Survey: Four in 10 Tea Party members are Dems or independents

[Patranus]

Four in 10 Tea Party members are either Democrats or Independents, according to a new national survey.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/90541-survey-four-in-10-tea-party-members-dem-or-indie

Obummer.

 

[Schadenfroh]

So, four in ten claim they are independents?

 

[Patranus]

So, four in ten claim they are independents?

Have to win the independent vote to win any election

The national breakdown of the Tea Party composition is 57 percent Republican, 28 percent Independent and 13 percent Democratic

 

[Lemon law]

First of all, the poll was conducted by an admittedly pro-GOP organization, and thus is likely to build in a big bias.

But the last paragraph is fairly instructive, " Tea Party members are more likely to be male, slightly older and middle income. Almost half the members of the group reported getting their news about national issues from Fox News, 10 percent of respondents said that talk radio is one of their top two sources, which is seven-points higher than average voter."

In short, anyone who relies on fox news or talk radio is extremely likely to have a totally distorted view of reality.

 

[Patranus]

But the last paragraph is fairly instructive, " Tea Party members are more likely to be male, slightly older and middle income. Almost half the members of the group reported getting their news about national issues from Fox News, 10 percent of respondents said that talk radio is one of their top two sources, which is seven-points higher than average voter."

In short, anyone who relies on fox news or talk radio is extremely likely to have a totally distorted view of reality.

All of which has nothing to do with the implications of the poll.

The poll shows that the Tea Party is hardly the conservative fringe groups that the LMSM claims it is.

 

[Ozoned]

First of all, the poll was conducted by an admittedly pro-GOP organization, and thus is likely to build in a big bias.

But the last paragraph is fairly instructive, " Tea Party members are more likely to be male, slightly older and middle income. Almost half the members of the group reported getting their news about national issues from Fox News, 10 percent of respondents said that talk radio is one of their top two sources, which is seven-points higher than average voter."

In short, anyone who relies on fox news or talk radio is extremely likely to have a totally distorted view of reality.

Really? Can you give an example of a storyline that resulted in this view?

 

[PJABBER]

Nothing really news there, except to those who limit their information to that which comes from the lefty propagandists like MSNBC, DailyKos, DU and HP.

 

[umbrella39]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/90541-survey-four-in-10-tea-party-members-dem-or-indie

Obummer.

/zzz Wake up.

 

[Jhhnn]

All of which has nothing to do with the implications of the poll.

The poll shows that the Tea Party is hardly the conservative fringe groups that the LMSM claims it is.

More hyperbole. 17% of the respondents identified with the Tea Party. Of those, 13% identified themselves as Dems, or 2.2% *of the total surveyed*. 4.76% *of the total surveyed* identified themselves as independents, the rest of the 17% as repubs.

This is from a firm noticeably biased, as has been pointed out...

!7% of voters believe in lies? Not surprising, given that they and more undoubtedly voted for GWB.... Not fringe? Coming from somebody who obviously *is* fringe, the notion is laughable...

 

[Robor]

Oh joy, another PaTrollUs thread.

 

[umbrella39]

All of which has nothing to do with the implications of the poll.

The poll shows that the Tea Party is hardly the conservative fringe groups that the LMSM claims it is.

Yeah, sure it does! The desperation of the tea-bag movement is palpable, though I have to admit it's rather amusing to watch folks trying to spin the truth about their members and their agenda.

I hope you and those like you continue with the insanity of doing and saying the same things that got you where you are in the first place while expecting the outcome to be any different. It will continue to relegate you and those like you to the sidelines where you belong while the grown folks continue to clean up the mess you left.

 

[shira]

And the polling took place between December and February, well before the final health care legislation was finally passed, thus making the poll results even more meaningful.

 

[Lemon law]

Ozoned asks, "Really? Can you give an example of a storyline that resulted in this view? "

Not per say, but I can almost certainly correlate many tea bad slogans to over simplistic slogan based thinking.

Take just some of the tea bag unifying mantra's that reducing government will increase employment. To properly evaluate that statement would require some education in economic theory, history, and a review of the past predictions of both right wing, centrist, and left wing writers and politicians.

In short, what tea baggers lack is an open mind and the ability to do critical thinking.

The other situation is that the typical American voter has never been critical thinkers, there is always the appeal for a Joe McCarthy, a George Wallace, a Pat Buchanan, a H. Ross Perot, a Ron or Rand Paul, a Palin, to name just a few of our fringe politicians. And as the total GOP now votes lock step, and bi-partisan ship is MIA, why should not many disappointed voters find a new home with tea baggers. Some will stay tea baggers and other will become disillusioned, and defect to some other movement that claims to offer simple solutions to complex problems.

 

[boomerang]

Ozoned asks, "Really? Can you give an example of a storyline that resulted in this view? "

Not per say, but I can almost certainly correlate many tea bad slogans to over simplistic slogan based thinking.

