Super rich see federal taxes drop dramatically

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Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
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You should be paying at least $3,500

Why do you not want to pay your fair share?

It's amusing that you complain about people getting shafted then relishing it when it happens. Instead of realizing that it's a real and significant burden on people (which it is) you come up with "fair share".

So you've decided to focus on that one point. Tell me Dave, why aren't you paying your fair share of 4K a month? Know what? The government you clap your hands with glee when they take away money without any real accountability had placed its basilisk stare on you. When you were bent over and took it up the butt you didn't have sites backing you did you? Oh yes you did. You weren't outraged, right? Oh yes you were. Did you refuse help, hell no you didn't.

Did you say "give it to me harder big boy, I haven't had my fair share". I would have thought not but your inane response leaves a lot of room to wonder.

I'm one of the last to give you a heaping helping of "your share", but seriously this is the time for you to STFU because you can't figure out if you want the government raping the people or not.

Stop slobbering when people get taken by government or corporations and for heavens sake stop being this guy.
 

IndyColtsFan

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It's amusing that you complain about people getting shafted then relishing it when it happens. Instead of realizing that it's a real and significant burden on people (which it is) you come up with "fair share".

So you've decided to focus on that one point. Tell me Dave, why aren't you paying your fair share of 4K a month? Know what? The government you clap your hands with glee when they take away money without any real accountability had placed its basilisk stare on you. When you were bent over and took it up the butt you didn't have sites backing you did you? Oh yes you did. You weren't outraged, right? Oh yes you were. Did you refuse help, hell no you didn't.

Did you say "give it to me harder big boy, I haven't had my fair share". I would have thought not but your inane response leaves a lot of room to wonder.

I'm one of the last to give you a heaping helping of "your share", but seriously this is the time for you to STFU because you can't figure out if you want the government raping the people or not.

Stop slobbering when people get taken by government or corporations and for heavens sake stop being this guy.

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boomerang

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Jun 19, 2000
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The Rich Aren’t Getting Richer
Actual super-wealthy households saw their income decline.


Are the rich really getting richer? That’s a pretty standard line from the Left, a lament usually cited in the course of calling for higher tax rates. Robert Reich is particularly fond of this mode of attack: A recent post of his was headlined, “For 70 years, the wealthy have grown wealthier.” Professor Reich probably doesn’t write his own headlines, but it’s a common enough sentiment for him, and his prose is rich with phrases such as “the super-rich got even wealthier this year.”

He isn’t alone in employing this mode. Take this from an April 7 Salon article: “And surely the rich don’t need that 25 percent top rate in the way poor folks need programs like TANF and seniors need Medicare — about 90 percent of all American income gains since the 1970s have gone to the top 10 percent of earners.”

This is not true.

The numbers generally cited in support of this argument do not actually tell us much about what has happened to the incomes of wealthy households over time. That’s because the people who are in the top bracket today are not the people who were in the top bracket last year. There’s a good deal of socioeconomic mobility in the United States — more than you’d think. Our dear, dear friends at the IRS keep track of actual households (boy, do they ever!), and sometimes the Treasury publishes data about what has happened to them. For instance, among those who in 1996 were in the very highest income group isolated for study — the top 0.01 percent — 75 percent were in a lower income group by 2005. The median real income of super-rich households went down, not up. The rich got poorer. Among actual households, income grew proportionally more for those who started off in the low-income groups than those that began in high-income groups.

That wasn’t even an unusually good decade in terms of mobility. During the horrible, horrible Reagan years, as National Review noted back in 1991, the average income growth for actual households in the lowest income bracket was 77 percent over the course of a decade; income growth for actual households in the top group was only 5 percent during those same years. Of those who were in the poorest fifth in 1979, 85.8 percent had moved to a higher bracket by 1988, and 14.7 percent of them moved to the top bracket — which is to say, the poor of 1979 were more likely to be the rich of 1988 than to be the poor of 1988. The poor got richer, and some of them got a lot richer. Reagan’s record has not been matched — Ronald Reagan was the champion of the poor, as it turns out — but economic mobility has been pretty stable for the past 20 years: About 50 percent of U.S. households move from one income group to a different one every decade, and actual households initially in the low-income groups see proportionally more income growth than do actual households initially in the high-income groups.

When somebody says that that top 1 percent saw its income go up by X in the last decade, they are not really talking about what happened to actual households in the top 1 percent. Rather, they are talking about how much money one has to make to qualify for the top 1 percent. All that really means is that the 3 million highest-paid Americans in 2010 made more money than did the 3 million highest-paid Americans in 2000, the 100,000 highest-paid Americans this year made more money than did the 100,000 highest-paid Americans made in 2000, that the 50,000 highest-paid Americans made more money this year than did the 50,000 highest-paid Americans made in 2000, that the 1,000 highest-paid Americans this year made more money than did the 1,000 highest-paid Americans made in 2000, etc., which is not shocking. But, as the Treasury data show: They are not the same people.