Supreme Court expands gun rights in major decision

[Pens1566]

I'd like to ask Thomas if we can we also have the drug laws from the late 1780s.
By which I mean none.

I want someone to ask Justice Thomas about Loving v. Virginia ...

 

[hal2kilo]

Imagine that, law firm with a conscience.

Firm splits with lawyers who won gun rights case at Supreme Court - POLITICO

Two of the lawyers responsible for a major victory for gun rights forces at the Supreme Court on Thursday are parting with their prominent law firm after it announced it would no longer handle Second Amendment litigation.

 

[FlawleZ]

Cool, cool, so it should be easy to point out where in the constitution the words, “tyranny” or its equivalent are that support your claim. Meanwhile, because I’ve actually read the constitution, I can refer you to article 1 section 8 clause 15, and 16, as proof that not only are you wrong but as a clear explanation as to what the 2nd was meant for. I can also refer you to the militia acts of 1792 which further solidifies the meaning of the 2nd.

Plus, just using basic logic, the overthrowing of a democratically elected government is antithetical to democracy itself and is the actual tyranny as it would be a violent minority who would be imposing their will over the majority.

Bold of you to mention using logic when you didn't apply it in your own post.

An amendment is something added after the fact. So, it's logically impossible for the originally drafted articles to be used as clarification for documentation added AFTER they were written.

Whether an acting individual or group is "democratically elected" or not is a separate discussion. And whoever might be fairly and truly "democratically elected" would not want to impose tyranny of which the very country they are supposed to represent. We elect representatives not rulers.

 

[Muse]

Some safety from bullets in the USA ???

Sorry folks, it's 2 steps forward 20 steps back:

 

[Moonbeam]

Man if only you had an ounce of self awareness you might question ‘blustering certainty’.

If I had an ounce of self awareness I would know exactly that you would have that reaction to my statement and also as a result of just such self awareness why I would, if self aware to any degree, why you would react that way. Furthermore, I, if in fact I do have any self awareness at all, but not someone lacking it, would go ahead and make that statement anyway because the is in the world of the self aware, in my modest and humble opinion anyway, an awareness of the profound importance of knowing the difference between certainty of belief and knowing things experimentally. This unknown principle, again in my ever so humble opinion, lies at the core of a conundrum, of which you seem to be unaware, that it is unknown to you but not to me.

The self certainty that you see in me, and with great certainty that you see it, is the hidden face of your conditioning that to believe that you know anything with certainty is sinfully immodest. That self contempt that creates uncertainty in your self is something you want me to feel. How dare I affirm that I know as a result of having dealt with and ended my own inner doubt, especially when everything that that knowing is based on is the realization that all that I used to know with certainty was just a big joke played on me.

And while it is vital that you understand the possibility of such a strange way of seeing and that it will rouse the certainty in others that you have become a new exponent and recruit of psychobabble, I can only suggest that such a way of seeing exists. My only advice I can give you in the matter is that it is of the nature of ego to look for understanding 180 degrees from the right direction. Good luck. Love you.

 

[Muse]

Um, there is such thing as a healthy ego. However, a healthy ego realizes it's just a shell over the whole affair. But to live a human life without an ego is a prescription for disaster.

 

[fskimospy]

If I had an ounce of self awareness I would know exactly that you would have that reaction to my statement and also as a result of just such self awareness why I would, if self aware to any degree, why you would react that way. Furthermore, I, if in fact I do have any self awareness at all, but not someone lacking it, would go ahead and make that statement anyway because the is in the world of the self aware, in my modest and humble opinion anyway, an awareness of the profound importance of knowing the difference between certainty of belief and knowing things experimentally. This unknown principle, again in my ever so humble opinion, lies at the core of a conundrum, of which you seem to be unaware, that it is unknown to you but not to me.

The self certainty that you see in me, and with great certainty that you see it, is the hidden face of your conditioning that to believe that you know anything with certainty is sinfully immodest. That self contempt that creates uncertainty in your self is something you want me to feel. How dare I affirm that I know as a result of having dealt with and ended my own inner doubt, especially when everything that that knowing is based on is the realization that all that I used to know with certainty was just a big joke played on me.

