Firm wished to investigate this trend further. Additionally, the firm wanted to determine how doctors anticipate health reform to affect physician supply and the quality of medical care nationwide, as these are issues that will directly influence the physician recruiting industry. These factors are in addition to health reform’s more obvious impact on patients and providers of health care services. A total of 1,195 physicians from various specialties and career levels in locations nationally completed the survey.

The results from the survey, entitled “Physician Survey: Health Reform’s Impact on Physician Supply and Quality of Medical Care,” were intriguing, particularly in light of the most recently published career projections from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). The BLS predicts a more than a 22 percent increase in physician jobs during the ten-year period ending in 2018. This places physician careers in the top 20 fastest-growing occupations from 2008 to 2018. Meanwhile, nearly one-third of physicians responding to the survey indicated that they will want to leave medical practice after health reform is implemented.

“What many people may not realize is that health reform could impact physician supply in such a way that the quality of health care could suffer,” said Steve Marsh, managing partner at The Medicus Firm in Dallas. “The reality is that there may not be enough doctors to provide quality medical care to the millions of newly insured patients.”




http://www.nejmjobs.org/rpt/health-reform-may-reduce-physician-workforce.aspx
 

jpeyton

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Leave medicine and what? Work at McDonalds?

Kind of like all those rich people who trade in their highly-taxed six-figure salaries so they can live on welfare.
 

Zebo

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Leave medicine and what? Work at McDonalds?

Kind of like all those rich people who trade in their highly-taxed six-figure salaries so they can live on welfare.

That's all that needs to be said. I've heard this BS about welfare too. "Why strive if I can just go live in section 8" to which I retort why don't U then if they have it so good.
 

jhu

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I think people are going about the health care debate the wrong way. If we genetically engineer out diseases from the beginning, we wouldn't have to spend so much later in life. "But no, we can't do that because that's eugenics!" is what some people will say. Well, a pox on them I say!
 

sandorski

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I think people are going about the health care debate the wrong way. If we genetically engineer out diseases from the beginning, we wouldn't have to spend so much later in life. "But no, we can't do that because that's eugenics!" is what some people will say. Well, a pox on them I say!

That's not Eugenics. It's controversial for other reasons and isn't quite doable yet anyway though. Eventually we'll have the Knowledge to accomplish it to some degree.
 

Zebo

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I've read there are some Cuban MD's who can't practice here (now) working as janitors and orderlies in US hospitals.

What's up with this part? Do we not allow foreign Doctors to practice? Wouldn't surprise me. I've heard Medical schools haven't opened and slots are kept low to pad their salaries. Like any good union - keep competitiveness out.
 

Zebo

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I've read there are some Cuban MD's who can't practice here (now) working as janitors and orderlies in US hospitals.

What's up with this part? Do we not allow foreign Doctors to practice? Wouldn't surprise me. I've heard Medical schools haven't opened and slots are kept low to pad their salaries. Like any good union - keep competitiveness out.
 

jhu

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What's up with this part? Do we not allow foreign Doctors to practice? Wouldn't surprise me. I've heard Medical schools haven't opened and slots are kept low to pad their salaries. Like any good union - keep competitiveness out.

They still have to jump through the same hoops that the rest of us do: passing Step 1-3 + finish a residency.
 

DaveSimmons

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The survey question was probably something like:

"If Obama makes you work 80 hours a week for $10 an hour, and he takes away your gun and fishing pole, would you want to give up practicing medicine and work for big pharma instead?"
 

Zorkorist

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They are trying to pass a Spanish version, just for this reason.

They are having a hard time coming up with the question.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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Anyone know where we can find the actual survey? I found last years one here

http://www.themedicusfirm.com/files/TMF_2009_Compensation_Survey_Full.pdf

The only thing I found interesting after giving it a quick read was only 1.7% of doctors reported that malpractice premiums limit their income the most. With everything we hear about it I would expect that to be higher.
Somewhere upwards of 40% said that they were worried about being reinbursed. That's what they get for dealing with Insurance Companies/Governemt.

-John
 

her209

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How about a baseline (control)? Why not give out a separate survey that asks: If nothing is done about health care/insurance coverage, will you leave your profession by 2018?
 

Zorkorist

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Right. One half of Doctor's surveyed should have been given a placebo.

-John {Peter Griffin}
 

Patranus

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That's all that needs to be said. I've heard this BS about welfare too. "Why strive if I can just go live in section 8" to which I retort why don't U then if they have it so good.

Well lets see...
What percentage of Doctors do you think are near the retirement age?
What percentage of Doctors do you think have such incomes that would allow them to make such a move?

My *guess* would be that both questions the answer would be quite high.
 

StageLeft

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Meanwhile, nearly one-third of physicians responding to the survey indicated that they will want to leave medical practice after health reform is implemented.]

Will want, or will do? Anyway, this is another example of people not being honest with themselves. I guaran-fvcking-tee you that 1/3rd will not leave because of O'care, if it passes, and you can remember I said it.
 

Double Trouble

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No, 1/3 will not just up and quit and go work at McD's.... however, keep in mind that older doctors can simply choose to retire, new potential doctors can instead choose a new field of study (after all, these are some very smart folks, I'm sure they can change directions and study something else).

This is a big warning sign. Lost in all this discussion of who pays for healthcare and how to insure the uninsured is the discussion of how to make sure there are enough doctors to actually provide service to everyone. There is *currently* a shortage of general practitioners. If we don't manage to quickly increase the supply, adding millions of new patients is going to destroy the system.
 

Orignal Earl

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Rinse and Repeat

The AMA, together with Saskatchewan's College of Physicians and Surgeons, warned that if the CCF won, doctors would leave the province in droves. But here was the kicker: As Dave Margoshes writes in his 1999 biography of Douglas, the campaign told voters that if the state were permitted to take over health care, "patients with hard-to-diagnose problems would be shipped off to insane asylums by bungling bureaucrats."

http://www.slate.com/id/2245037/pagenum/all/#p2
 

boomerang

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No, 1/3 will not just up and quit and go work at McD's.... however, keep in mind that older doctors can simply choose to retire, new potential doctors can instead choose a new field of study (after all, these are some very smart folks, I'm sure they can change directions and study something else).

This is a big warning sign. Lost in all this discussion of who pays for healthcare and how to insure the uninsured is the discussion of how to make sure there are enough doctors to actually provide service to everyone. There is *currently* a shortage of general practitioners. If we don't manage to quickly increase the supply, adding millions of new patients is going to destroy the system.
There's little room for common sense statements about a lack of physicians in regards to this health care bill. There's a crisis at hand!!!

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