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Support our soldiers!!!

With all the Pro/Anti Iraq war threads, one point I do not want overlooked...

I think it is great that we all live in a nation that provides us the ability to speak our mind, to support or protest our leaders actions. This is a GOOD thing!

But no matter how you feel about the coming war, Bush, or his policies, please support our men and women in arms. They have taken an oath to defend this nation from all enemies of the United States, and to obey the orders of our Commander In Chief (that would be President Bush).

They have commited themselves to risking their lives so we can all enjoy the ability to sit here and speak our minds. Please support them!!!

: ) Hopper
 
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
With all the Pro/Anti Iraq war threads, one point I do not want overlooked...

I think it is great that we all live in a nation that provides us the ability to speak our mind, to support or protest our leaders actions. This is a GOOD thing!

But no matter how you feel about the coming war, Bush, or his policies, please support our men and women in arms. They have taken an oath to defend this nation from all enemies of the United States, and to obey the orders of our Commander In Chief (that would be President Bush).

They have commited themselves to risking their lives so we can all enjoy the ability to sit here and speak our minds. Please support them!!!

: ) Hopper

I'm not pro-war by any means - but, if for whatever reason a war starts, I'd like to state that I would completely support the armed services. I may not support the government behind the action or indeed its decision to proceed with the military option - but I would completely 100% support those who are putting their lives on the line to carry it out.

Andy
 
i have no problem with military,
lot of my friends are in ROTC so i'm hoping theyre gonna make it thru ok 🙂

Hopefully i can join in the ROTC too, my immigration papers got cleared out the other week
 
Originally posted by: halik
i have no problem with military,
lot of my friends are in ROTC so i'm hoping theyre gonna make it thru ok 🙂

Hopefully i can join in the ROTC too, my immigration papers got cleared out the other week

Would you go fight in Iraq if your unit was assigned there?

 
Originally posted by: Fencer128
I'm not pro-war by any means - but, if for whatever reason a war starts, I'd like to state that I would completely support the armed services. I may not support the government behind the action or indeed its decision to proceed with the military option - but I would completely 100% support those who are putting their lives on the line to carry it out.

Andy
I'm pro-free Iraq, so take that for what it's worth. 🙂

I support our soldiers and I thank you for doing so as well, even if you disagree with Bush (which is fine, that is what makes America great!!!)

: ) Hopper
 
I'm very pro-war Iraq.

And, God Bless the soldiers overseas, and in America. They are doing the fight that most of the Americans can not do. God bless them.
 
This is, in my view, a Political War, and not a "real war." It sucks to spend federal money when we could use it set up drilling in Alaska, or invest it in research for alternative-fuel cars. It's also sucks that so many of our nation's citizens, in their prime, are going over seas to do battle w/ a nation who's missle range is 200 Miles, tops.
 
Agreed.

There is a post that Hayabusarider posted here a while ago, and I saved it. Here it is again (hope it is alright if I post it Hayabusarider):

There is the saying "sharper than a serpent's tooth is an ungrateful child"
I do agree that vets can sometimes come down hard on those who never saw combat or even service. Let me see if I give you a perspective that every vet may not share, but I would not say is inappropriate.

Imagine yourself back in the days of Vietnam. In the beginning, it was honorable to go. You were serving your country, you did your duty. You had no idea what sh!t you were going to. What you got was something not found in novels describing the glory of war to say the least. By the time the war wound down, the American people were sick of getting body bags and no sense there was ever a purpose to the war. Soldiers returning, wanting not glory, but just to get on with their lives found that their own people hated them as much as the enemy. There was no rest from their misery. Still soldiers went over, knowing some of it, but you never really know. They had heard the horror stories of atrocities committed by soldiers, and were not going to get involved in that. Guess what? You still went where you were told, did what you did, because it isn?t a democracy in the military. One day you may go into a village, and here comes a child towards you. You smile towards it, then someone puts a bullet into her head. You scream and want to shoot the fckr who committed the outrage. That?s when you learned that someone sent this six year girl out with enough explosive charges on her body to blow you and your friends up; Someone killed a child that you and your friends could live. You vomit and vomit, and you justify it. Maybe you would have taken the chance, but what about the others who depended on you. Every night you see her for a while, but it happens less and less. You get less and less sensitive to it. You eat among the bodies and joke sitting in the company of the dead. Some never get used to it completely though. Nobody wants to dwell on it. Hardly does any good now does it?

Well the time comes and our soldier comes home. He knows the welcome he will get, but he has one consolation. He can think that he suffered so another did not, and that by god the next generation wont. The problem now is that the next generation or two has no idea what it was like, Few who served in the Gulf war knew it as bad, but every soldier knows what their duty is. The young today have no idea what a war is, except in theory. No experience with it, did not even live through the times when the body count was posted on the nightly news. No context at all. Everything is taken for granted. They are indeed thankless, or at least incapable of fully grasping what has been handed to them. What can set an old soldier off though is listening to people rant on about the service, never distinguishing between those who make policy and those who have to live with them. Regulations aren?t made by soldiers who serve in harms way. I think it is the carelessness of those criticizing that sets people off. Don?t like the policy? Yes go after it; but don?t say the damned military or some such thing, because the military is a whole lot of people, including those who were or might be shot at.
 
