Surfer Dude may be next Einstein!

StormRider

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Pretty cool stuff!

Surfer Einstein

This is actually one of my fantasies. I'm basically a failed mathematician/engineer/computer-scientist/PhD guy and I would love it if I could come up with some simple and brilliant idea and publish a scientific paper about it!
 

Mojoed

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Except that this guy is a physicist, has a PhD, and this article is reported by Fox news.

Well this could be huge.

By mapping known subatomic particles, plus 20 imaginary ones, onto the 248 points of the E8 lattice, and then rotating the lattice in a computer model, Lisi shows how the particles elegantly combine to form three of the four forces.

The imaginary ones combine to form gravity, for which subatomic particles have only been theorized.

I'd love to see a graphical representation/CGI of this to better understand what's going on here.
 

Fritzo

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God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"
 

cjchaps

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Originally posted by: Mojoed
Originally posted by: LoKe
Except that this guy is a physicist, has a PhD, and this article is reported by Fox news.

Well this could be huge.

By mapping known subatomic particles, plus 20 imaginary ones, onto the 248 points of the E8 lattice, and then rotating the lattice in a computer model, Lisi shows how the particles elegantly combine to form three of the four forces.

The imaginary ones combine to form gravity, for which subatomic particles have only been theorized.

I'd love to see a graphical representation/CGI of this to better understand what's going on here.

There is an animation sequence in the article :confused:
 

glutenberg

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

Would you prefer, "Eureka?"
 

Mojoed

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Originally posted by: cjchaps
Originally posted by: Mojoed
Originally posted by: LoKe
Except that this guy is a physicist, has a PhD, and this article is reported by Fox news.

Well this could be huge.

By mapping known subatomic particles, plus 20 imaginary ones, onto the 248 points of the E8 lattice, and then rotating the lattice in a computer model, Lisi shows how the particles elegantly combine to form three of the four forces.

The imaginary ones combine to form gravity, for which subatomic particles have only been theorized.

I'd love to see a graphical representation/CGI of this to better understand what's going on here.

There is an animation sequence in the article :confused:

Mae culpa. That slipped right past me, thanks! :beer:
 

Fritzo

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Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Fritzo
God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

Would you prefer, "Eureka?"

Yes, I would. I think every scientist should practice what they're going to say when they find something new...that way we avoid embarrasing mistakes like the one above.
 

Dacalo

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

Would you have preferred, "Holy mother fvcker ding dong alalalalal balla bing bong donkey gonads?"
 

ElFenix

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march 22, 2007:
The calculation does not have any obvious practical applications, but could help advance theoretical physics and geometry, researchers said.

november 16, 2007:
But gravity has always been an outlier. Not only have all attempts to link gravity to the other three forces failed, but physicists still can't agree on what gravity actually is or how it works.

Lisi solves this by using the E8 lattice, an eight-dimensional structure visualized earlier this year in a widely circulated paper.
sure didn't take long, did it?



edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...e_Theory_of_Everything

 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
march 22, 2007:
The calculation does not have any obvious practical applications, but could help advance theoretical physics and geometry, researchers said.

november 16, 2007:
But gravity has always been an outlier. Not only have all attempts to link gravity to the other three forces failed, but physicists still can't agree on what gravity actually is or how it works.

Lisi solves this by using the E8 lattice, an eight-dimensional structure visualized earlier this year in a widely circulated paper.
sure didn't take long, did it?

Well, dude, when you're out surfing some totally awesome waves it like sometimes takes longer than it should.
 

BladeVenom

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

Cowabunga dude, it's the the Grand Unified Theory.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

As if screaming "Eureka" and running through the streets naked is any better.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

im pretty sure all of the physics PHDs ive had classes with and/or worked with would have said something very close to that if they discovered what coudl be the unified theroy
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Fritzo
God, I hope he's wrong. I don't want the most important mathamatical equation of all time to come with the tag line from the discoverer 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

im pretty sure all of the physics PHDs ive had classes with and/or worked with would have said something very close to that if they discovered what coudl be the unified theroy

Yeah, just substitute "crap" with the more likely version.
 

DanTMWTMP

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haha i had to do a double take on the picture because it looked so damn familiar.....

It's the staff/academic visitor parking lot at UCSD where I work hahaha.

and lol @ the thread. I think it's great that this guy is being labeled by the media as that.

He really should've said, "yo dude, that's it!"
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: Mojoed
No one is gonna have any idea what I'm talking about ^ :(

</hijack>

I know exactly what you're talking about... Corky Bucek in the house :cool:
 

RossGr

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Sorry for the necopost.

If anyone is still interested there is an ongoing discussion about this on Physicsforums. Of Interest is the member who goes by Garret.

Garret is posting in this thread

Edit: Physicsforums is very tightly moderated, if you join and start posting nonsense you WILL be banned. Please behave.

AKA Integral
 

Eeezee

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It's a long-shot that he's right. We'll find out when we're done analyzing LHC data (first it has to turn on) in a few years.

Also, Einstein was famous for relativity, not particle physics (even though he was very active in the particle physics field). If anything, he'd be the next Feynman.
 

apac

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BTW this is the 8d structure supposedly modeling this theory... :Q I can't even begin to try and comprehend it.