Support our troops?

[slipONflange]

My brother just got sent to Iraq two weeks ago. He is stationed just outside of Fallujah at a base. A couple of things surprised me about his situation.
One the cameo they gave him is forest cameo and not desert cameo, he said "someone messed up the order and it was to expensive to fix".
Two is how many supplies they lack as far as things we might take for granted, like socks, a place to sit (besides the ground), chap stick, and flee powder just to name a few things he has asked for us to send.
My question is what do you think we should be supplying our troops with. Do you think it the soldier?s responsibility to write home and ask his family to send the things he need or should the government be supplying these things? I have no problem sending anything he asks for but what about the soldier who don?t have anyone to send them anything?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: slipONflange
My brother just got sent to Iraq two weeks ago. He is stationed just outside of Fallujah at a base. A couple of things surprised me about his situation.
One the cameo they gave him is forest cameo and not desert cameo, he said "someone messed up the order and it was to expensive to fix".
Two is how many supplies they lack as far as things we might take for granted, like socks, a place to sit (besides the ground), chap stick, and flee powder just to name a few things he has asked for us to send.
My question is what do you think we should be supplying our troops with. Do you think it the soldier?s responsibility to write home and ask his family to send the things he need or should the government be supplying these things? I have no problem sending anything he asks for but what about the soldier who don?t have anyone to send them anything?

This unfortunatly is not a new problem.

 

[dahunan]

Is this how George tries to save money?

I wonder how much money the CEO's and FIO's and CIO's etc etc for the US Defense Industry Corporations earn everyday

How much money do the Texas Oil Ranchers earn

How much money do the disgusting slimebag politicains earn

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As a fellow American I apologize that I and my forefathers allowed our Government to do this to you and your brother...

Any Preseident and Secretary of Defense who allows our soldiers to go into battle dressed like a sitting duck and not properly equipped with body armor should be tried for treason >> this goes for ALLLLL Parties... If this happened under Clinton then him and all of his SODs need to be brought to justice too

If I were president I would NEVER write a single welfare check for the rich or poor UNTIL ALL SOLDIERS were RESPECTED LIKE THEY SHOULD BE

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Is this how George tries to save money?

I wonder how much money the CEO's and FIO's and CIO's etc etc for the US Defense Industry Corporations earn everyday

How much money do the Texas Oil Ranchers earn

How much money do the disgusting slimebag politicains earn

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As a fellow American I apologize that I and my forefathers allowed our Government to do this to you and your brother...

Any Preseident and Secretary of Defense who allows our soldiers to go into battle dressed like a sitting duck and not properly equipped with body armor should be tried for treason >> this goes for ALLLLL Parties... If this happened under Clinton then him and all of his SODs need to be brought to justice too

If I were president I would NEVER write a single welfare check for the rich or poor UNTIL ALL SOLDIERS were RESPECTED LIKE THEY SHOULD BE

Yes, Bush personally stole his socks.

From the people that I know that have gone into battle (they airdrop in, so they may have different rules than your brother, I don't know), they can take one pack with them. When they get the call that they're being deployed, they have two hours to be on the plane with whatever they're taking with them. Doesn't his unit have a quartermaster or somebody? :\ Good luck to him.

 

[Kibbo]

My best wishes to your brother.

As an anti-war libral, I don't like those who feel the need to use this this kind of situation to support their own position.

I hope your brother ends up ok.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: dahunan
Is this how George tries to save money?

I wonder how much money the CEO's and FIO's and CIO's etc etc for the US Defense Industry Corporations earn everyday

How much money do the Texas Oil Ranchers earn

How much money do the disgusting slimebag politicains earn

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As a fellow American I apologize that I and my forefathers allowed our Government to do this to you and your brother...

Any Preseident and Secretary of Defense who allows our soldiers to go into battle dressed like a sitting duck and not properly equipped with body armor should be tried for treason >> this goes for ALLLLL Parties... If this happened under Clinton then him and all of his SODs need to be brought to justice too

If I were president I would NEVER write a single welfare check for the rich or poor UNTIL ALL SOLDIERS were RESPECTED LIKE THEY SHOULD BE

Yes, Bush personally stole his socks.

From the people that I know that have gone into battle (they airdrop in, so they may have different rules than your brother, I don't know), they can take one pack with them. When they get the call that they're being deployed, they have two hours to be on the plane with whatever they're taking with them. Doesn't his unit have a quartermaster or somebody? :\ Good luck to him.

