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Stupid Question: What would happen if Europe declared war on the US

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What would happen if it became popular to declare war on the US. A number of countries would be interested in it, but is there any country that wouldn't be hurt by our lack of support. It seems the US has put all this money and support into countries like NK who don't respect or appreciate the US for it, but still expect it to come.

That and I feel like if I played a game of axis and Allies with Japan China Russia France Germany etc against the US, that the US would get stomped
 
well, the US would never be able to sustain a long ground war against all of those countries w/o deciding to nuke them. The supply lines needed to invade all those countries at the same time would be phenomenal.
 
Originally posted by: Kenazo
well, the US would never be able to sustain a long ground war against all of those countries w/o deciding to nuke them. The supply lines needed to invade all those countries at the same time would be phenomenal.
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And the same could be said of the reverse. Europe has let its armies degrade over the years, content with America spending the money on defense. It would require a massive ramp up on their part plus a willingness to get along for a sustained period of time.

Fun for conjecture but totally unrealistic.
 
That would be stupid because they would fall apart almost immediatly w/o our money. We would not get stomped, but it would not be a quick win for us either. We have far more technology and could just send bombers over and just start bombing them, and they wouldn't be able to do anything about it. If they tried bombing us, where would they send them? Where would they be stationed? We would have at least one ally in Europe (or turkey in the middle east) where we could use their bases. Europe's only option would be to use Canada, and Canada would not agree to that because then we would turn our wrath on them.
 
Im not saying we would invade them and try to conquer them. Im saying what would happen if they turned on us. Lets assume Mexico and Canada were on our side (mainly because they would be stupid not to, at least if we won 😛). With new long range bombers couldn't they reach us from japan or england?
 
Good question for speculation! I'm English, and I reckon if Europe (discounting the French obviously, heh) fought a war with America it'd be a pretty close-cut contest. Since no-one would dare resort to nukes in that situation I'd go in favour of Europe, who as a whole would have greater funds and more resources. Not to mention the countries outside Europe who'd want to have a go... quite a lot probably... I like Americans, but I must admit the majority of countries dont.
 
Originally posted by: jjones
France would find a way to insert a declaration of surrender into the declaration of war.
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:Q France? surrender? hahahahaha, well it would be a smart move for them..
 
Most english are ok by me, had one come in to work today and ask for help. After I helped him he said something like "smashing". I sure hope he doesnt break anything on his way out though 🙁


Yeah, I would be more worried about all these little countries that could develop nukes and try to take potshots hoping the other countries would back them.


What is the state of the Airforce of the combined European and Asian nations? Could they make sustained bombing runs on our coasts? I think in the end the middle of the US would be somewhat safe until they boated over foot soldiers etc onto our smoking coasts and sent them inland.


no clue really thats why im asking, morbid curiousity i guess
 
Originally posted by: Richdog
Good question for speculation! I'm English, and I reckon if Europe (discounting the French obviously, heh) fought a war with America it'd be a pretty close-cut contest. Since no-one would dare resort to nukes in that situation I'd go in favour of Europe, who as a whole would have greater funds and more resources. Not to mention the countries outside Europe who'd want to have a go... quite a lot probably... I like Americans, but I must admit the majority of countries dont.
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You are kidding right? You think the U.S. pumped out a lot of crap in World War II? You haven't seen ANYTHING yet. We could crank out soooooo much stuff it isn't even funny. Enough conventional explosives to do as much damage as a nuke anyways.

 
Well i think Britain and the rest of Europe have also advanced just a little since Worl War II... and reckon Europe would prove the victor, but at the cost of bankrupting just about every country in it...
 
You are kidding right? You think the U.S. pumped out a lot of crap in World War II? You haven't seen ANYTHING yet. We could crank out soooooo much stuff it isn't even funny. Enough conventional explosives to do as much damage as a nuke anyways.
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and the waste of space in the thread ensues, gotta love that well thought through planning. "Lets crank out some stuff! oh yeah, it will be so much its not even funny, we gonna dyn-O-mite all of Europe to pieces!! RoX0R b00m
 
Originally posted by: dxkj
You are kidding right? You think the U.S. pumped out a lot of crap in World War II? You haven't seen ANYTHING yet. We could crank out soooooo much stuff it isn't even funny. Enough conventional explosives to do as much damage as a nuke anyways.
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and the waste of space in the thread ensues, gotta love that well thought through planning. "Lets crank out some stuff! oh yeah, it will be so much its not even funny, we gonna dyn-O-mite all of Europe to pieces!! RoX0R b00m
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Originally posted by: HappyNic
Originally posted by: jjones
France would find a way to insert a declaration of surrender into the declaration of war.
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:Q France? surrender? hahahahaha, well it would be a smart move for them..
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"Please find in this envelope our official declaration of war against the United States of America. Please find attached to the aforementioned document our official statement of surrender."

I do not normally bash France, being of French ancestry, but I cannot pass up a chance at a good joke. 🙂
 
Hey, what if SOMEHOW i was able to launch a nuke into Europe and it sparked a war BUT it also created a new race or super-zombies who eat people's brains. Wow, that'd be a sweet war.

Jesus, why are you people discussing something that will never happen.

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-silver
 
Originally posted by: agnitrate
Hey, what if SOMEHOW i was able to launch a nuke into Europe and it sparked a war BUT it also created a new race or super-zombies who eat people's brains. Wow, that'd be a sweet war.

Jesus, why are you people discussing something that will never happen.

