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WhoDeeny

Senior member
January 9, 2002

Liberty & LSD

By John Perry Barlow, co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and
member of the Alchemind Society Board of Advisors

Over the last 25 years, I've watched a lot of Deadheads, Buddhists, and
other freethinkers do acid. I've taken it myself. I still do occasionally,
in a ritual sort of way. On the basis of their experience and my own, I know
that the public terror of LSD is based more on media propagated superstition
than familiarity with its effects on the real world.

I know this, and, like most others who know it, I have kept quiet about it.

Shortly after the Bill of Rights was drafted, the English philosopher John
Stuart Mill said, "Liberty resides in the rights of that person whose views
you find most odious." The Buddha was wise to point out that people must be
free to work out for themselves what is true from actual experience and
express it without censure.

I will go further and say that liberty resides in its exercise. It is
preserved in the actual spouting of those odious views. It is maintained,
and always has been, by brave and lonely cranks.

Lately it seems that our necessary cranks have been falling silent, struck
dumb by a general assault on liberty in America. This is no right-wing plot
from the top. Like most totalitarian impulses, it has arisen among the
people themselves. Terrified of virtual bogeymen we know only from the
evening news, we have asked the government for shorter chains and smaller
cages. And, market-driven as ever, it has been obliging us.

This is what is now taking place in our conduct of the War on Some Drugs. In
this futile jihad, Americans have largely suspended habeas corpus, have
allowed the government to permanently confiscate our goods without
indictment or trial, have flat-out discarded the Fourth Amendment to the
Constitution, and are voluntarily crippling the First, at least insofar as
any expression might relate to drugs.

In my gloomier moments, I wonder if the elimination of freedom in America is
not what the War on Some Drugs was actually designed to accomplish.

Certainly we haven't engaged this campaign because the psychoactive
substances we are so determined to eliminate are inherently more dangerous
than those we keep in plentiful and legal supply. Indeed, the most
dangerous, antisocial, and addictive drugs I've ever taken-the ones I'm
afraid to touch in any quantity today-are legal.

Alcohol, nicotine, and prescription sedatives do more American damage every
day than LSD has done since it was derived in 1942. Each year, alcohol kills
hundreds of thousands of Americans, many of them violently. Alcohol is a
factor in most murders and suicides in America. It is a rare case of
domestic violence or abuse where alcohol plays no role.

Yet I don't hear people calling for its prohibition, nor would I support
such an effort. I know it won't work.

It's not working for LSD either; and it's even less likely to. Lysergic acid
diethylamide-25 is active in doses so small you can't see them. It's
colorless, odorless, and it doesn't show up in drug tests. And you have to
be pretty high on acid before anyone's going to notice you being anything
but extremely alert.

Does this mean that I think LSD is safe or that I am recommending its use?
Hardly. I consider LSD to be a serious medicine, strong enough to make some
people see God or the dharma. That's serious medicine. There are two points
that need making: First, by diminishing the hazards inherent in our cultural
drugs of choice and demonizing psychedelics, we head our children straight
down the most dangerous path their youthful adventurism can take. Second,
LSD is dangerous but not in the ways generally portrayed. By dressing it up
in a Halloween costume of fictitious dangers, we encourage our kids to think
we were also lying about its real ones. And LSD is dangerous.

It is dangerous because it promotes the idea that reality is something to be
manipulated rather than accepted. This notion can seriously cripple one's
coping abilities, although I would still argue that both alcohol and
advertising do that more persuasively than LSD. And of course, if you're
lightly sprung, it can leave you nuts.

But LSD is not illegal because it endangers your sanity. LSD is illegal
because it endangers Control. Worse, it makes authority seem funny. But
laugh at authority in America and you will know risk. LSD is illegal
primarily because it threatens the dominant American culture, the culture of
Control.

This is not a sound use of law. Just laws arise to support the ethics of a
whole society and not as a means for one of its cultural factions to impose
power on another.

There are probably 25 million Americans who have taken LSD, and who would,
if hard pressed in private, also tell you that it profoundly changed their
lives, and not necessarily for the worse.

I will readily grant that some of these are hopeless crystal worshipers or
psychedelic derelicts creeping around Oregon woods. But far more of them are
successful members of society, CEOs, politicians, Buddhist meditation
teachers, ministers, and community leaders.

This is true. Whether we want it to be or not.