Commander In Chief of the Strongest and WEALTHIEST NATION in History... yet ... yet... our soldiers are being sent into battle without Armored Humvees and CONSTANTLY WITHOUT PROPER BULLETPROOFING for thie own bodies..

Stop the partisanship for a moment... doesn't this disgust you that troops are not supplied properly??
I am sure it happened under Clinton too and under George Sr. and RR... BUT IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Commander In Chief of the Strongest and WEALTHIEST NATION in History... yet ... yet... our soldiers are being sent into battle without Armored Humvees and CONSTANTLY WITHOUT PROPER BULLETPROOFING for thie own bodies..

Stop the partisanship for a moment... doesn't this disgust you that troops are not supplied properly??
I am sure it happened under Clinton too and under George Sr. and RR... BUT IT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN

I agree with you 100%, but it's not Bush's fault. I would sell my car if it meant some of our boys could get more equipment (unfortunately, they might be able to get an extra bullet for it :/).

 

[cpumaster]

I think Halliburton/KBR should be paying for all the needs with all the profit they are making in Iraq.
The profit they made on top of the blood and pain our soldiers are suffering in Iraq.

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: cpumaster
I think Halliburton/KBR should be paying for all the needs with all the profit they are making in Iraq.
The profit they made on top of the blood and pain our soldiers are suffering in Iraq.

I would again like to state my support for the troops in Iraq, and yet add a voice of rationality.

The troops do have armour. Perhaps not the best technology allows, but the do have armour. Exactly what amount of increased taxation would you suport in order to give the technologically best rmour available? Remember that increased taxation will inhibit future productivity, which would mean less money available to properly equip troops needed in the future.

 

[oldman420]

armor dousnt help much in a car bombing.
i think that perhaps we could all sort of adopt a soldier and help em out as individuals.
granted we couldnt send em armor or uniforms but what soldier wouldnt like to get a package with socks and other stuff?
think about it if the govt issued foot powder and socks they would be low grade and not nearly as nice as the ones at kmart.
is there such a program does anyone know?

 

[burnedout]

Originally posted by: slipONflange
My brother just got sent to Iraq two weeks ago. He is stationed just outside of Fallujah at a base. A couple of things surprised me about his situation.
One the cameo they gave him is forest cameo and not desert cameo, he said "someone messed up the order and it was to expensive to fix".
Two is how many supplies they lack as far as things we might take for granted, like socks, a place to sit (besides the ground), chap stick, and flee powder just to name a few things he has asked for us to send.
My question is what do you think we should be supplying our troops with. Do you think it the soldier?s responsibility to write home and ask his family to send the things he need or should the government be supplying these things? I have no problem sending anything he asks for but what about the soldier who don?t have anyone to send them anything?

In '91, we barreled across the berm with some vehicles painted in the woodland camo scheme. Have actually smeared diesel fuel on my skin and uniform in an attempt to ward off bugs. Some personnel in other units weren't issued desert BDUs and therefore fought on wearing woodland style.

To overcome difficulties posed by hostile environments in conjunction with inept supply sergeants, soldiers typically possess two magical qualities that aren't so evident out here in civilian land - camaraderie and adaptability.

Quite honestly, current operations should be different this time around. Nevertheless, from various reports, there are indeed serious supply problems experienced by units in Iraq that leaders should have addressed and corrected long ago.

Incidentally, one of my cousins, currently with the 82nd ABN at Bragg, returned from Iraq earlier this year. Somewhat to his mother's dismay, he's reenlisting! Wants the 173d herd in Italy.

 

[oldman420]

http://www.adoptaplatoon.org/new/
heres one way to support our troops

 

[Infohawk]

In World War II, the rich paid 91% tax to pay for stuff like this. Today, GWB is trying to CUT taxes to the rich. Someone's gotta pay. Bush wants it to be you and your family. He wants to save his money though.

 

[daveshel]

Good luck to your brother. He should have been better supplied. But then, he should not have been sent there in the first place.

Here is the experience of another family.

 

[Todd33]

My company is taking donations for the troops. Things like chap stick, band-aids, etc. WTF? Why can't our tax monery buy this? We can subsidize gas in Iraq, but we can't buy the basics for our troops?