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-silver
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Then I'm pretty sure CAPCOM would sponser a all paid trip for a few lucky Winner in their Resident Evil LIVE contest.. Even give you star unforms ,ammo , weapons and everything.
 
Originally posted by: dxkj
What would happen if it became popular to declare war on the US. A number of countries would be interested in it, but is there any country that wouldn't be hurt by our lack of support. It seems the US has put all this money and support into countries like NK who don't respect or appreciate the US for it, but still expect it to come.

That and I feel like if I played a game of axis and Allies with Japan China Russia France Germany etc against the US, that the US would get stomped
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To get back to the topic at hand. If people declared war on the US, that would mean that they'd be attacking the US mainland. To do so, they'd have to get their people over here to do it. At this time, there is no way for a country or countries to get the men and material to the American mainland for an invasion. Even if they did have the capability, they could not do it without detection. Detection means time.

Long range bombers would be detected inbound and delt with most likely before they saw the coast line. Troop and material ships would have to get through submarine pickets, Naval surface vessels, and then Coast Guard.

If they managed to land troops, how many American Citizens own firearms? How many Americans would submit to occupation rather than fight? We may bicker and fight amongst ourselves but you would see a galvanisation of the population to defend the country. Just like Americans and Canadians bash each other, if someone messed with Canada, they'd have to answer to the USA as well.

If say Mexico or Canada was one of the attacking countries and their country was used as a staging area, I'd expect that there would be a preemptive strike by the US on troop concetrations and staging areas.

My opinion, at this time, any conventional millitary invasion of the US would end heavily in US favor.
 
Originally posted by: Richdog
Good question for speculation! I'm English, and I reckon if Europe (discounting the French obviously, heh) fought a war with America it'd be a pretty close-cut contest. Since no-one would dare resort to nukes in that situation I'd go in favour of Europe, who as a whole would have greater funds and more resources. Not to mention the countries outside Europe who'd want to have a go... quite a lot probably... I like Americans, but I must admit the majority of countries dont.
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In order to fight to anything more than a draw, Europe would have to be able to invade the North American continent. Thats just not going to happen, UNLESS Europe starts building carriers to compete with ours, gets a large submarine force that is close to ours technologically, builds an invasion fleet of landing craft. This fleet is going to have to be big enough to allow them to create a beachhead and hold it for at least a week while the ships return to Europe, reload with troops and material, and sail back across the atlantic. All of this while hoping:
A) American carriers manage to be reasonably successful in attacks on the European fleet
B) American submarines dont send half your fleet to the bottom
C) American Land based aircraft dont pound the beachhead into submission nor beat the living crap out of the fleet. And when I say pound the bechhead into submission, I mean we know right where your troops are, and they would all be in range of our entire fleet of B-52s. While carpet bombing using those is going to be messing for whatever land it is over, its going to be even messier to be a grunt on the ground
 
Remember that cheesy 80's movie Red Dawn? Even that wacky scenario was about the closest possiblity. And boy did they underestimate the resistance...like just the high school kids would fight? I'm a father of 2 with lots to lose, but you can bet if <insert foreign power here> came marching down main street, I'd be there with a few other sniper friends. We aren't France...
 
Originally posted by: Mookow
Originally posted by: Richdog
Good question for speculation! I'm English, and I reckon if Europe (discounting the French obviously, heh) fought a war with America it'd be a pretty close-cut contest. Since no-one would dare resort to nukes in that situation I'd go in favour of Europe, who as a whole would have greater funds and more resources. Not to mention the countries outside Europe who'd want to have a go... quite a lot probably... I like Americans, but I must admit the majority of countries dont.
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In order to fight to anything more than a draw, Europe would have to be able to invade the North American continent. Thats just not going to happen, UNLESS Europe starts building carriers to compete with ours, gets a large submarine force that is close to ours technologically, builds an invasion fleet of landing craft. This fleet is going to have to be big enough to allow them to create a beachhead and hold it for at least a week while the ships return to Europe, reload with troops and material, and sail back across the atlantic. All of this while hoping:
A) American carriers manage to be reasonably successful in attacks on the European fleet
B) American submarines dont send half your fleet to the bottom
C) American Land based aircraft dont pound the beachhead into submission nor beat the living crap out of the fleet. And when I say pound the bechhead into submission, I mean we know right where your troops are, and they would all be in range of our entire fleet of B-52s. While carpet bombing using those is going to be messing for whatever land it is over, its going to be even messier to be a grunt on the ground
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Yep. I think it was Lincoln who said no foreign army will ever take a drink from the mississippi without our consent. There's no way Europe would ever, EVER be able to do much against us. They can declare whatever they want against us... we don't need to invade them in another D-day. They'd be forced to try to invade us if they want victory... and that ain't gonna happen. Besides, the financial costs of declaring war on the US would be far to devastating to them for them to ever consider it.

France and Germany want a payout before they support attacking Iraq... that's all they care about. Belgium is an insignificant country that wants it's name in the news. France and Russia are the ones who have benefitted the most from the sanctions against Iraq... they get to buy the cheap, undervalued oil that funds Saddam's palaces while the people of the country starve.

Hopefully once we crush Saddam and set up a democracy in Iraq (like we did in Germany and Japan), we will jack the oil prices up on france and russia and become the oil nazis... NO CHEAP OIL FOR YOU!!

 
1st, it is impossible to invade a country as large as the US, a million man army could not do it.

2nd the US has bases all over europe.

It would be a very short war!
 
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