SuperTalent DDR2 800 CAS 4-4-3-8

Rafael

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I am about to buy this memory the 2 x 1 Gb kit.
I am building my new system C2D E6400 and P5B Deluxe, and I intend to OC.
My question is, do you guys think this memory has Micron D9 chips? Any one has expirence with it?
Or should I go with something else?

TIA!

Rafael
 

n7

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Yes it is D9s.

As are these:

Buffalo Firestix DDR2-800/1000
Crucial 667 3-3-3/800 4-4-4
Anything Team Xtreem
Mushkin DDR2-800 4-4-3/1000...
G.Skill DDR2-800 4-4-4 "HZ" only
 

Rafael

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Thank you very much n7!

I see on your sig that you have a list of DDR2 memory that has D9 chips.
Is this list up to date?
Also you think it will do 800 Mhz 3-3-3-8? I want to reach something like 800 Mhz 3-3-3-8 or even 900 Mhz 4-4-4-X. Do you think it will be possible with it? Got a big chance?

TIA!

Rafael
 

n7

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800 3-3-3 could happen, but it'd likely need excessive vdimm.

900 4-4-4 is very likely though.

In fact, with around 2.4V (or often less), most D9s will achieve 1000 4-4-4, or at worst, 1000 5-5-5.

If you want a very good OC, but don't want to spend a lot, i think the Team Xtreem 667/800 kits would be your best bet.

Ah i see you are in Brazil...i suppose you have limited options.

But the Super Talent should do well.
 

Rafael

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Yeah! I'm in Brazil! LOL
My friend is coming from US though.
So he is buying for me.
I was reading some reviews and ppl were saying good things about it.
I saw the Team memory, and they seem pretty good also.
I would like to stay in the $290-300 for the memory at the most.

Thanks again n7! If I have problems setting up my system I will look for you! You are the MAN! Replying almost every topic here in the OC forum!

Rafael
 

n7

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Originally posted by: Rafael
Thanks again n7! If I have problems setting up my system I will look for you! You are the MAN! Replying almost every topic here in the OC forum!

Rafael

AT pays me well ;)
 

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n7, I have need of your memory advice again. You say that list of DIMMs are all Micron D9. Does that mean they all have, roughly, the same OC potential? If I buy the 667 Crucial will I get nearly as much out of it as the 800? I ask because you had previously reccommended the Crucial 10th Anniversary, but that only comes in 667 flavour over here. Would I be within realistic expectations to run the PC5300-667 10th Anniversary stuff 1:1 with my E6300, even if it gets all the way to (for the sake of argument) 430FSB?
 

n7

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Roughly yes.

Obviously, some luck is involved, but pretty much all D9s reach 500 (DDR2-1000) +.

The 667 stuff will hit 430 (860) easy.

Once you get around 800, you'll likely have to loosen timings to 4-4-4, & around 1000, to 5-5-5.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: n7
Roughly yes.

Obviously, some luck is involved, but pretty much all D9s reach 500 (DDR2-1000) +.

The 667 stuff will hit 430 (860) easy.

Once you get around 800, you'll likely have to loosen timings to 4-4-4, & around 1000, to 5-5-5.

I have the G. Skill HZ sticks. I have them at 501 4-4-4-10 at 2.3v right now.
 

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I have similar sticks PC2-8000 Gskills that do 4-4-4-12 at 505....I never had tried but I bet with my E6600 and using stock 9x multi and max OC of 3.33ghz I may be able to get cas 3 out of them....

PPl like to bash Gskill but they are proven winners in this PC2-8000 variety and the price was great...hence why Newegg hasn't had them in stock for weeks...
 

Brunnis

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I wonder if my el-cheapo Kingmax sticks use D9 chips... I know some Kingmax modules have Micron chips (or at least have had in the past). There are only Kingmax's own markings on the chips, so I can't tell by looking at them. I have two 1GB sticks and they are curerntly running at 902MHz 4-4-4-12 on just 2.08V. I haven't tried for much higher, since I don't really want to push too much voltage into the sticks.
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: Brunnis
I wonder if my el-cheapo Kingmax sticks use D9 chips... I know some Kingmax modules have Micron chips (or at least have had in the past). There are only Kingmax's own markings on the chips, so I can't tell by looking at them. I have two 1GB sticks and they are curerntly running at 902MHz 4-4-4-12 on just 2.08V. I haven't tried for much higher, since I don't really want to push too much voltage into the sticks.

At this time Kingmax does not use Micron ICs.
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: n7
Roughly yes.

Obviously, some luck is involved, but pretty much all D9s reach 500 (DDR2-1000) +.

