Stupid question, is the inevitable climate change catastrophe true?

[Gizmo j]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-A2wL2yMI
http://www.newscientist.com/article...=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC#.VaCeIrXjLIU

I just read this report by NewScientist that no matter what people do, sea levels will rise 16ft......and taking drastic action would only prevent an additional 65ft....

This is really starting to scare me.

I live in Los Angeles, California so should I plan on moving to somewhere with a higher altitude or is this study inaccurate? :\

 

[DesiPower]

you know what they say...

Coral goes from see and land loses the bee
That spells the end of humanity!

 

[Paratus]

They're only reporting 1m by 2100. The 5m or more is on a longer time scale. But yes, there's an energy imbalance due to the increasing amount of CO2 in the air. The Earth will warm until it reaches equilibrium and the oceans will rise due thermal expansion and ice melt. Luckily the oceans make good heat sinks and slow the process which is why it will take awhile.

But don't worry, skeptics will be here in a moment to tell you it's all conspiracy by NOAA, NASA, the IPCC and the other 97% of climate scientist because Newsweek once ran an article in the 70's saying the planet might be cooling.

Oh and also because of Al Gore, (he's apparently a wizard)

 

[Matthiasa]

To be fair even if humans were not around there would still eventually have been that level of sea level rise, due to coming out of an ice age, but it would have taken longer to reach that point.

 

[Ruptga]

It's good you recognize this is a stupid question, but next time do just a little googling so you don't need to ask the stupid question and thus feed the trolls.

Here you go. Let's be several times as pessimistic as the current predictions, and set it to 5m of rise. Now look at LA, and realize that's also 85 years from now.

 

[Paratus]

To be fair even if humans were not around there would still eventually have been that level of sea level rise, due to coming out of an ice age, but it would have taken longer to reach that point.

Well the climate forcings were biased towards cooling so it wouldn't be anytime around now.

Plus the fact we are around is kind of the whole point. Adaption and mitigation is going to be expensive.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Don't worry, ocean acidification will probably cause mass famine long before the waters rise to cover us all

 

[Murloc]

the climate changes with or without us, according to scientists we're making it worse (for us, it's all relative to us, life in general will adapt to anything really) with CO2.

Still, it does change and we have to adapt. But change comes slowly. Ice ages come over thousands of years.

 

[boomerang]

Relax, we're on the cusp of a mini ice age.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...un-sleep-2020-cause-temperatures-plummet.html

Oh, and here's something to file away in your memory bank. 1 cubit = 45.72 centimeters.

 

[unokitty]

Malthusian catastrophe

Famine seems to be the last, the most dreadful resource of nature. The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world.
—Malthus 1798.

Since 1798, its been popular to predict the end of the human race.

You dead yet?

Uno

 

[TwiceOver]

Eventually, yes. We all die. Tomorrow? No, probably not.

 

[Newell Steamer]

No, because the forum with posters who have trouble with gift cards knows better than scientists.

 

[unokitty]

No, because the forum with posters who have trouble with gift cards knows better than scientists.

“Our children will enjoy in their homes electrical energy too cheap to meter..."
-- 1954, Lewis L. Strauss, Chairman of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission.

Still bitterly clinging to that 1950's nuclear dream of 'electricity to cheap to meter?'

Uno

 

[Mixolydian]

Eventually, yes. We all die. Tomorrow? No, probably not.

I, for one, welcome human extinction.

 

[brainhulk]

Don't care. I'm sure later generations will take care of it.

 

[mmntech]

It's interesting that saving the earth always seems to cost me a lot of money for very little end result. That's all I'll say on this subject. Climate change has become so hyper-politicized that I don't trust either side.

 

[boomerang]

Climate change has become so hyper-politicized that I don't trust either side.

Exactly :thumbsup:

 

[Greenman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r-A2wL2yMI
http://www.newscientist.com/article...=SOC&utm_campaign=hoot&cmpid=SOC#.VaCeIrXjLIU

I just read this report by NewScientist that no matter what people do, sea levels will rise 16ft......and taking drastic action would only prevent an additional 65ft....

This is really starting to scare me.

I live in Los Angeles, California so should I plan on moving to somewhere with a higher altitude or is this study inaccurate? :\

I'm sure it's all pier reviewed science, so it has to be correct. The pier review process is flawless and the results are beyond question.

 

[Paratus]

I'm sure it's all pier reviewed science, so it has to be correct. The pier review process is flawless and the results are beyond question.

Well I wouldn't trust "pier"'review either. What does a pier know?

I might however trust "peer" review.

 

[futurefields]

learn to swim

 

[Greenman]

Well I wouldn't trust "pier"'review either. What does a pier know?

I might however trust "peer" review.

My bad. Piers are something I deal with regularly, it's auto pilot typing.
Thankfully the error was picked up during the peer review process. Incontrovertible proof that the system works.

 

[Paratus]

My bad. Piers are something I deal with regularly, it's auto pilot typing.
Thankfully the error was picked up during the peer review process. Incontrovertible proof that the system works.

Ok I lol'd.

 

[boomerang]

That's a nice illustration of the process. But where are the politician's that fund all this research and review? You know, the one's that are paying for the work and expect the outcome they paid for and desire? I don't see them in that illustration. You don't believe that politics isn't present in the process, do you? Everything I eat, drink, breath, drive, sleep on, wear, sit on and watch has politics involved in it to one degree or another. Surely the peer review process does too.

 

[Paratus]

That's a nice illustration of the process. But where are the politician's that fund all this research and review? You know, the one's that are paying for the work and expect the outcome they paid for and desire? I don't see them in that illustration. You don't believe that politics isn't present in the process, do you? Everything I eat, drink, breath, drive, sleep on, wear, sit on and watch has politics involved in it to one degree or another. Surely the peer review process does too.

Well you probably won't see politics in that inforaphic of the peer review process for climate change. You see the republicans generally block funding before the research ever makes it to the peer review process.

Congress blocks Pentagon from researching national security implications of climate change

House proposses massive cuts to NASA Earth science budget

You see the scientific method and peer review process are the best way we have to not lie to ourselves. So many politicians feel it's better to not look for the answers in the first place.

 

[boomerang]

Well you probably won't see politics in that inforaphic of the peer review process for climate change. You see the republicans generally block funding before the research ever makes it to the peer review process.

Congress blocks Pentagon from researching national security implications of climate change

House proposses massive cuts to NASA Earth science budget

You see the scientific method and peer review process are the best way we have to not lie to ourselves. So many politicians feel it's better to not look for the answers in the first place.

Yeah, I can't find anybody willing to buy me a pony so I know how it feels.