And while it is vital that you understand the possibility of such a strange way of seeing and that it will rouse the certainty in others that you have become a new exponent and recruit of psychobabble, I can only suggest that such a way of seeing exists. My only advice I can give you in the matter is that it is of the nature of ego to look for understanding 180 degrees from the right direction. Good luck. Love you.

I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

 

[fskimospy]

Um, there is such thing as a healthy ego. However, a healthy ego realizes it's just a shell over the whole affair. But to live a human life without an ego is a prescription for disaster.

As is abundantly clear from his posts he doesn't live a life without ego, haha. That's just something he claims for reasons only he knows. Maybe he thinks it makes him sound smart or enlightened or something.

 

[Muse]

As is abundantly clear from his posts he doesn't live a life without ego, haha. That's just something he claims for reasons only he knows. Maybe he thinks it makes him sound smart or enlightened or something.

He invests himself in his posts. He would do himself a big favor if he took on the role of editor of his content. He should reread his posts before hitting [POST REPLY] because his failure to do so makes his posts much more difficult to read. 5x as many people would actually read his posts if he took the time to insure their intelligibility.

 

[ivwshane]

Bold of you to mention using logic when you didn't apply it in your own post.

An amendment is something added after the fact. So, it's logically impossible for the originally drafted articles to be used as clarification for documentation added AFTER they were written.

Whether an acting individual or group is "democratically elected" or not is a separate discussion. And whoever might be fairly and truly "democratically elected" would not want to impose tyranny of which the very country they are supposed to represent. We elect representatives not rulers.

Lol you stupid fuck, and the militia acts were passed after the 2nd amendment was ratified. ALL of which was being discussed around the same time. Try again.

 

[eelw]

As is abundantly clear from his posts he doesn't live a life without ego, haha. That's just something he claims for reasons only he knows. Maybe he thinks it makes him sound smart or enlightened or something.

A fortune cookie makes more sense than his posts

 

[MtnMan]

The NY ruling is really a non-issue. It only allows those that want to carry a concealed gun that ability AFTER they have gone through background checks by whatever agency issues permits. This will also affect other "may issue" states such as NJ, DE, MA, MD, HI, and DC

I have a Concealed Handgun Permit in NC. I have had it for many years. In NC the sheriff issues the permit, after passing a training course and a lengthy background check, including court records, hospitals, mental health providers, and the VA if you happen to be a veteran. It must be renewed every 5 years, with all the checks run again, and it can be revoked at anytime, for specific reasons, from restraining orders, to a DUI. The people with concealed carry permits are not the problem. My wife also has her permit, as do my daughter, and my grandson.

As someone that has had a permit for many years, I see no problem with the ruling as far as NY is concerned. Getting a permit in NY is often now who you are, your mental stability, but who you know.

As some that has had a permit for many years, I am very concerned about states with what is called "constitutional carry", which means if you can own a gun, which isn't a big hurdle, you can carry it concealed. Several states have just passed laws allowing constitutional carry, which means that people like Dillan Roof could conceal carry in 25 states.

 

[trenchfoot]

As past history has shown, many gun owners have taken on the attitude that these massacres of children and other innocents are not their problem. Their concerns revolve around the idea that these mass murders of children in their classrooms and other social gatherings must NOT become THEIR problem because it would then involve having to be more responsible and accountable for their ownership of their firearms. They don't want to be burdened with those responsibilities because of the liabilities that come with it.

 

[Muse]

As past history has shown, many gun owners have taken on the attitude that these massacres of children and other innocents are not their problem. Their concerns revolve around the idea that these mass murders of children in their classrooms and other social gatherings must NOT become THEIR problem because it would then involve having to be more responsible and accountable for their ownership of their firearms. They don't want to be burdened with those responsibilities because of the liabilities that come with it.

We're not going to make the changes we need with respect to gun violence in America without a sea change in public attitude. Something like this: