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Stupid freshmen college tricks.

Hayabusa Rider

Hayabusa Rider

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Time to rant about college freshmen.

My wife gave an assignment. BTW, she has a doctorate in molecular genetics and is a professor at one of the many Boston area private colleges. Not a dumb chick. Anyway, as usual there was extensive internet plagiarism. This time the student got information from the lab where my wife did her post doc. 😛

My wife is more generous than I. I would have just given a zero for the whole thing, but she is going to give the student one more chance. Seems many high school teachers are teaching this acceptable "research". Apparently you can copy and paste, as long as you cite the site. Ridiculous. This is meant to be ORIGINAL work.

Damn college kids. 😛
 
Man, if I were ever a college prof, I would have the mother****ing cleanest car you have ever seen. Because if I caught someone doing that they'd be tonguewashing my car for a year. Unless it were a hot chick... 😉
 
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Seems many high school teachers are teaching this acceptable "research". Apparently you can copy and paste, as long as you cite the site. Ridiculous. This is meant to be ORIGINAL work.

Damn college kids. 😛
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Not at mine, they give you a zero for that. Someone I know recently got a zero for copying "many people died".
 
What class is it for?

I mean, as long as you don't cut and paste entire paragraphs, I don't see what the problem is with quoting a few sentences, as long as you provide credit.
 
Websites exist that cross-index .doc files against many internet searches. Usually they're very effective.
And yeah, that kid should be tossed. However, getting tossed for "many people died." is ridiculous.
 
Originally posted by: Xiety
sometimes professors give such dumb assignments, i don't blame those poor freshmen.
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Sometimes I agree, but isn't really in their best interests to not go into a genetics class as a history major electively, then not do the work required. Certainly when a professor offers to meet with each student individually to go over the assignment it is not prudent to be the only one to make an appointment and blow off the prof without letting them know you won't be there.

Poor choice on her part, but she is the one who will fail. No doubt she will go on some internet board and complain how mean her bio prof is

😕
 
Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Seems many high school teachers are teaching this acceptable "research". Apparently you can copy and paste, as long as you cite the site. Ridiculous. This is meant to be ORIGINAL work.

Damn college kids. 😛
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Not at mine, they give you a zero for that. Someone I know recently got a zero for copying "many people died".
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Did he write it in quotes, with a citation?
 
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
What respectable university wouldn't immediately expel said student?
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He just said he was citing all work, not passing it off as his own. However, there was no original content.
 
MEh... it's a paper... who cares. Most of the papers are just time wasters anyways. The real learning experience is in the lab and during the lecture.
 
Originally posted by: Mallow
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
What respectable university wouldn't immediately expel said student?
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He just said he was citing all work, not passing it off as his own. However, there was no original content.
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Then, I would have to disagree. That would not be plagirism. Properly citing work is never plagirism. Your problem is that this student only quoted and cited work from others, he/she did not introduce any thought of their own (including summaries?)

Grade it appropriately. If the breakdown is 10% research, 10% grammar, 20% summary, 70% conjecture and conclusion than this paper should probably qualify for 10% (if all the research was appropriate).
 
Originally posted by: AvesPKS
Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Seems many high school teachers are teaching this acceptable "research". Apparently you can copy and paste, as long as you cite the site. Ridiculous. This is meant to be ORIGINAL work.

Damn college kids. 😛
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Not at mine, they give you a zero for that. Someone I know recently got a zero for copying "many people died".
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Did he write it in quotes, with a citation?
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No, it was about a natural disaster. I think that falls under facts.
 
plagiarism

n 1: a piece of writing that has been copied from someone else and is presented as being your own work 2: the act of plagiarizing; taking someone's words or ideas as if they were your own



So by the definition, it is acceptable as long as you cite.
 
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