Supreme Court Divided on Hobby Lobby and birth control issue

[SMOGZINN]

Why not mandate health insurance cover toilet paper or tampons also, since it makes almost as much sense as birth control in most cases?

I'm almost afraid to ask, but why do you think that?

 

[nehalem256]

I'm almost afraid to ask, but why do you think that?

Tampons prevent women from bleeding all over their pants. Are you going to argue that doesn't constitute health care?

And it seems that tampons are a lot more essential than birth control. A woman can't just choose not to menstruate.

So really "free" tampons actually make more sense.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Tampons prevent women from bleeding all over their pants. Are you going to argue that doesn't constitute health care?

And it seems that tampons are a lot more essential than birth control. A woman can't just choose not to menstruate.

So really "free" tampons actually make more sense.

Ah. I think I see what y'all's problem is. Your knowledge of females anatomy is limited to 18th century. Menses is not bleeding, any more then drooling is.
Also, with birth control they can choose to not menstruate.

 

[glenn1]

I'm almost afraid to ask, but why do you think that?

Because insurance is intended to be a relatively cost-effective way to mitigate risks and cover random and unexpected costs. When you expand the coverage to include routine, predictable, and recurring events and their costs it's no longer 'insurance' but just a prepaid expense account. Which ends up costing more than if you had just paid out of pocket for the item in question since you have to cover the administrative costs for the insurance company.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Because insurance is intended to be a relatively cost-effective way to mitigate risks and cover random and unexpected costs. When you expand the coverage to include routine, predictable, and recurring events and their costs it's no longer 'insurance' but just a prepaid expense account. Which ends up costing more than if you had just paid out of pocket for the item in question since you have to cover the administrative costs for the insurance company.

But realistically this is NOT how medical insurance works. Medical insurance is more of a collective bargaining tool with the pharmaceutical industry then anything else.
Insurance covers all sorts of routine, predictable, and recurring events, such as yearly physicals, eye glasses, and dental cleaning. These are prophylactic services that help prevent other medical conditions, a lot like birth control prevents a expensive medical condition.

 

[nehalem256]

Ah. I think I see what y'all's problem is. Your knowledge of females anatomy is limited to 18th century. Menses is not bleeding, any more then drooling is.
Also, with birth control they can choose to not menstruate.

Menstruation is the periodic discharge of blood and mucosal tissue from the inner lining of the uterus through the vagina

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstruation

If you are drooling blood I suggest visiting a doctor.

 

[SMOGZINN]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menstruation

If you are drooling blood I suggest visiting a doctor.

Read it again. Read very carefully. I'm sure you will be able to see that one of these things is not like the other. Menstrual fluid contains blood, but does not constitute bleeding.

 

[glenn1]

But realistically this is NOT how medical insurance works. Medical insurance is more of a collective bargaining tool with the pharmaceutical industry then anything else.
Insurance covers all sorts of routine, predictable, and recurring events, such as yearly physicals, eye glasses, and dental cleaning. These are prophylactic services that help prevent other medical conditions, a lot like birth control prevents a expensive medical condition.

Insurance might cover all those things, depending on the plan you chose to suit your needs and budget Or at least that's the way it used to work before Obamacare made that model illegal. Now you get to pay for lots of covered services no matter what, including if you can't use them.

I can't wait for Democrats to do to car insurance what they did to health insurance, and mandate that it cover oil changes, new tires, car washes, breathalyzer lockout device, Scotchguard fabric protectant and the underbody sealant.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Insurance might cover all those things, depending on the plan you chose to suit your needs and budget Or at least that's the way it used to work before Obamacare made that model illegal. Now you get to pay for lots of covered services no matter what, including if you can't use them.

I have for years had the cheapest high deductible plan I could find and it had all of those things long before the AMA.

 

[nehalem256]

Read it again. Read very carefully. I'm sure you will be able to see that one of these things is not like the other. Menstrual fluid contains blood, but does not constitute bleeding.

Bleeding, technically known as hemorrhaging or hæmorrhaging (see American and British spelling differences), is the loss of blood escaping from the circulatory system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding

No lets think about this. If the blood is coming out of the vagina is it in the circulatory system?

 

[Oldgamer]

Ah. I think I see what y'all's problem is. Your knowledge of females anatomy is limited to 18th century. Menses is not bleeding, any more then drooling is.
Also, with birth control they can choose to not menstruate.

The truth is some on here don't care what a woman's anatomy is apart from the one area they can use.

 

[glenn1]

The truth is some on here don't care what a woman's anatomy is apart from the one area they can use.

And that one part would be the finger that pulls the lever for the Democratic candidate.

 

[OutHouse]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleeding

No lets think about this. If the blood is coming out of the vagina is it in the circulatory system?

you failed biology didnt you.

 

[zinfamous]

you failed biology didnt you.

You're asking this of the guy that puts his penis in a toaster.