But the fact that so few among these millions dare utter this truth is, in a
supposedly free country, a symptom of collective mental illness.

I neither expect nor ask any young person to regard me as a role model.
There are easier routes through this world than the one I've taken. But I do
like to think of myself as someone who defends his convictions. And I hope
to raise my three daughters to be brave enough to own their beliefs, no
matter how unorthodox, and to own them in public, no matter how risky. I
dream of a day when anyone's daughters will feel free to do that.

The most I can do toward a world in which their liberty is assured is to
exercise mine in this one.

Copyright 2002: The Alchemind Society
 


<< January 9, 2002

Liberty & LSD

By John Perry Barlow, co-founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and
member of the Alchemind Society Board of Advisors

Over the last 25 years, I've watched a lot of Deadheads, Buddhists, and
other freethinkers do acid. I've taken it myself. I still do occasionally,
in a ritual sort of way. On the basis of their experience and my own, I know
that the public terror of LSD is based more on media propagated superstition
than familiarity with its effects on the real world.

I know this, and, like most others who know it, I have kept quiet about it.

Shortly after the Bill of Rights was drafted, the English philosopher John
Stuart Mill said, "Liberty resides in the rights of that person whose views
you find most odious." The Buddha was wise to point out that people must be
free to work out for themselves what is true from actual experience and
express it without censure.

I will go further and say that liberty resides in its exercise. It is
preserved in the actual spouting of those odious views. It is maintained,
and always has been, by brave and lonely cranks.

Lately it seems that our necessary cranks have been falling silent, struck
dumb by a general assault on liberty in America. This is no right-wing plot
from the top. Like most totalitarian impulses, it has arisen among the
people themselves. Terrified of virtual bogeymen we know only from the
evening news, we have asked the government for shorter chains and smaller
cages. And, market-driven as ever, it has been obliging us.

This is what is now taking place in our conduct of the War on Some Drugs. In
this futile jihad, Americans have largely suspended habeas corpus, have
allowed the government to permanently confiscate our goods without
indictment or trial, have flat-out discarded the Fourth Amendment to the
Constitution, and are voluntarily crippling the First, at least insofar as
any expression might relate to drugs.

In my gloomier moments, I wonder if the elimination of freedom in America is
not what the War on Some Drugs was actually designed to accomplish.

Certainly we haven't engaged this campaign because the psychoactive
substances we are so determined to eliminate are inherently more dangerous
than those we keep in plentiful and legal supply. Indeed, the most
dangerous, antisocial, and addictive drugs I've ever taken-the ones I'm
afraid to touch in any quantity today-are legal.

Alcohol, nicotine, and prescription sedatives do more American damage every
day than LSD has done since it was derived in 1942. Each year, alcohol kills
hundreds of thousands of Americans, many of them violently. Alcohol is a
factor in most murders and suicides in America. It is a rare case of
domestic violence or abuse where alcohol plays no role.

Yet I don't hear people calling for its prohibition, nor would I support
such an effort. I know it won't work.

It's not working for LSD either; and it's even less likely to. Lysergic acid
diethylamide-25 is active in doses so small you can't see them. It's
colorless, odorless, and it doesn't show up in drug tests. And you have to
be pretty high on acid before anyone's going to notice you being anything
but extremely alert.

Does this mean that I think LSD is safe or that I am recommending its use?
Hardly. I consider LSD to be a serious medicine, strong enough to make some
people see God or the dharma. That's serious medicine. There are two points
that need making: First, by diminishing the hazards inherent in our cultural
drugs of choice and demonizing psychedelics, we head our children straight
down the most dangerous path their youthful adventurism can take. Second,
LSD is dangerous but not in the ways generally portrayed. By dressing it up
in a Halloween costume of fictitious dangers, we encourage our kids to think
we were also lying about its real ones. And LSD is dangerous.

It is dangerous because it promotes the idea that reality is something to be
manipulated rather than accepted. This notion can seriously cripple one's
coping abilities, although I would still argue that both alcohol and
advertising do that more persuasively than LSD. And of course, if you're
lightly sprung, it can leave you nuts.

But LSD is not illegal because it endangers your sanity. LSD is illegal
because it endangers Control. Worse, it makes authority seem funny. But
laugh at authority in America and you will know risk. LSD is illegal
primarily because it threatens the dominant American culture, the culture of
Control.