Take just some of the tea bag unifying mantra's that reducing government will increase employment. To properly evaluate that statement would require some education in economic theory, history, and a review of the past predictions of both right wing, centrist, and left wing writers and politicians.

In short, what tea baggers lack is an open mind and the ability to do critical thinking.

The other situation is that the typical American voter has never been critical thinkers, there is always the appeal for a Joe McCarthy, a George Wallace, a Pat Buchanan, a H. Ross Perot, a Ron or Rand Paul, a Palin, to name just a few of our fringe politicians. And as the total GOP now votes lock step, and bi-partisan ship is MIA, why should not many disappointed voters find a new home with tea baggers. Some will stay tea baggers and other will become disillusioned, and defect to some other movement that claims to offer simple solutions to complex problems.

I always thought eskimospy was a pompous ass. You're cut from the same cloth. Maybe from the beginning of the bolt.

Another leftie telling everyone how smart he is. Do you look in the mirror while you type to enhance the feelings of awesomeness?


Call out of member not even posting in this thread. One week off.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[First]

In other words 90% are hard-core conservatives or conservative-leaning, and they represent 1/5th of 1% of the voting public.

OK. This surprises no one.

 

[Lemon law]

Thank you thank you for calling me a pompous ass, but I do read past history, both US and world, if nothing else Hoover believed the solution to the great depression was that same cut government spending. Guess what, Hoover managed to increase unemployment from an initial 10% all the way up 25% in very short order.

And here we are some 80 years later, and a President Obama inherited an even worse mess before he was inaugurated, and Obama kept unemployment from exceeding 10%.

What is in your wallet Boomerang, who has proved smarter, Obama, Hoover, or teabaggers? Shall we believe its Palin and teabaggers just because they have better slogans?

 

[Anarchist420]

Hoover increased government spending and hiked the top marginal income tax rate from 25% to 63%.

 

[OrByte]

This doesn't line up with the ultra conservative politicians that the teabaggers support.

It would make more sense if the teabaggers candidates were more moderate

But we all know that isn't the case

OP bought this lie hook line and sinker

 

[Patranus]

In other words 90% are hard-core conservatives or conservative-leaning, and they represent 1/5th of 1% of the voting public.

OK. This surprises no one.

Yup. Sure likes like 1/5 of 1%.....

In any event, the "progressives" can keep trying to marginalize main stream America and you will see the result.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/90541-survey-four-in-10-tea-party-members-dem-or-indie

Obummer.

I find it totally ironic (well, not really, you are a troll) that while you totally believe that this poll is accurate, my thread here, which showed that basically 30% of republicans are divorced from reality, you dismissed totally.

I believe your quote from that thread was this:

Lets see, John Avlon (the author of the article) has written a new book titled " Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America".

I am sure his intentions are 100% objective

and this

To each political group, these questions at face value simply mean different things. Unless Harris asked what these questions mean to each person or more clearly defined them, the data is essentially meaningless for a lot of the questions.

So just what is it about your poll that makes it so factually correct, while the poll I posted (along with 3-4 other polls that all had similar results) is totally inaccurate and meaningless?

 

[Infohawk]

From what I've seen, the teabaggers don't necessarily have a coherent message. Probably because they are stupid and don't think coherently. So it doesn't surprise me that they would have Dems and Independents as there are a lot of stupid Dems and Indpendents.

Right now they are really just a group of complainers...

 

[Ozoned]

From what I've seen, the teabaggers don't necessarily have a coherent message. Probably because they are stupid and don't think coherently. So it doesn't surprise me that they would have Dems and Independents as there are a lot of stupid Dems and Indpendents.

Right now they are really just a group of complainers...

Where exactly did you run into a group of teabaggers?

 

[Lemon law]

I don't think Petranus is on base here, there has been a gradual rightward drift of America for the past 60 years. In today's term, Kennedy would be regarded as a extreme liberal and even Nixon would be regarded as a Liberal. And someone like Clinton was well to the right of Nixon.

The point is and remains, it was the GWB policies and the dismantlement of common sense reforms put in place during the past 100 years that was largely responsible for collapsing the American economy.

Obama is hardly a liberal, yet the GOP mindlessly resists returning to previous conventional wisdom, policies of the past that did lead to previous American prosperity.

Maybe some will stereotype Obama as only advocating a total reform of previous health care policy, but still, that is just a tiny fraction of the things that need doing.

Life is all about adapting to changing conditions, America has always managed it in the past, but seems stuck on stupid now.

 

[Tom]

8 out of ten are male or female.

 

[Patranus]

In today's term, Kennedy would be regarded as a extreme liberal and even Nixon would be regarded as a Liberal. And someone like Clinton was well to the right of Nixon.

Are you high?

Kennedy is most definitely a "blue dog" democrat.
Kennedy's tax cut ring a bell?
How about his hard line stand against the Soviet Union?