Supercommittee Discussion

[Zebo]

Stop paying fucking Federal taxes, EVERYONE.

lolz

 

[fskimospy]

This is why we have such a mess today. Obama DID do this and look where we are now. Now the GOP has no choice, politically, to fight back just as hard.

Had Obama started out by working WITH the GOP instead of against them, then they could easily give him some wins as well. Politics is nothing if it is not "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours". But when Obama slaps them on the face...

Obama is not the first to do this, but he could have provided change like he promised. But no, he is more of the same.

lol revisionist history.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

Oh, please.

Dems bent over backwards to bring Repubs onboard with healthcare, but they weren't having it. It's their plan from 1993 in many respects, Romneycare in others.

Obama caved on extending the Bush taxcuts, and Dems in general caved on the resulting debt ceiling debacle.

They caved on the Patriot Act. Caved on Gitmo. Caved on Israeli settlements. Caved on taxcuts as stimulus. Caved on appointees.

Reaching across the aisle is like reaching into a cage with a hungry lion. Repubs have made it clear that all they want is to Beat Obama! regardless of what that does to the country.

How do Dems compromise with "No new taxes!" when federal revenues as a % of GDP are at their lowest point since WW2? Raise taxes on working families? People like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/u...not-quite-in-poverty-but-struggling.html?_r=1

You won't see that on Faux News... Rush, Hannity, Coulter & the rest won't be raving about it, either.

Clearly that woman isn't working hard enough. She needs to get another job and stop complaining. Send her kids to go work in the coal mines.

 

[Jhhnn]

Clearly that woman isn't working hard enough. She needs to get another job and stop complaining. Send her kids to go work in the coal mines.

Yeh- if she just works hard enough, she and the other 100M like her will be rich in no time. Well, provided 14M of them find jobs at all, and another 10M or so find jobs commensurate with their qualifications.

Heck, if we just got rid of minimum wage & child labor laws, the whole family would be working hard all the time, which is the real key to being wealthy, right? Hard work!

What they need to do is pray, pray to the great & benevolent Job Creators! Worship them, and they will bestow their blessings upon you!

 

[bfdd]

lolz

They can't pay the popo to come after your ass if they aren't getting paid themselves

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Hensarling fesses up on committee failure- Dems wouldn't agree to privatize Medicare:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204531404577052240098105190.html

 

[umbrella39]

This is why we have such a mess today. Obama DID do this and look where we are now. Now the GOP has no choice, politically, to fight back just as hard.

Had Obama started out by working WITH the GOP instead of against them, then they could easily give him some wins as well.

Nice revisionist history lesson, shall plonk this new alt, too...

 

[First]

This is why we have such a mess today. Obama DID do this and look where we are now. Now the GOP has no choice, politically, to fight back just as hard.

Had Obama started out by working WITH the GOP instead of against them, then they could easily give him some wins as well. Politics is nothing if it is not "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours". But when Obama slaps them on the face...

Obama is not the first to do this, but he could have provided change like he promised. But no, he is more of the same.

This delivers the lulz.

 

[Zorkorist]

Hensarling fesses up on committee failure- Dems wouldn't agree to privatize Medicare:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204531404577052240098105190.html

Privatize Medicare?! Obama wants to Socialize Medicine, and he got the votes.

I'm pretty sure this wasn't the hold up.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Oh, please.

Dems bent over backwards to bring Repubs onboard with healthcare, but they weren't having it. It's their plan from 1993 in many respects, Romneycare in others.

Obama caved on extending the Bush taxcuts, and Dems in general caved on the resulting debt ceiling debacle.

They caved on the Patriot Act. Caved on Gitmo. Caved on Israeli settlements. Caved on taxcuts as stimulus. Caved on appointees.

Reaching across the aisle is like reaching into a cage with a hungry lion. Repubs have made it clear that all they want is to Beat Obama! regardless of what that does to the country.

How do Dems compromise with "No new taxes!" when federal revenues as a % of GDP are at their lowest point since WW2? Raise taxes on working families? People like this?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/19/u...not-quite-in-poverty-but-struggling.html?_r=1

You won't see that on Faux News... Rush, Hannity, Coulter & the rest won't be raving about it, either.

Obama could have stepped up, and reduced Government, at any time during his tenurship of the USA.

But instead, he chooses to inflict more Government upon us.

-John

 

[cybrsage]

lol revisionist history.

Are you serious? You are pretending the dems never actually changed the locks on the doors to prevent the reps from entering?

This tale has secret videotaping, a staged walk-out, and — finally this week — one side secretly changing the locks on the other.
And everyone involved is a member of Congress.
It's the latest turn in an increasingly acrimonious stand-off inside the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, the House's chief investigatory committee, the panel perhaps best known in recent years for the steroids-in-baseball hearings.
The dispute was months in the making. But Republicans turned up the temperature last week by vowing to force a committee vote on subpoenaing a fresh round of documents in its investigation of Countrywide Financial, the collapsed mortgage giant.
Democrats labeled that a political stunt, designed to embarrass two key Democratic lawmakers — Sen. Chris Dodd and Sen. Kent Conrad — who got special VIP loans through Countrywide.
But rather than taking the political risk of bringing the motion to a vote, Democrats pulled off what appeared to be a stunt of their own: When the time came for the scheduled vote last Thursday, they huddled in a back room — denying Republicans the quorum they needed to take action.
Then things got interesting. Republican staff members had secretly set up a video camera outside the committee room. The camera captured a stream of Democrats leaving through a side door of the very committee room they were scheduled to be in — calling into question Democrats' claim that a scheduling conflict involving another committee meeting prevented their attendance.
Republicans put the video on YouTube, juxtaposing the empty chairs and the Democrats filing out of the room. They put it all to the tune of "Hit the Road, Jack."
Not everyone was laughing. On Tuesday, the committee's Democrats let the Republicans know that their keys wouldn't work in the hearing room anymore. They'd had the locks changed.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/10/dems-lock-out-republicans-literally/

Look...it is even ABC telling the story.

 

[soundforbjt]

Are you serious? You are pretending the dems never actually changed the locks on the doors to prevent the reps from entering?


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/10/dems-lock-out-republicans-literally/

Look...it is even ABC telling the story.

What's this got to do with the SuperCommittee?

Can you say duh-vert?