Supposedly this is the shooter

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shortylickens

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If true its gonna confuse a LOT of people on both sides.
Me? I honestly dont know. I hope theres no violent outbursts just because of who the guy is.

There are already active threads about the shooting in both OT and P&N.
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[DHT]Osiris

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Jesus christ your country is fucked. People are more worried about which side they can blame it on instead of anything else. No wonder this shit never stops.
Welcome to the party, pick one of your two coats (doesn't matter which) and your rifle, and get thee into the breach.
 

mizzou

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Jesus christ your country is fucked. People are more worried about which side they can blame it on instead of anything else. No wonder this shit never stops.

Our country? I'm pretty sure if you monitor the news every country has something f#%king them pretty hard right now.
 

Jaskalas

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Having a profile of the man would be useful. It's likely not difficult to see how an old, lonely, man was broken down and fell victim to a silent rage. His inner demons were legion, and this massacre was the ultimate expression of his pain. For that is what we humans do... we share our pain and our misery with others, spreading it like a disease.

And so the most useful purpose of examining the shooter is to ask ourselves, what corrupted him? What sort of society could have engaged with and helped him earlier in life? People are not born as mass murderers. They break down into one. We ultimately failed to prevent that corrosive process, but what if we could?

Maybe what this country needs is an engagement with its citizens... for its citizens. To embrace and help one other - and leave no one behind.
 

Mai72

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Having a profile of the man would be useful. It's likely not difficult to see how an old, lonely, man was broken down and fell victim to a silent rage. His inner demons were legion, and this massacre was the ultimate expression of his pain. For that is what we humans do... we share our pain and our misery with others, spreading it like a disease.

And so the most useful purpose of examining the shooter is to ask ourselves, what corrupted him? What sort of society could have engaged with and helped him earlier in life? People are not born as mass murderers. They break down into one. We ultimately failed to prevent that corrosive process, but what if we could?

Maybe what this country needs is an engagement with its citizens... for its citizens. To embrace and help one other - and leave no one behind.

I believe that we are doomed to kill each other. Look through out history. Death and destruction. I don't expect it to get better. 99% of people are mostly good. It's that 1% that we should be worried about. Add the fact that high powered guns are so readily available.

I also think that there are a lot of people who are loners. They just don't fit in with society. We don't ask if these people are fine. In fact, we ignore them. Their anger builds and when they burst we act surprised.

It's not good.
 

OWR88

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Who in their right mind starts to look at pictures Trump protesters? Instead of waiting for the media to report the news.....oh wait nevermind mind.
 

Jaskalas

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Anger at what, the need to go to work and engage with a society he no longer believed in? Perhaps he lost his job in the recent past... what were his monthly bills like... was he underwater or headed in that direction? One must know his despair to reach a deep and underlying motive for that anger. Whether he was Left or Right his group identity would be beside the point as to what truly ate at him.

Perhaps it is just loneliness by itself. Isolation is said to be torture with real mental degradation and harm as a consequence.

If we can identity the corrosive aspects of his life we can entertain ideas on how to engage with others.
 

sandorski

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Looks similar, but wouldn't be surprised if some dude ends up getting a bunch of death threats and needs to plead to the public to stop.
 

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This worked out well for the Boston bombing right?
 

HotJob

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I'm placing my money on brain tumor, similar to Charles Whitman in the University of Texas clock tower shooting in 1966.
 

Indus

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Well we know liberals can't shoot worth a damn so it wasn't one of them.
 
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