Summer. Shorts. Hairy or shaved legs?

[TheSlamma]

Real men don't shave their legs.
Real men wax

real men have hairy legs.. and arms, chest, back and nose

 

[clamum]

I shave during the cycling season for many reasons. To show that I am "a serious bike racer," to bond with my fellow cyclists, to make patching up road rash easier, and, most importantly, to reduce my drag coefficient. By the way, saving 15 watts in an insane amount. It is akin to moving from a non-aero bike frame to an aero bike frame, or from square-section wheels to deep-section wheels.

In comparison, shaving your arms in cycling did not yield any significantly significant drag reduction. Some (mostly continental and world tour level) cyclists still shave their arms.

"The tests showed that shaving the test subject’s legs reduced drag by about seven percent, saving 15 watts at the same speed. In theory, that translates to a 79-second advantage over a 40-kilometer time trial.

The Specialized employees in charge of the wind tunnel, Mark Cote and Chris Yu, were so surprised that they tested five more cyclists before they would let one of their professional triathletes publicly reveal the findings. The results were consistent: All of them saved between 50 and 82 seconds over 40 kilometers."

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/09/news/news-wind-tunnel-data-shows-shaved-legs-faster_344854

WOW. I have heard that swimmers and cyclists shave their legs and whatnot "to reduce drag" but I've always thought "yeah right, that can't possibly make a frickin difference." Guess I'm wrong. Wow, that is pretty surprising.

 

[Mixolydian]

real men have hairy legs.. and arms, chest, back and nose

Hair won't grow on my chest. :\

 

[pcgeek11]

Yep. There are valid reasons to do some manscaping in strategic places for sure. Legs however I don't see the need to shave.

To the OP. Next time you catch a woman giving you that look, pull your junk out and ask her if that is what she is looking for. This will go one of two ways for you, both of them exciting.

Says the guy(?) that shaves his armpits. LOL

 

[pcgeek11]

Hair won't grow on my Breasts. :\

Fixed that for you!

 

[sportage]

ALRIGHT ALREADY!!!
I get the point.
Ignore the "looks" and bare the hair.
And if this becomes too much of a problem, do not wear shorts.
Ok?

I remember a time when men wearing shorts was considered fem. VERY FEM.
And a lot of Hispanics still think this way.
Go down to TJ Mexico sometime and try and find one hispanic guy in shorts.
It could be 110 in the shade and the men still wear long pants. Usually black.
Seems to be a color issue as well. No shorts. No light colored pants. In TJ...

Now we all have to admit, attitudes for men and wearing shorts has definitely changed over here.
And all of those guys walking around in shorts, with baby smooth hairless legs, you telling me they are not shaving?
But I agree. Go gorilla. And if the ladies give those "looks", I'll just wear my shorts like a plumber with a little crack showing in back, and maybe stick in a flower too.

Thanks for the replies. You can go home now.

 

[Remobz]

ALRIGHT ALREADY!!!
I get the point.
Ignore the "looks" and bare the hair.
And if this becomes too much of a problem, do not wear shorts.
Ok?

I remember a time when men wearing shorts was considered fem. VERY FEM.
And a lot of Hispanics still think this way.
Go down to TJ Mexico sometime and try and find one hispanic guy in shorts.
It could be 110 in the shade and the men still wear long pants. Usually black.
Seems to be a color issue as well. No shorts. No light colored pants. In TJ...

Now we all have to admit, attitudes for men and wearing shorts has definitely changed over here.
And all of those guys walking around in shorts, with baby smooth hairless legs, you telling me they are not shaving?
But I agree. Go gorilla. And if the ladies give those "looks", I'll just wear my shorts like a plumber with a little crack showing in back, and maybe stick in a flower too.

Thanks for the replies. You can go home now.

There is a thing called a body groomer that can trim the body hair down to different levels.

Why not trim it with an electric groomer?

Good thing for me all the women I dated hate to see men with ZERO body hair.

 

[lxskllr]

real men have hairy legs.. and arms, chest, back and nose

I saw a guy once covered head to toe in fur, except for his shaved face. I wondered how he determined the stopping point. It was completely arbitrary. His hair didn't have any distinct thin section.

 

[DrPizza]

"We're not pedophiles! Honestly! We just prefer those of the opposite sex to have a prepubescent look to them; removal of all body hair helps that."

 

[destrekor]

"We're not pedophiles! Honestly! We just prefer those of the opposite sex to have a prepubescent look to them; removal of all body hair helps that."

I don't think it works like that at all. Some think that way, but not all.

