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Stupid home repair question

XMan

XMan

Lifer
My back door has a window in it. It has a plastic frame around it to give the single pane of glass the appearance of being six smaller panes. The door is white, but over time the plastic frame has changed color in the sunlight to no longer match. My wife (bless her heart) tried to take the frame off while I was at work to paint it but it was caulked to the door and she ended up breaking it.

I can epoxy it back together if need be but I'd really rather replace the darn thing. The guy at Menard's told me such pieces aren't available and I'd have to replace the whole door (riiiiiiiiiight). It's a solid core, 36" steel door and I'm not going to pay a couple of hundred bucks for a new door when there's not really anything wrong with this one.

Anybody ever have to replace one of these window frames? Where'd you get one? I've tried looking on Google but I think the whole "exterior door window frame" search string freaks the Googlebot out. I'm not getting much from it.
 
Go to your local glass dealer and have a piece custom cut. I've done it before, its a little more expensive than your standard size stuff, but worth it if its beteween that and a whole door replacement
 
Originally posted by: TheInternet1980
The answer is a chainsaw and a tub of vaseline, boiled then left to cool to room temperature.
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No, actually the answer is :camera: of wife. Bless her heart.
 
Door parts are usually custom made by the manufacturer, they're not interchangeable. Your only hope would be to find the manufacturer of the door and order parts from the company. Otherwise, you need a new door.

The guy at Menard's didn't lie, he was correct.
 
Originally posted by: XMan
My back door has a window in it. It has a plastic frame around it to give the single pane of glass the appearance of being six smaller panes. The door is white, but over time the plastic frame has changed color in the sunlight to no longer match. My wife (bless her heart) tried to take the frame off while I was at work to paint it but it was caulked to the door and she ended up breaking it.

I can epoxy it back together if need be but I'd really rather replace the darn thing. The guy at Menard's told me such pieces aren't available and I'd have to replace the whole door (riiiiiiiiiight). It's a solid core, 36" steel door and I'm not going to pay a couple of hundred bucks for a new door when there's not really anything wrong with this one.

Anybody ever have to replace one of these window frames? Where'd you get one? I've tried looking on Google but I think the whole "exterior door window frame" search string freaks the Googlebot out. I'm not getting much from it.
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Why would anyone bother making a solid core steel door with a big window in the middle of it? Might as well make it out of cardboard.
 
The frame is broken not the glass... at least that's what I understood..

maybe you can fabricate one pretty quick out of some trim/miter-saw?
 
Originally posted by: njmodi
The frame is broken not the glass... at least that's what I understood..

maybe you can fabricate one pretty quick out of some trim/miter-saw?
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I must have read it too fast, I thought he meant the glass was broken
 
A half-decent carpenter should be able to custom make a trim piece for you for a lot less than the cost of a new door. Then just paint the wood to match and use some caulk or epoxy to mount it to the door.

ZV
 
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Originally posted by: XMan
My back door has a window in it. It has a plastic frame around it to give the single pane of glass the appearance of being six smaller panes. The door is white, but over time the plastic frame has changed color in the sunlight to no longer match. My wife (bless her heart) tried to take the frame off while I was at work to paint it but it was caulked to the door and she ended up breaking it.

I can epoxy it back together if need be but I'd really rather replace the darn thing. The guy at Menard's told me such pieces aren't available and I'd have to replace the whole door (riiiiiiiiiight). It's a solid core, 36" steel door and I'm not going to pay a couple of hundred bucks for a new door when there's not really anything wrong with this one.

Anybody ever have to replace one of these window frames? Where'd you get one? I've tried looking on Google but I think the whole "exterior door window frame" search string freaks the Googlebot out. I'm not getting much from it.
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Why would anyone bother making a solid core steel door with a big window in the middle of it? Might as well make it out of cardboard.
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yeah houses should get rid of all those windows too...

to the OP they don't sell that kind of stuff pre-made really. If you had to post about this he Menard's guy is probably right that a new door is in your best interests.

 
Originally posted by: Toasthead
Why would anyone bother making a solid core steel door with a big window in the middle of it? Might as well make it out of cardboard.
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Hmmm....maybe to let in some light? 😕

If security is a concern, they make these things called deadbolt locks. :thumbsup:


 
Buy some trim that is appropriate. Cut it to size. Prefit it all into the window. Then use construction adhesive to adhere it to the glass.
 
I love Lowe's. They had the piece I needed for $29.

Sometimes I don't even know why I bother with Menard's. They have a great lumber yard by the inside is so disorganized it's not even funny.
 
I know exactly what you're talking about. And, that piece is supposed to be painted!! Your door arrives only primed. The plastic part over the window is susceptible to UV (or something) & needs to be painted soon after installing it.

So, if you find a replacement, paint it, and the door, like you're supposed to. If you can't find a replacement, then carefully epoxy it back together. No one will see the epoxy, because you're supposed to paint it!
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I know exactly what you're talking about. And, that piece is supposed to be painted!! Your door arrives only primed. The plastic part over the window is susceptible to UV (or something) & needs to be painted soon after installing it.

So, if you find a replacement, paint it, and the door, like you're supposed to. If you can't find a replacement, then carefully epoxy it back together. No one will see the epoxy, because you're supposed to paint it!
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BUT WAIT!!! Is he supposed to paint it?
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I know exactly what you're talking about. And, that piece is supposed to be painted!! Your door arrives only primed. The plastic part over the window is susceptible to UV (or something) & needs to be painted soon after installing it.

So, if you find a replacement, paint it, and the door, like you're supposed to. If you can't find a replacement, then carefully epoxy it back together. No one will see the epoxy, because you're supposed to paint it!
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The people we bought our house from painted the door, but not the trim. Kind of weird. I'll probably just paint the whole thing when I get the piece.
 
sounds cheaply built.
anyways, just remake something out of wood pieces..forget plastic. wtf is with plastic..
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
I know exactly what you're talking about. And, that piece is supposed to be painted!! Your door arrives only primed. The plastic part over the window is susceptible to UV (or something) & needs to be painted soon after installing it.

So, if you find a replacement, paint it, and the door, like you're supposed to. If you can't find a replacement, then carefully epoxy it back together. No one will see the epoxy, because you're supposed to paint it!
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On a related note, a lot of the houses in my neighborhood have a half moon window in the master bedroom, and there is a curved piece of trim that goes on the exterior. Most of them have bare spots because they were never painted. They just put them up with the coat of primer that they probably came with from the factory. A lot of houses with otherwise beautiful exteriors have bare spots on this piece of trim.
 
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