Supreme Court Blocks Execution . . .

CaptnKirk

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It's Not Fatal Enough

Wow ! Talk about a close call . . .

Clarence Hill was to be executed on Wednesday for the 1982 murder of a Pensacola police officer.

Hill had been strapped to a gurney and intra-venous lines were running into his arms late on Tuesday night,
his lawyer said, when Justice Anthony Kennedy issued a temporary stay. :shocked:

What's being questioned about the use of Lethal Injection as the vehicle of choice to reach Nirvana
is whether or not it might cause pain to the recipiant.

Now, to me, if he /they did kill someone than they have already delivered pain themselves,
so I don't care if they receive a dose of the reality of pain they inflicted on themselves.
Squeeze them in a vise . . . they deserve it.

( _|_ ) but

Isn't it 'cruel and unusual punishment' to put him through it once more . . after he already was just moments away . . .
betcha it's messin' with his head.

He get's another chance :Q
 

1EZduzit

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I guess the studies show that capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent to murder.

I have to wonder if an execution was by being burned at the stake or being drawn and quaretered if that might not be more of a deterrent??

:shocked:
 

TraumaRN

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Anyone who works in the medical/nursing field will tell you just how much potassium burns going in, and thats small amount delivered over 1-8 hours....i cant imagine 80-100MEQ's going in quickly...probably scorch the inside of your veins
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I guess the studies show that capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent to murder.

I have to wonder if an execution was by being burned at the stake or being drawn and quaretered if that might not be more of a deterrent??

:shocked:

Why would it be? Would someone really not commit a murder just because of the death penalty? If they're caught they're screwed anyways. To me life in prison vs death penalty would not be that big of a difference. They both permanently ruin your life.
 
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I thought they used a massive amount of anesthesia to totally knock the guy out before they started with the potassium. By the time they start the actual killing, dude is in never-never land.
 

Meuge

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If you're going to do it, just use the standard anesthetic/paralytic combo... general anesthesia cocktail. Pump 'em with a 10X dose, and take them off the gurney 30 minutes later. After half an hour of not breathing I am sure they wouldn't be alive anymore.

That being said, I am against the death penalty as a matter of principle.
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I thought they used a massive amount of anesthesia to totally knock the guy out before they started with the potassium. By the time they start the actual killing, dude is in never-never land.

Right this is what we know.....but generally a prison isnt going to tell you how much Versed and Halothane(or whatever cocktail they use) they used before the lethal chemicals. This is probably what the inmate and his lawyers are using as their argument, probably using evidence that not all people who are 'knocked out' are really out, you've probably heard the operating room horror stories of people being awake during a surgery etc etc...
 

OrganizedChaos

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i don't see why they just don't shoot people in the head. what could be faster, your dead before you even here the sound.
 

CaptnKirk

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
i don't see why they just don't shoot people in the head. what could be faster, your dead before you even here the sound.

Hmmmm, old Chinese Government method . . . has merit,
send the bill for the cost of the bullet to the family.

 

spunkz

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I guess the studies show that capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent to murder.

I have to wonder if an execution was by being burned at the stake or being drawn and quaretered if that might not be more of a deterrent??

:shocked:

it's about justice, not about deterrence.
 
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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I thought they used a massive amount of anesthesia to totally knock the guy out before they started with the potassium. By the time they start the actual killing, dude is in never-never land.

Right this is what we know.....but generally a prison isnt going to tell you how much Versed and Halothane(or whatever cocktail they use) they used before the lethal chemicals. This is probably what the inmate and his lawyers are using as their argument, probably using evidence that not all people who are 'knocked out' are really out, you've probably heard the operating room horror stories of people being awake during a surgery etc etc...

Good point. But if you think about it... Even if you are awake the whole time, it only hurts for a minute. ;)
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I guess the studies show that capital punishment isn't much of a deterrent to murder.

I have to wonder if an execution was by being burned at the stake or being drawn and quaretered if that might not be more of a deterrent??

:shocked:

Why would it be? Would someone really not commit a murder just because of the death penalty? If they're caught they're screwed anyways. To me life in prison vs death penalty would not be that big of a difference. They both permanently ruin your life.

It probably wouldn't. If it is a murder of passion, then they aren't thinking of the consequences and it's a evil, cold blooded murder they probably think they're going to get away with it anyway.

Maybe we should just imprison the murderers and kill the rest of them. We could start with Ken Lay and Tom DeLay :D