This is not a sound use of law. Just laws arise to support the ethics of a
whole society and not as a means for one of its cultural factions to impose
power on another.

There are probably 25 million Americans who have taken LSD, and who would,
if hard pressed in private, also tell you that it profoundly changed their
lives, and not necessarily for the worse.

I will readily grant that some of these are hopeless crystal worshipers or
psychedelic derelicts creeping around Oregon woods. But far more of them are
successful members of society, CEOs, politicians, Buddhist meditation
teachers, ministers, and community leaders.

This is true. Whether we want it to be or not.

But the fact that so few among these millions dare utter this truth is, in a
supposedly free country, a symptom of collective mental illness.

I neither expect nor ask any young person to regard me as a role model.
There are easier routes through this world than the one I've taken. But I do
like to think of myself as someone who defends his convictions. And I hope
to raise my three daughters to be brave enough to own their beliefs, no
matter how unorthodox, and to own them in public, no matter how risky. I
dream of a day when anyone's daughters will feel free to do that.

The most I can do toward a world in which their liberty is assured is to
exercise mine in this one.

Copyright 2002: The Alchemind Society
>>



Too long to read, where is the Readers Digest Condensed version? 🙂
 


<< Too long to read, where is the Readers Digest Condensed version? >>



LSD is illegal because it endangers Control. Worse, it makes authority seem funny. But
laugh at authority in America and you will know risk. LSD is illegal primarily because it
threatens the dominant American culture, the culture of Control. 🙂


 
not going to happen

besides, as a member of society who is doing fine, i have a vested interest in our society NOT changing. selfish, yes.
 
I can't beleive I read the whole thing....you know what? I don't get it.


Is America gonna collapse due to the fact that we don't want zonked out freakaziods high on crack running around doing crazy stuff? hmmmm....


Bah. Next!
 
You know what, you're right! We should outlaw alcohol and tobacco as well, just to make the drug laws fair.

Wait, that's not the point that you were trying to prove, right? Oh well, too bad. At least you can't say that I'm closed minded, I just came up with a different conclusion to your essay.
 


<< You know what, you're right! We should outlaw alcohol and tobacco as well, just to make the drug laws fair.

Wait, that's not the point that you were trying to prove, right? Oh well, too bad. At least you can't say that I'm closed minded, I just came up with a different conclusion to your essay.
>>



the man's trying to get you down. do some lsd to get back up.
 
I don't have a problem with de-criminalization (with the exception of minors and other inappropriate people to be making such a choice). I would, however, expect in turn that the resulting crackheads and other people who lose their sense of self-control to drug use, would be the responsibility of the people involved, however, not of the state.
As far as i'm concerned, you should have the right to toke up to whatever extent you so choose, as long as you don't endanger others. However, any consequences and resulting issues (be they health, economic, or any other) coming from your behavior are on you.
 


<< You know what, you're right! We should outlaw alcohol and tobacco as well, just to make the drug laws fair.

Wait, that's not the point that you were trying to prove, right? Oh well, too bad. At least you can't say that I'm closed minded, I just came up with a different conclusion to your essay.
>>


I agree with this view! This would be a much more practical and safe solution than having zombies in the homes or workplace. Make it all illegal so that complaint is stopped cold!
 


<< besides, as a member of society who is doing fine, i have a vested interest in our society NOT changing. selfish, yes. >>



I read that and cringed. That goes way beyond selfish dude. Society is going down the crapper and you don't want it to change because YOU are doing fine? I pray to God you never hold a public office.
 


<< You know what, you're right! We should outlaw alcohol and tobacco as well, just to make the drug laws fair.

Wait, that's not the point that you were trying to prove, right? Oh well, too bad. At least you can't say that I'm closed minded, I just came up with a different conclusion to your essay.
>>

He didn't even respond to your conclusion yet. I say you are close minded, because you already made an assumption on what his opinion of your post is and acted on it.
Sure, ban tobaco and alcohol. At least then the countries won't look so damn hypocritical. I'd be satisfied. However, even though you remove one problem, you make another. Even though alcohol and tobacco is arguably worse then many of the illegal drugs out there, culture hasn't made it seem that way. The major reason why things like marijuana haven't been legalized yet is because the majority of people have been fed negative information about it by the government and believe it. Good luck trying to get that same frame of mind with people about alcohol/tobacco. And let's not forget what happened last time they tried to make alcohol illegal...
 
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