It's usually a preference to revel in the beauty of the human form, and frankly, I do agree that body hair is not really a highlight of the human form. It's more or less vestigial, save for hair on the skull. Most do not have enough to provide any function, even most of the hairy folk. Even those adapted to live in the coldest climates aren't hirsute, high muscle content and a fair layer of adipose tissue is a better control against climate than what meager fur the human body can attain.

That is why some of the earlier civilizations so preferred smooth bodies, because it helped cast away the image of human as an animal, and better propped it up that much closer to godliness. Hair was a detractor from the form. And again, I definitely agree with that. I don't shave my skin smooth all over, but I definitely agree that body hair is both an annoyance and not at all pleasing to the eye.

 

[Staples]

Never have. Maybe that is why I am a slow cyclist. Or maybe the bike just sucks.

 

[Jeff7]

I don't think it works like that at all. Some think that way, but not all.

It's usually a preference to revel in the beauty of the human form, and frankly, I do agree that body hair is not really a highlight of the human form. It's more or less vestigial, save for hair on the skull. Most do not have enough to provide any function, even most of the hairy folk. Even those adapted to live in the coldest climates aren't hirsute, high muscle content and a fair layer of adipose tissue is a better control against climate than what meager fur the human body can attain.

That is why some of the earlier civilizations so preferred smooth bodies, because it helped cast away the image of human as an animal, and better propped it up that much closer to godliness. Hair was a detractor from the form. And again, I definitely agree with that. I don't shave my skin smooth all over, but I definitely agree that body hair is both an annoyance and not at all pleasing to the eye.

We've been heading in the direction of neoteny for awhile.

Very little body hair, big heads, no snout....our species is like some kind of weird elongated infant that walks upright.

 

[SP33Demon]

I don't think it works like that at all. Some think that way, but not all.

It's usually a preference to revel in the beauty of the human form, and frankly, I do agree that body hair is not really a highlight of the human form. It's more or less vestigial, save for hair on the skull. Most do not have enough to provide any function, even most of the hairy folk. Even those adapted to live in the coldest climates aren't hirsute, high muscle content and a fair layer of adipose tissue is a better control against climate than what meager fur the human body can attain.

That is why some of the earlier civilizations so preferred smooth bodies, because it helped cast away the image of human as an animal, and better propped it up that much closer to godliness. Hair was a detractor from the form. And again, I definitely agree with that. I don't shave my skin smooth all over, but I definitely agree that body hair is both an annoyance and not at all pleasing to the eye.

Body hair most certainly serves a function, ever watch a mosquito try to land in hair and suck blood? They fly off frustrated. It helps stop the contraction and spread of disease and adds an extra barrier for microbes to enter. Inner ear hair and nose hair help filter out things you don't want in your system. Also, higher amounts of body hair is correlated to higher intelligence.

In a 1996 study widely cited by the media, Dr. Aikarakudy Alias told the Eighth Congress of the Association of European Psychiatrists that higher intelligence -- gauged by academic rankings -- is correlated with higher amounts of body hair on men.

http://www.***********/top_10/entertainment/top-10-things-men-should-know-about-body-hair_4.html

 

[sdifox]

Real men don't shave their legs. They wax :awe:

 

[WT]

Shave one, but leave the other hirsute. Walk around for a day and solicit opinions from passersby. Get back to us with your polling results tomorrow.

 

[destrekor]

Body hair most certainly serves a function, ever watch a mosquito try to land in hair and suck blood? They fly off frustrated. It helps stop the contraction and spread of disease and adds an extra barrier for microbes to enter. Inner ear hair and nose hair help filter out things you don't want in your system.

I guess it depends on the amount of hair you have. I have light arm hair and get bit. And I have a decent amount of hair on my calves (proportionally the hairiest part of my body, save for head, pits, and groin ) and still get bit by those fuckers.

It's a very minimal barrier for all except the most hairy among us, because it's not nearly as effective as it should be.

If hair were properly attached to the evolution of the species, even the strongest and earliest of the Homo genus would be much more hairy, but current wisdom suggests on average they had body hair but not nearly as much as some of the hairiest humans (of course things vary within a species). The rise of Homo should have involved the most important features for the success of future species, and yet we never retained the amount of hair our primate ancestors sported.

Also, higher amounts of body hair is correlated to higher intelligence.


http://www.***********/top_10/entertainment/top-10-things-men-should-know-about-body-hair_4.html

Then I must be stupid and suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect more than I had realized.

And perhaps there is a correlation, but after looking that up more, it was never linked to IQ. Rather, that researcher linked body hair to levels of education, and how well individuals completed degrees of higher precedent (such as Masters or Doctorates).
Perhaps body hair isn't actually linked to intelligence, but toward a certain type of drive, a dedication, or competitiveness.

