Will the successor of HDTV, be a 2560x1440p? When will be seeing such video format ? at what rate? is H.264 capable of doing such resolution at 20-32 Mbps?
Will there ba a HDTV-2?
Thanks.
Will there ba a HDTV-2?
Thanks.
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Not in the near future.
The move to 720p and 1080i is enough at the moment.
A data rate of 20 - 32 Mbps is huge compared with what is used at the moment for television.
There are technological and economic reasons for not going any higher at the moment
The move to 720p and 1080i is enough at the moment.
A data rate of 20 - 32 Mbps is huge compared with what is used at the moment for television.
There are technological and economic reasons for not going any higher at the moment
AznAnarchy99
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Won't see anything like that anytime soon. TV/Video, unlike computer stuff is driven by the resolution of the media, not the resolution of the hardware. Now what I mean by that is that your typical computer application and/or OS can easily take advantage of a higher resolution, even resolutions that weren't available when the app and/or OS were created. Media, on the other hand, can't.
With that in mind, there isn't any value add to be had by making TVs with significantly higher resolutions than what will comprise HDTV. Without the value add, there is no incentive on the manufacturers' part to create such a television. Furthermore, changing the spec like that would be a real good way to piss off the content providers after they spent time and money converting to the current HDTV standard.
Least that is the way I see it.
With that in mind, there isn't any value add to be had by making TVs with significantly higher resolutions than what will comprise HDTV. Without the value add, there is no incentive on the manufacturers' part to create such a television. Furthermore, changing the spec like that would be a real good way to piss off the content providers after they spent time and money converting to the current HDTV standard.
Least that is the way I see it.
Successor of HDTV
no, i dont think we will see the successor anytime soon
besides, europe isnt even on HDTV. we still got PAL.
no, i dont think we will see the successor anytime soon
besides, europe isnt even on HDTV. we still got PAL.
Originally posted by: TSS
Successor of HDTV
no, i dont think we will see the successor anytime soon
besides, europe isnt even on HDTV. we still got PAL.
roll on SKY HD:thumbsup:
It'll take a long time for even 1080P to be mainstream since the bandwidth required to transmit in 1080P is ridiculously high. Also, HDMI is quite limited when trying to push 1080P and digital audio at once.
1080p is just full HDTV and it is already out and widely available. Nothing will push it until PS3/BluRay hit, but you can at least pick up the displays now
yhelothar
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Originally posted by: TSS
Successor of HDTV
no, i dont think we will see the successor anytime soon
besides, europe isnt even on HDTV. we still got PAL.
lol, I don't think we'll see the successor anytime soon either.
Heck, we don't even really have 32MP cameras yet and they're announcing a 32MP film format
Imagine a 32MP camera that can burst fire at 60FPS :Q
Then again, a simple larger format film, like the 70mm can be as good as 32MP, but I don't think they film that in 60fps.
Originally posted by: eastvillager
Won't see anything like that anytime soon. TV/Video, unlike computer stuff is driven by the resolution of the media, not the resolution of the hardware. Now what I mean by that is that your typical computer application and/or OS can easily take advantage of a higher resolution, even resolutions that weren't available when the app and/or OS were created. Media, on the other hand, can't.
With that in mind, there isn't any value add to be had by making TVs with significantly higher resolutions than what will comprise HDTV. Without the value add, there is no incentive on the manufacturers' part to create such a television. Furthermore, changing the spec like that would be a real good way to piss off the content providers after they spent time and money converting to the current HDTV standard.
Least that is the way I see it.
Ultra High Definition. UHDV offers a resolution of 32 million Pixels compared to HDTV's 2 million pixels.
Picture size of 7,680 by 4320 for a 1.77 aspect ratio (AKA 16x9)
gee good luck buying these in the year 2300 or something, it took man about 30 years to get from just 480i to 1080p unless there is a bandwidth and storage miracle happening I don't think our grandson can see this.
BestBuy carries the hardware now- I consider that widely. Making use of it will require next years tech devices of course.
1080p/30 has the same bandwidth requirements as 1080i/60.
1080p ain't coming any time soon. Bandwith requirements are too much right now, and the consumer demand for it is not very high. For most people, regular 1080i is good enough, thus there is no need to go for 1080p (which IMHO isn't as big a PQ increase as people think).
I would have to see an example of this video quality to get excited about it. I can't imagine needing more than 1080P after seeing it on a 50" HDTV.
I say let's stop worrying about 1080p and let's start pushing networks to broadcast more programs in HD.
nitromullet
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I don't think he's talking about hardware availability, but programming. I've had an HDTV in my house now for almost 4 years, and still the vast majority of programming I end up watching isn't HD simply because it isn't available.
1080p looks great. I can see any reason for pushing that standards for the near future.
I mean most are still on 720p and 1080i now anyways. Lets just let this market stablize for a little bit before we start rolling out the next gen stuff since I really don't see any tangable benifits of improving visual quality for the time being.
Lets let them get good at making this stuff so we can see price drops on all these products.
I mean most are still on 720p and 1080i now anyways. Lets just let this market stablize for a little bit before we start rolling out the next gen stuff since I really don't see any tangable benifits of improving visual quality for the time being.
Lets let them get good at making this stuff so we can see price drops on all these products.
4 models is not a significant market presence
especially when they are generally expensive for TV sets (you can get some nice 1080i sets for ~$2000)
furthermore, there really isn't a 1080p content provider beyond a few demos
1080p (and further) are the future. But, unfortunely, 1080p is certainly not here yet. I don't even think HDTV (720p/1080i) is really "here" though 2006 certainly looks promising.
especially when they are generally expensive for TV sets (you can get some nice 1080i sets for ~$2000)
furthermore, there really isn't a 1080p content provider beyond a few demos
1080p (and further) are the future. But, unfortunely, 1080p is certainly not here yet. I don't even think HDTV (720p/1080i) is really "here" though 2006 certainly looks promising.
Originally posted by: TSS
Successor of HDTV
no, i dont think we will see the successor anytime soon
besides, europe isnt even on HDTV. we still got PAL.
That's when we'll have to wake up all those dark fiber lines we created all throughout the US years ago...if Google doesn't buy them first.
Gamingphreek
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1080P is available, but hardly widely available. A few select high priced units support it.
Additionally, 1080P is not a certified HD standard yet. IIRC it is still awaiting certification. 1080i is the highest "official" HD resolution.
-Kevin
Additionally, 1080P is not a certified HD standard yet. IIRC it is still awaiting certification. 1080i is the highest "official" HD resolution.
-Kevin
UHDTV is 4x HDTV but the problem is things like car chases and other high movements caused motion sickness in a lot of people. But dont expect any of that in the near future. It is at least 10 years out if it will exist.
1080P will become a near future standard that will hold its own for a while.
1080P will become a near future standard that will hold its own for a while.
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