Originally posted by: ptyes
This is, in my view, a Political War, and not a "real war." It sucks to spend federal money when we could use it set up drilling in Alaska, or invest it in research for alternative-fuel cars. It's also sucks that so many of our nation's citizens, in their prime, are going over seas to do battle w/ a nation who's missle range is 200 Miles, tops.
Yes, it is a political war, but then aren't they all?

In this case, 50 million Iraqi people will be greatful for having been freed from an evil dictator. We are going to give them back their land and their country.

That is never a bad thing!

: ) Hopper
 
What do you mean by support them, hope they survive or hope they kill millions of Iraqis or something else? Are you talking about mindless support, the kind of support where the fact that you are supporting them allows you to bask vicariously in their service and glory, and jack yourself up as some glorious super patriot yourself, or the kind of support when you see them as human beings trapped in a machine with a job they are duty bound to perform to the best of their ability. I don't know what you mean by support them. Do you? I fear you might be one of those disgusting mindless sicophants that gets his jollies off by watching people die. Is that what you mean by support. If it is, I won't join you in that kind of support. I'll support them in a way that you couldn't comprehend.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What do you mean by support them, hope they survive or hope they kill millions of Iraqis or something else? Are you talking about mindless support, the kind of support where the fact that you are supporting them allows you to bask vicariously in their service and glory, and jack yourself up as some glorious super patriot yourself, or the kind of support when you see them as human beings trapped in a machine with a job they are duty bound to perform to the best of their ability. I don't know what you mean by support them. Do you? I fear you might be one of those disgusting mindless sicophants that gets his jollies off by watching people die. Is that what you mean by support. If it is, I won't join you in that kind of support. I'll support them in a way that you couldn't comprehend.

Support the individual soldier that has to fight and kill and die. If you don't like the machine (heck, I don't sometimes), then fight against that. But the individual soldier is there to die for you. He is putting his life on the line for you. Even if you don't believe in the cause he is putting his life on the line for, you have to respect that soldier who is doing it.

My opinion at least.
 
Originally posted by: MikeA
They have my support! My Friends Armory



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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What do you mean by support them, hope they survive or hope they kill millions of Iraqis or something else? Are you talking about mindless support, the kind of support where the fact that you are supporting them allows you to bask vicariously in their service and glory, and jack yourself up as some glorious super patriot yourself, or the kind of support when you see them as human beings trapped in a machine with a job they are duty bound to perform to the best of their ability. I don't know what you mean by support them. Do you? I fear you might be one of those disgusting mindless sicophants that gets his jollies off by watching people die. Is that what you mean by support. If it is, I won't join you in that kind of support. I'll support them in a way that you couldn't comprehend.


There is an interesting thread "on another board" that asks the question --- "Are you a hypocrite if you support the soldiers but not the war?" The main premise of the argument is that it is the soldier, the grunt, pilot, etc., is really the one who decides if a war will go on because ultimately it is his decision to pull the trigger, drop the bomb, fire the missile, etc.
 
I totally agree.
Whatever your opinion of this war, the person to take it out on is Bush in 2004 election, not US troops who are following their commander in chief's orders, as they should.

 
God dam it! Why do all you f@ckers come in here to bash the soldiers? Take your protest crap somewhere else.

I support all the men and women who serve our armed forces. I do not always agree on what they do but I vote for the people I think will make the right decisions. The soldiers follow the people I vote for. I don't see many of you assholes here even lifting a finger to help those is the services. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
 
Originally posted by: optoman
God dam it! Why do all you f@ckers come in here to bash the soldiers? Take your protest crap somewhere else.

I support all the men and women who serve our armed forces. I do not always agree on what they do but I vote for the people I think will make the right decisions. The soldiers follow the people I vote for. I don't see many of you assholes here even lifting a finger to help those is the services. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Not I, I don't give blind support. I only give support to the good soldiers. I don't support the likes of Tim McVeigh, John Muhammad, etc. But I support money 100%, GO MONEY!! GO HAMBURGER!!
 
Originally posted by: DaveSohmer
God dam it! Why do all you f@ckers come in here to bash the soldiers? Take your protest crap somewhere else.

Who are you talking to?


Anyone who is posting about why we shouldn't go to war or why they shouldn't support the troops or stuff like that. Why can't people just say godspeed and hurry home soon?
 
Ever try to analyze the source of your agitation, optoman. I didn't notice any of 'those' people in this thread.

I'm praying we're saber rattling and if not, which I have always suspected, that there is as little death as possible on both sides. In an insane world, we cannot afford not to have a military. There is real evil in the world. I pray that our military doesn't become a part of it. The capacity to kill millions should never pass into the hands of fools. Power corrupts and absolutely power corrupts absolutly, they say. I don't personally agree, buy bush does not impress me as a profound human being. I see only an immature religious fanatic. Sorry.

As to our military people, I am so sorry they have to die in a war that doesn't have to happen. It's my fault because I could not stop it. All that death is on my hands. Nobody can ever really be happy.

This little dew drop world

It may be only a dew drop

but a dew drop mixed with tears.



I remember laying flowers at a certain grave and stones of the war dead stretching all around as far as the eye could see, thousands and thousands of them on that a day with a perfect sun. If you cannot understand I don't blame you. Such moments don't come or get through to everyone, I guess. I know why, but it makes no difference at all if it doesn't reach you.

If you think you understand you understand nothing at all. The sacred gift of life gets pissed away.

 
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