The 667 stuff will hit 430 (860) easy.

Once you get around 800, you'll likely have to loosen timings to 4-4-4, & around 1000, to 5-5-5.

Unless it's hand picked in which case they do DDR2-800 at 3-3-3-4 much like I have donw with my Crucial stuff.
 

Roguestar

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Aha. Sounds good, then. The 10th Anniversary Crucial are D9, and handpicked according that list too. So I should be fine ordering them and expecting to get a good OC?

Any issues you guys can think of about using them in a DS3 or S3? Will the BIOS come with a recent version if I order it now, or the F1 and I need to update it myself?
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: Roguestar
Aha. Sounds good, then. The 10th Anniversary Crucial are D9, and handpicked according that list too. So I should be fine ordering them and expecting to get a good OC?

Any issues you guys can think of about using them in a DS3 or S3? Will the BIOS come with a recent version if I order it now, or the F1 and I need to update it myself?

crucial 10th Anniversary is no longer available in retail channels. Just direct.
 

DaneGuy

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Roguestar
Aha. Sounds good, then. The 10th Anniversary Crucial are D9, and handpicked according that list too. So I should be fine ordering them and expecting to get a good OC?

Any issues you guys can think of about using them in a DS3 or S3? Will the BIOS come with a recent version if I order it now, or the F1 and I need to update it myself?

crucial 10th Anniversary is no longer available in retail channels. Just direct.

I don't see Crucial 10th Anniversary on the Crucial site or anywhere. Do you have a link?
 

treskin

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My 10th Anniversary Crucial is pulling 1000Mhz @ 4-4-4-8 at 2.2v so yeah if you can find them :)
 

Brunnis

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Brunnis
I wonder if my el-cheapo Kingmax sticks use D9 chips... I know some Kingmax modules have Micron chips (or at least have had in the past). There are only Kingmax's own markings on the chips, so I can't tell by looking at them. I have two 1GB sticks and they are curerntly running at 902MHz 4-4-4-12 on just 2.08V. I haven't tried for much higher, since I don't really want to push too much voltage into the sticks.

At this time Kingmax does not use Micron ICs.
Guess I was just pretty lucky then. :)
 

Roguestar

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Originally posted by: DaneGuy
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Roguestar
Aha. Sounds good, then. The 10th Anniversary Crucial are D9, and handpicked according that list too. So I should be fine ordering them and expecting to get a good OC?

Any issues you guys can think of about using them in a DS3 or S3? Will the BIOS come with a recent version if I order it now, or the F1 and I need to update it myself?

crucial 10th Anniversary is no longer available in retail channels. Just direct.

I don't see Crucial 10th Anniversary on the Crucial site or anywhere. Do you have a link?
They're available on the UK website, maybe they're all out of production in the US?
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: Roguestar
Originally posted by: DaneGuy
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Roguestar
Aha. Sounds good, then. The 10th Anniversary Crucial are D9, and handpicked according that list too. So I should be fine ordering them and expecting to get a good OC?

Any issues you guys can think of about using them in a DS3 or S3? Will the BIOS come with a recent version if I order it now, or the F1 and I need to update it myself?

crucial 10th Anniversary is no longer available in retail channels. Just direct.

I don't see Crucial 10th Anniversary on the Crucial site or anywhere. Do you have a link?
They're available on the UK website, maybe they're all out of production in the US?

could be all dried up and that's all.
 

DaneGuy

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Originally posted by: Roguestar
Originally posted by: DaneGuy
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Roguestar
Aha. Sounds good, then. The 10th Anniversary Crucial are D9, and handpicked according that list too. So I should be fine ordering them and expecting to get a good OC?

Any issues you guys can think of about using them in a DS3 or S3? Will the BIOS come with a recent version if I order it now, or the F1 and I need to update it myself?

crucial 10th Anniversary is no longer available in retail channels. Just direct.

I don't see Crucial 10th Anniversary on the Crucial site or anywhere. Do you have a link?
They're available on the UK website, maybe they're all out of production in the US?

I see them on the UK site but I have no idea what £164.99 is in US dollars. Would they sell to the United States?
 

Rafael

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I bought the SuperTalent.
Let`s wait now, and see how far it goes.
I wanted the Crucial 10th Anniversary, but I had to wait and it was out now.
And the another reason I wanted the Crucial was that it is 667 Mhz, so I was sure that I wouldn`t have boot problems with my P5B Deluxe.
Now I hope I don`t have any with the SuperTalent!

Thanx again n7!

I will post the results when I got my memory.
But unfortunately it will take a while to get it here.
 

n7

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Well, either start a new thread of bump this one when you get some results :D