Sunni party quits interim government

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http://english.aljazeera.net/N...-986F-AFB45F516C23.htm
Iraq's official Sunni Muslim political party has quit the US-backed government in protest over the assault on Falluja.

A spokesman for the Islamic Party, Iyad Samarai, said top party officials had met earlier in the day with Prime Minister Iyad Allawi to demand he stop the Falluja offensive and try to negotiate a peaceful settlement with fighters there.

When the talks failed, the party saw no justification to remain a part of the interim government and subsequently quit.

The party's only member to hold a ministerial post abandoned the group, however, to keep his government position.

"The Islamic Party made the decision to withdraw from the government because of the military offensive in Falluja, but I don't share this opinion and decided to quit the party and remain in my post," said Minister of Industry Hashim Al-Hassani.

"To withdraw would not serve the interests of the Iraqi people."

US-led forces have moved deep into Falluja since launching a major assault to retake the city on Monday, as the US-backed government struggles to restore order ahead of national elections planned for January.


Calls for boycott

Earlier, the Association of Muslim Scholars (AMS) an influential Iraqi group, urged Iraqi security forces not to fight alongside US troops storming the besieged city of Falluja.

"We call on the Iraqi forces, the National Guard and others
who are mostly Muslims ... to beware of making the grave mistake of invading Iraqi cities under the banner of forces who respect no religion or human rights," the AMS said in a statement on Monday.

"Beware of being deceived that you are fighting terrorists from outside the country, because by God you are fighting the townspeople and targeting its men, women and children and
history will record every drop of blood you spill in oppressing the people of your nation," the AMS said.

The AMS has threatened to call for a boycott of the poll if assaults on cities in Iraq's Sunni heartland escalate.
Is Allawi beholden to Iraqis or the U.S. military?
 

Genx87

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Sounds to me like they miss the Saddam days of getting everything they wanted.
 

maddogchen

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I wonder what happens when they hold elections and the Shiites and Kurds sweep into power....
 

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more signs of an impending civil war. if the sunni's aren't represented, that country will go to all hell..civil war for sure
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: rickn
more signs of an impending civil war. if the sunni's aren't represented, that country will go to all hell..civil war for sure
Freedom is on the march!
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: maddogchen
I wonder what happens when they hold elections and the Shiites and Kurds sweep into power....

Islamic Republic of Iraq.

hahah, no. If they set up an Islamic government they'll just say hey you know they already got a system set up over there in Iran, lets just join and make things easy. ;)
 
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Federal has a bicameral legislature, controls the army, and a split executive branch while the states make the laws and have there own, constitutionally limited law enforcement. When it?s a unified federal government but people in New York don?t try to change what people in Texas do, then we can all live together without war.
 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds to me like they miss the Saddam days of getting everything they wanted.

If that's what you think, you don't know much. FYI, Allawi, the Iraqi "prime minister", is a shite. After a failed assassination attempt on Saddam in 1978, he fled to London. Saddam tried to get him killed on many occasions in revenge, got close, but failed. Allawi was in a London hospital for a year recovering from his injuries after one such attempt.

Now, Allawi has come back with a vengeance. He's punishing the sunni and the town that is most pro-sunni, Fallujah, for the terrible things that Saddam did to the shiites. Don't forget that the U.S. forces have started this latest assault on Fallujah after Allawi's approval.
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds to me like they miss the Saddam days of getting everything they wanted.

If that's what you think, you don't know much. FYI, Allawi, the Iraqi "prime minister", is a shite. After a failed assassination attempt on Saddam in 1978, he fled to London. Saddam tried to get him killed on many occasions in revenge, got close, but failed. Allawi was in a London hospital for a year recovering from his injuries after one such attempt.

Now, Allawi has come back with a vengeance. He's punishing the sunni and the town that is most pro-sunni, Fallujah, for the terrible things that Saddam did to the shiites. Don't forget that the U.S. forces have started this latest assault on Fallujah after Allawi's approval.

what makes you think this is revenge for what Saddam did to Allawi? It could be he ordered it because of pressure from the US, or it could be because he wanted the militants in Fallujah arrested or killed before the elections, or because he thinks the government needs to retake these towns from militant control in order for the government to function in all of Iraq. or could be other things. Revenge seems the least likely reason.
 

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds to me like they miss the Saddam days of getting everything they wanted.

If that's what you think, you don't know much. FYI, Allawi, the Iraqi "prime minister", is a shite. After a failed assassination attempt on Saddam in 1978, he fled to London. Saddam tried to get him killed on many occasions in revenge, got close, but failed. Allawi was in a London hospital for a year recovering from his injuries after one such attempt.

Now, Allawi has come back with a vengeance. He's punishing the sunni and the town that is most pro-sunni, Fallujah, for the terrible things that Saddam did to the shiites. Don't forget that the U.S. forces have started this latest assault on Fallujah after Allawi's approval.

what makes you think this is revenge for what Saddam did to Allawi? It could be he ordered it because of pressure from the US, or it could be because he wanted the militants in Fallujah arrested or killed before the elections, or because he thinks the government needs to retake these towns from militant control in order for the government to function in all of Iraq. or could be other things. Revenge seems the least likely reason.

No, it doesn't seem like the least likely reason. This guys is a two-timing bastard. And no, the U.S. doesn't want to go in Fallujah. If anything, they have taken the most casualties in Fallujah in combat in all of Iraq.

Read this..
 

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Politics politics politics

Aha, its the Iraq version of the early democratic party campaigns(Kerry grandstanding by joining the ANTI-WAR lefties).

Got Kerry the nomination then he quickly abandoned it. Don't think it will do the Sunni party much better.
 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Sounds to me like they miss the Saddam days of getting everything they wanted.

Sounds like the Sunnis in Iraq are very much like the Republicans here in the USA.

 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Tylanner
Politics politics politics

Aha, its the Iraq version of the early democratic party campaigns(Kerry grandstanding by joining the ANTI-WAR lefties).

Got Kerry the nomination then he quickly abandoned it. Don't think it will do the Sunni party much better.

Terrible analogy.
 

Drift3r

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Originally posted by: Tylanner
Politics politics politics

Aha, its the Iraq version of the early democratic party campaigns(Kerry grandstanding by joining the ANTI-WAR lefties).

Got Kerry the nomination then he quickly abandoned it. Don't think it will do the Sunni party much better.



So the ultra religous Shiite extremist party must be the GOP.