Supermarket Owner Gives Away Stores to his 400 Employees

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Supermarket Owner Gives Away Stores to his 400 Employees


'Tis the season of giving, and a grocery-store owner is doing just that. Joe Lueken, who owns and manages two grocery stores in Bemidji, Minnesota, and one in Wahpeton, North Dakota, is retiring at age 70. Instead of selling his stores to the highest bidder, though, he will transfer ownership to the stores' 400 or so employees.


The employees will participate in an employee stock ownership program, receiving shares of Lueken's Village Foods based on length of service and salary -- and at no cost to them. The program to transfer ownership from the Lueken family to the employees will begin on January 1, 2013.


He explained his reason for turning over ownership to his employees: "My employees are largely responsible for any success I've had, and they deserve to get some of the benefits of that." He says he received a number of lucrative offers for his business, but he and his family realize what the supermarkets do for the community, and they believe this will be a better deal for them and the 13,000 residents of Bemidji. "You can't always take," Lueken says. "You also have to give back."


In his retirement, he and his wife, Janice, want to travel, and they hope to leave a lasting legacy. Lueken stresses the importance of "doing the right thing" for people, empowering them to help themselves and others.
 

glenn1

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And when those employees can't afford to pay the Gift Tax on the value of the shares, they'll be forced to sell. And when they do, it will probably at fire-sale level distress prices since no venture capitalist is going to want to have a bunch of former employees as partners in running the supermarket.
 

trenchfoot

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And when those employees can't afford to pay the Gift Tax on the value of the shares, they'll be forced to sell. And when they do, it will probably at fire-sale level distress prices since no venture capitalist is going to want to have a bunch of former employees as partners in running the supermarket.

"Bah!! Humbug!"
 

sunzt

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And when those employees can't afford to pay the Gift Tax on the value of the shares, they'll be forced to sell. And when they do, it will probably at fire-sale level distress prices since no venture capitalist is going to want to have a bunch of former employees as partners in running the supermarket.

well, at least you don't need sunglasses in your world.
 

JEDIYoda

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And when those employees can't afford to pay the Gift Tax on the value of the shares, they'll be forced to sell. And when they do, it will probably at fire-sale level distress prices since no venture capitalist is going to want to have a bunch of former employees as partners in running the supermarket.

The gift tax rate varies quit a bit...there should really be no problems with the employess paying the gift tax....
 

sactoking

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And when those employees can't afford to pay the Gift Tax on the value of the shares, they'll be forced to sell. And when they do, it will probably at fire-sale level distress prices since no venture capitalist is going to want to have a bunch of former employees as partners in running the supermarket.

I don't believe there's gift tax involved. I'm not an ESOP expert but my basic understanding is that the company uses its own assets to fund the ESOP prior to the owner leaving and then the ESOP shares are divested as a retirement vehicle. That would eliminate any gift tax ramifications as the disbursements are not "gifts" from the owner to the employees.
 
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That is so uncapitalist it makes me want to throw up. Any true american would burn the place down and get the insurance money and never re-open. What a doucebag.
 

Moonbeam

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I think I would have tried to find the most generous business wise person I could find, among the employees if possible, and give it to him or her. It is rather hard to run a business by committee.
 

MixMasterTang

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I think I would have tried to find the most generous business wise person I could find, among the employees if possible, and give it to him or her. It is rather hard to run a business by committee.

Isn't this the way any publicly traded company is technically run? I'm sure there are store managers, Vice Presidents, etc that will still be in charge.
 

halik

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I don't believe there's gift tax involved. I'm not an ESOP expert but my basic understanding is that the company uses its own assets to fund the ESOP prior to the owner leaving and then the ESOP shares are divested as a retirement vehicle. That would eliminate any gift tax ramifications as the disbursements are not "gifts" from the owner to the employees.

Well the issue is that you have to have the cash to exhaust the tax liability - whether the employees use their own money or use company assets is sort of irrelevant, just because the business likely won't have enough liquid assets for it.
 

DucatiMonster696

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What a disgusting socialist pig.

You're sarcasm is moot.

It's his store. He can do as he pleases with it and that includes giving it away. That is pretty much a tenant of those who value both social and economic liberty.

Then again maybe your collectivist point of view can't see how that the ability to own property and keep the fruits of his own productive labor (aka profit) incentivized and motivated him to start a business. A business which he owns and is now freely giving away rather then having someone in government use the threat of force to dictate to him what he could or could not do with his own property and business which he built. Or worse tell him if he can or cannot own a business in the first place and/or decide if he could benefit from the profit such a enterprise has generated over the years so that now he feels economically secure enough to give it all away.
 
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zinfamous

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Since when do socialists believe in the voluntary giving of charity by private citizens?

I thought you guys were all about using government threats and force to accomplish that?

it appears that juror number 8 has confused socialism with communism.

go figure.
 

JEDIYoda

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I don't believe there's gift tax involved. I'm not an ESOP expert but my basic understanding is that the company uses its own assets to fund the ESOP prior to the owner leaving and then the ESOP shares are divested as a retirement vehicle. That would eliminate any gift tax ramifications as the disbursements are not "gifts" from the owner to the employees.
That was a good explanation....I was thinking something like that might be the case!! Peace!