Sugestions On This Setup

[willbemcse]

Hi
I decided to go with this sytem. Need sugestion on board , CPU, Memory.
a) CPU 2.8C or 3.0C . Both of them are pretty easy to OC .
b) Abit IC7-G or Asus P4P800 DLX , Asus P4C800DLX read good reviews about P4S800D (SiS 655FX) Series but its a rather new chipset and doesn't has SATA Raid.
c) Memory Corsair TwinX (1GB) PC 3700. Is anyone running any of the above configuration . Any problems with any of the board , cpu , easy to overclock. Is it possible to get a some kind of adapter which will convert regular IDE to SATA. I want some room to OC and want a pretty stable system.

 

[myocardia]

Looks like you'll have a pretty good system. If you're wanting a max overclock, I would go with the 3.0C, because they OC as high as 4.0ghz on pretty "normal" voltages. The 2.8's max out at around 3.5ghz. And yes, they sell adapters to enable using an SATA drive with an IDE only mobo, but they don't work very well (I hear, anyway) and they still don't allow the drive to use the 150MB/sec bandwidth of SATA, because the data still has to pass through the IDE channel.

 

[willbemcse]

Thanks I also need to decide which board (much stable , easy to overclock) to go with and if the memory I decided to get is good.

 

[LouPoir]

Well - I own the P4S800 Dlx and have owned the P4P800 Dlx. Both top of the line. For your information, the P4S800 is as solid as any I875 M/B I have tried.

IMHO

Lou

 

[willbemcse]

Isn't SIS had way too many problems with their chipset , has anyone uses Abit IC7-G or Max 3 and want to share their results.

LouPoir was there any reason you choose P4S800 Dlx vs p4p, how easy P4S to overclock .

 

[myocardia]

Will, the Abit IC7's overclock at least as well as the Asus P4P800's do. And, from the reviews I read, the Sis chipset doesn't overclock as well (are we surprised?), but is quite stable at stock speeds.

 

[Xemus]

Originally posted by: myocardia
And yes, they sell adapters to enable using an SATA drive with an IDE only mobo, but they don't work very well (I hear, anyway) and they still don't allow the drive to use the 150MB/sec bandwidth of SATA, because the data still has to pass through the IDE channel.

The 150MB/S speed is the ultimate speed rating possible, but you'll never attain that (not with current hardware at least). SATA is faster than EIDE for sure, but the drive speed still limits the technology.

 

[willbemcse]

Ok as for MB I have to choose between IC7-G or Asus P4C 800 . What makes P4C more expensive because of dual raid . Does anyone has any of these boards . Which CPU will give me more for my $$ 3.0C or 2.8C. What about memory Corsair 3700 should be ok right??

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: willbemcse
Ok as for MB I have to choose between IC7-G or Asus P4C 800 . What makes P4C more expensive because of dual raid . Does anyone has any of these boards . Which CPU will give me more for my $$ 3.0C or 2.8C. What about memory Corsair 3700 should be ok right??

The P4C800 is more expensive because Asus boards are always more expensive. They are better quality than the other brands, but not better quality than Abit, which is why I always recommend the Abit. As far as cpu's, the 3.0C will give you a higher overclock, assuming you are looking for max overclock, and doesn't cost much more at all than the 2.8C. And if you're wanting the most for your money, I wouldn't buy Corsair XMS PC3700. If you're sure you want PC3700, OCZ sells cheaper, faster PC3700 than Corsair. Here's a link to it: OCZ Gold EL 2x512MB PC3700 . And Geil has some good PC3500 for $70 less than the OCZ, Geil 2x512 PC3500 kit.

 

[willbemcse]

Thanks myocardia Abit has two nice boards IC7G and Max3 . Which is better as for Cpu I will go for 3.0 C. As for OCZ I never heard of them , Had pretty good luck with Corsair and Kingston. As for getting 3700 , I just wanted a best system , stable which gives me more room for OC right ?

 

[Corporate Thug]

i would buy an IS7 and save some $$$

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: shady06
i would buy an IS7 and save some $$$

Yeah, if you aren't going to be trying to hit 4.0ghz with that 3.0C, then you could just get an Abit IS7, which will give you up to around 3.75ghz, and save you about $80 over the price of an IC7 Max3.

 

[willbemcse]

Hi
Which stepping on a P4 3.0 and 2.8 GHz "C" processor is best for overclocking. How high I can go on IC7G (thats what I have decided to go far lots of good features it offers). Will I see any benefit in using 3700 or no . What are its benefits vs 3500.

 

[smahoney]

I went with the 2.8 and spent the extra $ on better memory to get 1:1 mem ratio on an IC7-G. I run 250FSB without any issues and I haven't really tried to push it yet and run stock voltage for the CPU and 2.7 for the mem at 2.5,4,4,7 timings. I am going to see how high I can get in about a week when I can spend some real time working on it without the wife complainging about all the damn beeping when it doesn't boot right from overly agressive settings.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: willbemcse
Hi
Which stepping on a P4 3.0 and 2.8 GHz "C" processor is best for overclocking. How high I can go on IC7G (thats what I have decided to go far lots of good features it offers). Will I see any benefit in using 3700 or no . What are its benefits vs 3500.

Get an M0 stepping, and some of that OCZ PC3700. That will allow you to run up to about 240fsb at a 1:1 ratio, and alot higher than your processor will run at a 5:4 mem. ratio, with much better timings than PC4000/PC4200 will run at. Then you can spend the money you saved on a Thermalright SLK-947U heatsink, and a 92mm Vantec Tornado fan for it. Watercooling temps, with no water.

 

[willbemcse]

Hi
I have questions on AMD 64, how its faster than P4 3.0(because of 64 bit or faster instructions per cycle) when the highest it can run at 2.0 . How easy it to OC , I know that any chip will be faster depending on whats its been used for .

Need links for different amd systems vs p4 compared. Has anyone built a AMD 64 and P4 3.0 , want to share their results.