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Successor or potential successors to LCDs?

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Anarchist420

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How much longer will LCDs be sold as computer monitors?

From what I read on wikipedia, there were several potential successors (none of them any better than a good LCD that doesn't currently exist), but I couldn't tell which was most likely to win out.
 
it will be OLED(Organic Light Emitting Display) and some phone already used it.

it have superior black level and contrast and infinite view angle
 
wahdangun said:
it will be OLED(Organic Light Emitting Display) and some phone already used it.

it have superior black level and contrast and infinite view angle
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I wonder what they will do about burn in on parts of the screen that are always the same? For example the task bar or widgets....
 
wahdangun said:
it will be OLED(Organic Light Emitting Display) and some phone already used it.

it have superior black level and contrast and infinite view angle
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The D is Diode, not display. They are simply very small LEDs in a matrix (printed with something like an ink jet).

They are superior to LCD because the pixels themselves produce the light which gives you the great black levels (infinite in theory, since there is no back light) and viewing angels.

Many phones and MP3 players have used them for years but scaling up in size has proven very tricky.
 
I'll be plenty surprised if we get affordable and decent OLED monitors in 5 years time. IPS took forever to reach that stage even though it isn't a fundamental change to LCD tech.
 
Yeah I have a giant HD CRT in my front room that's dieing. It has served me well for years. I've been waiting the last 3 years for OLED TVs to come to market. I'll probably just buy a plasma this year.
 
Dark Shroud said:
Yeah I have a giant HD CRT in my front room that's dieing. It has served me well for years. I've been waiting the last 3 years for OLED TVs to come to market. I'll probably just buy a plasma this year.
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My 7 year old dell crt monitor started acting up and i got bold and moved out of 2002 era resolutions of 1600x1200 and went 1920x1080 with a dell ultra thin 23 inch led and wow the space i save.

The wow factor for you will be sweet when you get that t.v i went from like a 24 inch old panasonic crt to a 37 inch and it was nice.

Aarons rentals is trying to suck me in with a 73'' mitsubishi which is mammoth its a dpl but the rental contract of 24 months will be much cheaper then walking into a best buy wanting their 70 inch at $4,800 which i think was a panasonic .

Big t.vs end up being a addiction you always want the bigger better version^_^
 
StrangerGuy said:
I'll be plenty surprised if we get affordable and decent OLED monitors in 5 years time. IPS took forever to reach that stage even though it isn't a fundamental change to LCD tech.
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close, LG, who will have a 55" OLED TV out to the market by the end of this year, predicted 2016 would be the year OLEDs are at prices we expect for current flatscreens

considering computer monitors are considerably smaller I wouldn't be too surprised if we see some higher end models (say the 27-30" range targeted towards professionals) based off of OLED a bit before then
 
Keep in mind, that OLED is of a different tech than what most people think of when they hear or see OLED. In this case, the LEDs are white and the color is produced through filters. I'd like to see more information on the mechanism to change from r, b, and g.
 
skipsneeky2 said:
My 7 year old dell crt monitor started acting up and i got bold and moved out of 2002 era resolutions of 1600x1200 and went 1920x1080 with a dell ultra thin 23 inch led and wow the space i save.

The wow factor for you will be sweet when you get that t.v i went from like a 24 inch old panasonic crt to a 37 inch and it was nice.
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My CRT HDTV is a Sony Trinitron 32" 480/720p/1080i @ 60hz. It's been great for gaming and movies. The built in Sony speakers are really strong, I'll probably miss those the most.

LG & Samsung are both coming out with 55" OLED screens this year. I doubt I'll be able to afford one.
 
That crystal LCD that Sony showed off at CES would make the most sense as far as technical aspects go. If they ever make it to market they would likely be crazy expensive. It works fairly similar to OLED and should really be what we call an LED tv (curse marketing for calling led backlight lcd, led tvs), but unlike how OLED can potentially come down in price because of materials used and manufacturing techniques, the crystal LCD's are going to be more expensive in raw materials and harder to make.

I don't see OLED making its way to computer monitors any time soon though. Currently they have issues with displaying white. And there is far more white space on a computer monitor than on a TV. From what I've read about LG's 55inch though they might have fixed this by adding a white diode.

The huge issue is going to be burn in though. Not only does each diode burn out individually, they also burn out at a different rate per color. If i remember right blue was burning out twice as fast as the other colors. I'm not sure if LG has found a fix for this, but if not it is going to be hard to have a monitor with icons and task bars that don't move burning in.

