Suggestions for a new case

kornfan71

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[Wall of text ahead. I figured I'd be thorough. :whiste:]

Hello all,

Currently, I have a Cooler Master Storm Sniper holding my computer's guts in. It's a good case, but I'm looking to change it out for various reasons.

I don't particularly care about size of the case, although I'm pretty horrible at cable management (and I just have a LOT of cables), so a larger case with ample room behind the motherboard tray is nice.
Size-wise, the only thing the case would need is to support ATX motherboards.

I'm looking for a case with support for at least 4 hard drives, 2-2.5" and 2-3.5". I'd prefer if the drive bays supported 2.5" drives without adapters. I don't have a preference on whether it's a tool-less design, as long as it has mounts for 2.5" drives. It'd also be nice to have a SATA backplane, like in the Thermaltake Level 10 GT, but that's not necessary.

After my experiences with the hard-to-access dust filters in my CM Storm Sniper, easily accessible dust filters are a must. It's preferable that there is not much in the way of getting to the dust filters. A great example is the SilverStone Temjin TJ08B-E that I used for a home server build. Unfortunately, it's too small to house my build.
This is the main issue that's making my search difficult.

Right now I've got my eye on the NZXT Phantom 630, but there are a couple niggles I have with it, namely the dust filter on the front; you have to remove the entire front fascia to access it. I worry that the plastic pegs that hold the fascia on would get worn out and eventually break with repeated removal/replacement. Having said that, I really love the idea of the rear I/O lighting, the 2.5" mounts behind the mobo tray, and the price is good. My only other concern stems from an issue my brother has with his NZXT Phantom (the original), involving some audio interference if he plugs headphones into his front panel. It's basically unusable. (I use my headphones on a daily basis.) I'm sure they've fixed this issue in the more recent iterations.
Other than that, I really like the 630. If it weren't for those minor issues, I probably wouldn't be looking for alternatives.

I was looking into the Thermaltake Level 10 GT a little while back, as well. It's a little pricey, and reviews on Newegg raised some concerns, including the quality of the latch that holds the side dust filter, and the annoyance of the fan LEDs resetting at boot, among other possible quality issues that shouldn't be present in a >$200 case...

I just wondered if anyone had input about the Phantom 630, or suggestions about another case for less than $200, preferably. (I'm definitely willing to look at cases more expensive than that, but I have my limits. ;))

On a slightly related note, where would be a good place (other than Craigslist) to sell a used computer case without a box?

Thanks for reading, and thanks in advance for any advice you may have!

TL;DR: Looking for a case with easy-to-access dust filters like this, ATX mobo support, 2.5" drive mounting without adapters. Saw NZXT Phantom 630, like nearly everything about it, but I worry about having to remove front fascia to access front fan filter. Suggestions?
 

lehtv

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Important bit of info missing... what hardware are you putting in, including: video card(s) and other expansion cards, PSU, number of drives and 5.25" devices, CPU cooling.

Initially I'd recommend taking a look at Fractal Design Define R4. All 3.5" bays support 2.5" devices and in addition there are two 2.5" mounts behind the motherboard tray. The front filter is easily accessible, just open the front door. Extra goodies include support for 140mm fans throughout and a quiet design featuring sound-deadening foam, blockable fan slots and an integrated fan controller.
 
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kornfan71

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Important bit of info missing... what hardware are you putting in, including: video card(s) and other expansion cards, PSU, number of drives and 5.25" devices, CPU cooling.

Sorry about that. Here's the basic idea.
-Gigabyte 890FXA-UD5, Phenom II X4 955 BE
-Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme CPU cooler
-Sapphire Radeon HD 6950 2GB Dirt3 Edition
-Thermaltake Toughpower 750W Modular
-2-3.5" HDDs, 1-2.5" HDD, 1-2.5" SSD
-2 optical drives (could get away with one)
-3.5" Card Reader

The Fractal Design Define R4 looks pretty good. The thermal performance isn't quite what I'm used to, but I imagine it'd get the job done.
 