If you really want to find something curious about what may be linked to intelligence, Satoshi Kanazawa found a small but significant link between homosexuality and intelligence.

 

[Linflas]

"We're not pedophiles! Honestly! We just prefer those of the opposite sex to have a prepubescent look to them; removal of all body hair helps that."

We've come a long way from when my father would tell me to eat my spinach, it'll put hair on your chest.

 

[Safeway]

Body hair most certainly serves a function, ever watch a mosquito try to land in hair and suck blood? They fly off frustrated. It helps stop the contraction and spread of disease and adds an extra barrier for microbes to enter.

My silky-smooth cycling legs are fucking beacons for mosquitos. All you can eat buffet.

 

[nakedfrog]

real men have hairy legs.. and arms, chest, back and nose

Pfft, any nancy can just leave the hair to grow.
Getting it all ripped out in vast swaths? THAT'S manliness.

Real men don't shave their legs. They wax :awe:

Late to the party, are we?

 

[Mai72]

I was walking to the gym with my freshly shaved legs and a bunch of teens laughed at me.

 

[SP33Demon]

I guess it depends on the amount of hair you have. I have light arm hair and get bit. And I have a decent amount of hair on my calves (proportionally the hairiest part of my body, save for head, pits, and groin ) and still get bit by those fuckers.

It's a very minimal barrier for all except the most hairy among us, because it's not nearly as effective as it should be.

If hair were properly attached to the evolution of the species, even the strongest and earliest of the Homo genus would be much more hairy, but current wisdom suggests on average they had body hair but not nearly as much as some of the hairiest humans (of course things vary within a species). The rise of Homo should have involved the most important features for the success of future species, and yet we never retained the amount of hair our primate ancestors sported.



Then I must be stupid and suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect more than I had realized.

And perhaps there is a correlation, but after looking that up more, it was never linked to IQ. Rather, that researcher linked body hair to levels of education, and how well individuals completed degrees of higher precedent (such as Masters or Doctorates).
Perhaps body hair isn't actually linked to intelligence, but toward a certain type of drive, a dedication, or competitiveness.

If you really want to find something curious about what may be linked to intelligence, Satoshi Kanazawa found a small but significant link between homosexuality and intelligence.

Well, it may not even be as much a barrier but more of a sensor/alert system. I have pretty hairy arms and legs. If I don't see the mosquito land on my arm, I feel it almost immediately and I can kill it. The only times I ever get bit = on the elbow area where there is less hair. So over the years I'm pretty thankful for all the little sensors that line these areas, it has also alerted me to ticks crawling around on my legs.

You may be onto something where more hair = competitiveness/certain type of drive/dedication, hence the advanced degrees. I read somewhere that more hair = more testosterone which could equate to more education/degrees than the average person.

 

[SP33Demon]

My silky-smooth cycling legs are fucking beacons for mosquitos. All you can eat buffet.

Yeah, studies also show that type O blood also attracts more than other blood types. Weird but true. I attract them because of body heat (lots of muscle) which is also like a beacon.

 

[TheSlamma]

Pfft, any nancy can just leave the hair to grow.
Getting it all ripped out in vast swaths? THAT'S manliness.

Late to the party, are we?

I'm sure Caitlyn does it.

 

[destrekor]

Well, it may not even be as much a barrier but more of a sensor/alert system. I have pretty hairy arms and legs. If I don't see the mosquito land on my arm, I feel it almost immediately and I can kill it. The only times I ever get bit = on the elbow area where there is less hair. So over the years I'm pretty thankful for all the little sensors that line these areas, it has also alerted me to ticks crawling around on my legs.

You may be onto something where more hair = competitiveness/certain type of drive/dedication, hence the advanced degrees. I read somewhere that more hair = more testosterone which could equate to more education/degrees than the average person.

I think there might just be a correlation to the level of motivation, and not at all intelligence. Many very intelligent people can have low motivation, or otherwise just not care about structured education. Other very intelligent people, and highly creative types especially, are more prone to mental health problems like bi-polar and various forms of depression and/or anxiety, which are also very problematic in the pursuit of education.

I'm curious if body hair and testosterone levels are more often correlated or not, because testosterone may be high and bind to follicles, but the gene expression can be flawed and result in less hair. There's obviously a lot of research to go before conclusive answers are found when it comes to hormones and gene expression in general.

 

[shortylickens]

Yeah, studies also show that type O blood also attracts more than other blood types. Weird but true. I attract them because of body heat (lots of muscle) which is also like a beacon.

In Minnesota the mosquitoes look like bees and they're so desperate they dont care what you look like.