What's next, do they want us to donate bullets? How about no tax cuts until the war is over, maybe roll some back, people need to learn sacrafice.

 

[phantom309]

I oppose this war, but I have the utmost respect for the soldiers fighting it. Regardless of who wins the election I hope we can resolve this mess quickly, and I hope that your brother's efforts will ultimately benefit Iraq and it's people, and that he gets back home safe and sound.

Unfortunately this isn't the first time I've heard of soldiers being poorly equipped for their service over there - the Goons at SA had to raise money to buy armor for a few of their own who went there.

 

[Rainsford]

Unfortunitly "support our troops" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. To some, it is a phrase meant to ward off criticism of the war and nothing more.

 

[Dissipate]

Support our troops - bring them HOME.

 

[Infohawk]

I wish some neocons were here to explain who they think should be paying for this stuff. Guess that's why they're called chickenhawks.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: slipONflange

My brother just got sent to Iraq two weeks ago

Prayers for your brother and all enlisted for their safe return home.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Is this how George tries to save money?

I wonder how much money the CEO's and FIO's and CIO's etc etc for the US Defense Industry Corporations earn everyday

How much money do the Texas Oil Ranchers earn

How much money do the disgusting slimebag politicains earn

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As a fellow American I apologize that I and my forefathers allowed our Government to do this to you and your brother...

Any Preseident and Secretary of Defense who allows our soldiers to go into battle dressed like a sitting duck and not properly equipped with body armor should be tried for treason >> this goes for ALLLLL Parties... If this happened under Clinton then him and all of his SODs need to be brought to justice too

If I were president I would NEVER write a single welfare check for the rich or poor UNTIL ALL SOLDIERS were RESPECTED LIKE THEY SHOULD BE

There are many programs to send care packages to random deployed soldiers...Which ones have you participated in?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: dahunan
Is this how George tries to save money?

I wonder how much money the CEO's and FIO's and CIO's etc etc for the US Defense Industry Corporations earn everyday

How much money do the Texas Oil Ranchers earn

How much money do the disgusting slimebag politicains earn

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As a fellow American I apologize that I and my forefathers allowed our Government to do this to you and your brother...

Any Preseident and Secretary of Defense who allows our soldiers to go into battle dressed like a sitting duck and not properly equipped with body armor should be tried for treason >> this goes for ALLLLL Parties... If this happened under Clinton then him and all of his SODs need to be brought to justice too

If I were president I would NEVER write a single welfare check for the rich or poor UNTIL ALL SOLDIERS were RESPECTED LIKE THEY SHOULD BE

There are many programs to send care packages to random deployed soldiers...Which ones have you participated in?

Are you talking about the one that happens on April 15th?

 

[b0mbrman]

ah...touché

But you seem to think the gov't doesn't do enough--gov't action being a reaction to popular opinion. What's keeping you from putting in a little extra to help out the soldiers who you care about?

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
ah...touché

But you seem to think the gov't doesn't do enough--gov't action being a reaction to popular opinion. What's keeping you from putting in a little extra to help out the soldiers who you care about?

I understand what you are saying.. but why doesn't the government provide everything that they are supposed to provide.. afterall... without the soldier they would not be safe enough to even have a government

Didn't George Bush and Haliburton just take $200,000,000,000 from me and and the next generation?

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: dahunan
Is this how George tries to save money?

I wonder how much money the CEO's and FIO's and CIO's etc etc for the US Defense Industry Corporations earn everyday

How much money do the Texas Oil Ranchers earn

How much money do the disgusting slimebag politicains earn

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

As a fellow American I apologize that I and my forefathers allowed our Government to do this to you and your brother...

Any Preseident and Secretary of Defense who allows our soldiers to go into battle dressed like a sitting duck and not properly equipped with body armor should be tried for treason >> this goes for ALLLLL Parties... If this happened under Clinton then him and all of his SODs need to be brought to justice too

If I were president I would NEVER write a single welfare check for the rich or poor UNTIL ALL SOLDIERS were RESPECTED LIKE THEY SHOULD BE

There are many programs to send care packages to random deployed soldiers...Which ones have you participated in?

I think we participate in taxes and voting.

GWB and his cronies on the hill need to send a big fat care package to the troops with the money we gave them. And they also need to pony up more too since they are rich fat-cats.