lehtv

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With only a single graphics card, the thermal performance is easily good enough. I've got a Define R3 which isn't as good as the R4 thermally, and an overclocked and overvolted 7950. It still runs cool and quiet :)

If you want to optimize the airflow, get a second 140mm front fan (for improved positive pressure and dust control), or a 140mm top fan (for improved exhaust airflow and a couple degrees lower temperatures). The integrated fan controller supports three fans so if you want to control more fans than that you need to use the motherboard or buy a third party fan controller.
 

tracerbullet

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I like my Corsair 550D a lot. Big enough but not too big. Holds the drives you're talking about, plus 4 bays in front for DVD / fan controllers, etc. There are 3 large spots (front, top, sides) for fans with easily accessed mesh filters, plus panels to cover them if you decide not to use them. Lots of spots around the mobo to run cables to the back side where there's like an inch of space to snake everything around. I'm really happy with it and off the top it looks like it does what you're asking... Maybe have a look.
 

kornfan71

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Hey guys,
Thanks for the suggestions. The more I look at the Fractal, the more I like it. Plus my local MicroCenter has it for $90, which would leave plenty of money for fans and maybe a fan controller too.
Having said that, the Corsair looks awesome, and the front door opens the "correct" way given the orientation of my computer under my desk.
This may prove to be a difficult choice. (Feel free to add your input if you think there's another case I should look into. :biggrin:)

As an aside, has anyone ever done anything to add I/O lighting to their case?
 

MoInSTL

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Hey guys,
Thanks for the suggestions. The more I look at the Fractal, the more I like it. Plus my local MicroCenter has it for $90, which would leave plenty of money for fans and maybe a fan controller too.

The R4 has an onboard fan controller for 3 fans. The only downside is that it's a molex connector. I solved that by getting a SATA to molex adapter. The R4 comes with 2 fans. I put them both in front and picked up a 3rd Corsair fan @ MC.

Edit: My case is to my right on the floor under my desk. The door "opposite" me is no big deal to me. My old Antec P180 was the same way, so maybe I'm used to it, but I don't open the door much regardless. I guess if you have burn/play DVDs that it could get tedious. All the IO ports are on top.
 
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tracerbullet

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The Corsair is set up so that the door can open either way. The hinges double as latches. Sorta. But it does open either way. I think its only downfall is price. It's not horribly expensive, but you can get similar cases for less. I decided to splurge because I liked the way you could move around the panels and change fan setups, I expect to have this case for a long time and put multiple builds into it.
 

kornfan71

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Well, I have decided that out of what I've found, the Corsair is the best for me.
The design is great, the dust filters are exactly what I'm looking for, and the price is good.

Having said that, there is a potential issue. I'd plan on having around 6 fans on the case (2 front, 2 top, 1 back, 1 side, or some other combination thereof), and I'd rather they not be at 100% RPM if they didn't need to be. I figured a fan controller like this would do what I'd need it to, but I've seen some horror stories involving smoke billowing out of cases and some fires caused by fan controllers. Uh....I'd rather avoid that.

What causes these people's fan controllers to fail so spectacularly? Is it user error, manufacturing defects, both/neither? :\
 

tracerbullet

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I've been using this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811997078 works perfectly so far.

I have a radiator in the top of my case, and I let the motherboard control those 2 fans via PWM. As for the rest, the case fans, they are all through the Bitfenix.

I've never heard of fan controllers causing any real problems, but I'm sure it's possible. Maybe one particular brand or style is more troublesome, don't know. I've had the Bitfenix for several months now, no issues at all.
 

crazymonkeyzero

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Fractal R4 is a great mid towrr case for pretty much any purpose, I have one and say its awesome, aesthetically pleasing, ergonomic and not to mention silent.
 

aarontpx

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I would recommend any case made by Corsair. I currently use a CM 692 Advanced and a Corsair 200R both are excellent imo. The Corsair definately has a little bit better fit as far as screws and overall function but the CM is no slouch. Plently of room for cable routing on both. I personally am not a huge fan of dust filters (I removed the ones on my CM). I would prefer to just blow out my case. I water cool my cpu so the only heatsink collecting dust really is my video card which is also easy to clean out.