If the 4k tv's take off it might be the best thing for the pc market. Unless you are a huge blade runner fan though there isn't any content out there for them. But getting some 4000 lines of resolution on a lcd instead of the current max at 2560 that is common to find is probably the best that we are going to see in the pc monitor market for awhile.
 
Most important thing to me is energy consumption and weight. Since I rent, I avoid heavy and bulky appliances like the plague.
 
Dark Shroud said:
My CRT HDTV is a Sony Trinitron 32" 480/720p/1080i @ 60hz. It's been great for gaming and movies. The built in Sony speakers are really strong, I'll probably miss those the most.

LG & Samsung are both coming out with 55" OLED screens this year. I doubt I'll be able to afford one.
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Yeah thats the problem with new flatscreen's usually they got very weak speakers most time 3-6 watters .

I hooked up to my dvr box some $99 logitech z506 5.1 speakers and the difference for such budget speakers was out of this world and even running the front 2 speakers there was a huge difference.

Sony makes some good quality t.vs still their bravia line is very impressive i had a 32 inch 720p for a short time before i got rid of it.

Got back in like october a 37 inch insignia 1080p for $400 on sale but lately you can get a 40 inch pretty much for the same price and with led taking over i am sure sooner or later a 46 inch lcd can be had for $400.
 
skipsneeky2 said:
Yeah thats the problem with new flatscreen's usually they got very weak speakers most time 3-6 watters .

I hooked up to my dvr box some $99 logitech z506 5.1 speakers and the difference for such budget speakers was out of this world and even running the front 2 speakers there was a huge difference.

Sony makes some good quality t.vs still their bravia line is very impressive i had a 32 inch 720p for a short time before i got rid of it.

Got back in like october a 37 inch insignia 1080p for $400 on sale but lately you can get a 40 inch pretty much for the same price and with led taking over i am sure sooner or later a 46 inch lcd can be had for $400.
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The crappy sound is more a consequence of the horrible space restrictions in a flat panel TV than the absolute amount of power to them, but really any set of speakers in a good LCD are there for debugging in case your receiver or HTIB is on the fritz. I have a couple friends I give crap to all the time, it's incredible to me that anyone would spend $1000+ on a TV and not pony up even a couple hundred bucks for a cheap HTIB.
 
Patmage said:
I don't see OLED making its way to computer monitors any time soon though. Currently they have issues with displaying white. And there is far more white space on a computer monitor than on a TV. From what I've read about LG's 55inch though they might have fixed this by adding a white diode.

The huge issue is going to be burn in though. Not only does each diode burn out individually, they also burn out at a different rate per color. If i remember right blue was burning out twice as fast as the other colors. I'm not sure if LG has found a fix for this, but if not it is going to be hard to have a monitor with icons and task bars that don't move burning in.
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They didn`t add a white diode, they are white. And they overcame this issue by using white. That was why I posted what I posted. They aren`t OLED displays in the sense of proper, individual RGB sources. They use color filters instead of the LEDs being the actual color source. This is W-OLED
 
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Railgun said:
They didn`t add a white diode, they are white. And they overcame this issue by using white. That was why I posted what I posted. They aren`t OLED displays in the sense of proper, individual RGB sources. They use color filters instead of the LEDs being the actual color source. This is W-OLED
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That's relatively recent, though, right? Last I remember, they were still trying to fab all colors and having issues with blue LED lifetime.
 
StrangerGuy said:
I'll be plenty surprised if we get affordable and decent OLED monitors in 5 years time. IPS took forever to reach that stage even though it isn't a fundamental change to LCD tech.
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OLED has been in development for a decade. They've gone from cheap 1-2" displays with small colour gamuts to the superior display technology in cellphones.

Samsung uses OLED on its Galaxy S II (4.3-4.5"), Galaxy Note, Galaxy Nexus, and Galaxy Tab 7.7". OLED tech is already being mass produced.

Anarchist420 said:
Anything with burn-in sucks.

Why is OLED better than RGB LED?
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Infinite black (black = pixel is off; no backlight bleed), slightly lower power consumption to LED, better contrast are some of the reasons.

Put a Samsung Galaxy S II next to an iPhone 4/4S sometime and compare the screens to compare OLED to IPS.
 
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