Sun shield to reverse effects of global warming -- with Cliffs!

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Lifer
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I cannot find the full episode anywhere online, it was just 'released' on the 12th, so it probably hasn't been uploaded yet.
Reference site

Anyway, I was watching Project Earth: Sunshield the other day. It was a very interesting concept on how to reverse the effects of global warming. Here's basically how they say it can be done.

-If only 2 percent of the sun's rays are redirected, this would be able to bring global temperatures back down to preindustrial eras.

-The original lens was two inches thick and about one foot in diameter. The engineer's idea calls for 16 trillion lenses to be launched. Aside from the costs of labor and production, the cost to launch these lenses would cost one million trillion dollars to launch, which would bankrupt the world's economy for about 200 years.

-The Discovery Project Earth team was able to scale the lenses down to make them 1 micron thick instead of his current two inch think lenses. They were successful in shrinking the lenses on a sheet of silicon.

-In order to get the sun refracting lenses into space, the team first tried to use a coil gun. They proved that the coil gun can work but it uses over 1000Gs of force, which destroyed the test rocket.

Conclusion:
Based on vague, hypothetical ideas, they came to the conclusion that the sunshield would be able to actually reverse global warming but only if our carbon dioxide levels are reduced.


Cliffs:
-Send trillions of tiny lenses that refract the sunlight on Earth, thus reducing the heat on earth by 2% (sends temps back to pre-industrial levels)
-Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years
-They managed to make the lenses 1 micron thick, down from 2 inches
-They did a test launch w/ coil gun, it theoretically will work, but too much force broke the test lens
-end conclusion is that it would actually reverse global warming, but isn't practical right now
 

polarmystery

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I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

here is why its fucking stuped "Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years "


ruining the rold economy for 200+ years is bad.
 

TruePaige

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*facepalm* Even as someone who knows there is some level of global warming, this is retarded.

Let's just tie rockets to the earth and move it ever so slightly away from the sun!
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

here is why its fucking stuped "Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years "


ruining the rold economy for 200+ years is bad.

It's bad for the world economy as well!
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

here is why its fucking stuped "Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years "


ruining the rold economy for 200+ years is bad.

Yeah, but the government of Mars wouldn't let our economy collapse, they'd bail us out.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

here is why its fucking stuped "Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years "


ruining the rold economy for 200+ years is bad.

Yeah, but the government of Mars wouldn't let our economy collapse, they'd bail us out.

but at what cost? 400 million baby's to eat?
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: TruePaige
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

here is why its fucking stuped "Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years "


ruining the rold economy for 200+ years is bad.

It's bad for the world economy as well!


that too!
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

You are for it after reading the costs? Tell me you cant vote.
 

dmw16

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Originally posted by: TruePaige
*facepalm* Even as someone who knows there is some level of global warming, this is retarded.

Let's just tie rockets to the earth and move it ever so slightly away from the sun!

Futurama did it.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

here is why its fucking stuped "Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years "


ruining the rold economy for 200+ years is bad.

Yeah, but the government of Mars wouldn't let our economy collapse, they'd bail us out.

but at what cost? 400 million baby's to eat?


they have a fetish for human penis. So We'd all have to wack ours off and send them fedex in freezer bags.
 

Drekce

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this kind of thing scares me. There are certain to be second and third order effects that are never thought of until we have already caused some other type of harm. Look into the failures we have seen in human management of forests. Things are done to improve life for one specific type of animal or plant but the result is that many others are harmed. There are simply too many variables to consider.
 

So

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Drekce
this kind of thing scares me. There are certain to be second and third order effects that are never thought of until we have already caused some other type of harm. Look into the failures we have seen in human management of forests. Things are done to improve life for one specific type of animal or plant but the result is that many others are harmed. There are simply too many variables to consider.

I'm sorry, this is BS. By this logic, the only option for humanity is mass suicide, since we can't possibly know the consequences or ever hope to fix everything.
 
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If this would be a "permanent" fix, what would we do if their were a large volcanic eruption and actually needed to heat the Earth?

This is reason #1 why ideas like this are idiotic. People so concerned with whether or not it can be done, they for get to ask if it should be done.

 

Yreka

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Originally posted by: dmw16
Originally posted by: TruePaige
*facepalm* Even as someone who knows there is some level of global warming, this is retarded.

Let's just tie rockets to the earth and move it ever so slightly away from the sun!

Futurama did it.

I just watched that episode again the other night too.. :thumbsup:

Professor Wernstrom FTL
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: polarmystery
I doubt those that don't believe in global warming would be willing to spend any money on the idea. It would be like they are admitting defeat.

I, for one am for it.

here is why its fucking stuped "Would cost one million trillion dollars (didn't make that up), and bankrupt the world economy for over 200 years "


ruining the rold economy for 200+ years is bad.

Yeah, but the government of Mars wouldn't let our economy collapse, they'd bail us out.

but at what cost? 400 million baby's to eat?


they have a fetish for human penis. So We'd all have to wack ours off and send them fedex in freezer bags.

fedex goes to mars!? no wonder it always seems like my packages take forever to get here..