Stupid Brother?

leinadM

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Ok, my brother is planning to buy the geforceFX card when it comes out. I personally think that it's stupid to spend $500 on a video card (unless you have the money); especially when new cards come out all the time, and they are basically out of date in a year (or less). I think he should just get a Radeon 9700, instead of spending so much on the gefroceFX. What do you guys think?
 

PCHPlayer

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If he has the money to burn why worry?
I like to stay a step or two behind the technology curve to save $$$, but if I had the money....
 

Dacalo

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he should just purchase radeon 9700, because the card now is bottlenecked by the CPUs. Its potential has not been tapped yet.

With the money he has left over, he should use that to upgrade other parts or better yet, get a faster processor.

EDIT: I have P4 2.66ghz with radeon 9700, and i am not even close to the cards peak
 

leinadM

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Originally posted by: PCHPlayer
If he has the money to burn why worry?
I like to stay a step or two behind the technology curve to save $$$, but if I had the money....

That's my point, he really doesn't have $500 to spend on a video card.
 

tenoc

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Don't worry.

It'll be a while before he can spend the money he doesn't have! ;)
 

leinadM

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Originally posted by: tenoc
Don't worry.

It'll be a while before he can spend the money he doesn't have! ;)

heheh, he may have the money...but if he spends it on the card, he'll be broke :D
 

AnAndAustin

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;) I fully agree with PCHPlayer, even if you have the money it really makes no sense to buy the top offerings, wait 6 months and get the same thing for half the price. Key examples being the GF3, GF4TI4600, P4 2.53ghz and the previous top end AthlonXP's. IMHO your bro should spring for no more than a Rad9500PRO and ensure his CPU, RAM etc are all up to speed. Wait 6-12 months before shelling out fora GeForce FX, that's my belief anyway but I am VERY thankful there are people buying the top kit!
 

leinadM

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Originally posted by: AnAndAustin
;) I fully agree with PCHPlayer, even if you have the money it really makes no sense to buy the top offerings, wait 6 months and get the same thing for half the price. Key examples being the GF3, GF4TI4600, P4 2.53ghz and the previous top end AthlonXP's. IMHO your bro should spring for no more than a Rad9500PRO and ensure his CPU, RAM etc are all up to speed. Wait 6-12 months before shelling out fora GeForce FX, that's my belief anyway but I am VERY thankful there are people buying the top kit!

Yep, I agree.
 

DoubleL

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Is it stupid to buy a Ti4600, Is it stupid to buy a 9700 pro, I know they will be people come to me and want to change out their 9700 pro's for the FX,
 

leinadM

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Originally posted by: DoubleL
Is it stupid to buy a Ti4600, Is it stupid to buy a 9700 pro, I know they will be people come to me and want to change out their 9700 pro's for the FX,

Buying an FX when you have a 9700 pro? lol now that's what I call really stupid
 

EdipisReks

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why is that stupid? you might not agree with it, but some people want to have the very top of the line all the time. besides, they can sell their previous top of the line card and get much of the money for the new component back in the sale. it's a sign of faulty reasoning to call something stupid just because you don't agree with it.
 

Killrose

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I guess the real question here is what kind of computer does the brother have? If he has a 1.2gig, pc133 based rig, forget the FX. That would be one hell of a waste. But if he's running above 2.5gig and DDR AND overclocking all that, then yeah go for it.
 

kadajawi

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yeah, I guess when running THGs hand selected P4 3.06 HT OCed to 4.1 GHz in some special freezing case with 1 gig of Rambus the GF FX may make sense... if you have a 22" TFT or a similar high end CRT.

What system does your brother has? But its no use buying it if he's broke after that anyway... just don't help him out with money when he does it... and tell everyone not to do so too... then he'll see where he gets food from :D
 

railer

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I guess the 'stupid' part comes into play because you're spending A LOT of money a performance increase that is noticible in benchmarks only. If you buy top of the line, you will NEVER get anywhere near the money that you put into it back out when you try to sell it. You're gonna buy an FX when it first comes out, then sell it in 4-6 months when a faster ATI card comes out? OK...but you're going to get HOSED in the transaction. You might as well give your money to the homeless if you're going to waste it like that. Nobody would call that stupid....
 

EdipisReks

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when the 9700pro came out, it was noticeably faster than the geforce4 ti4600 in real world situations. when the geforce4 ti4600 came out, it was noticeably faster than the geforce3 ti500 in real world situations. when the geforce3 came out, it was noticeably faster than the geforce2 ultra in real world situations (as soon as the driver situation was ironed out). what am i getting at? the idea that brand new, top of the line vid cards are only faster in benchmarks is BS.
 

kadajawi

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hmm, I think he meant that it is not really noticably faster usually. Like I don't give a f... if UT2003 runs with 170 instead of 100 fps. Ok, so it IS faster... but then I think I can live with the 100 fps already. LATER games will demand more from the hardware, and THEN the difference will be more like 20 to 40 fps... THAT difference you will notice. You will see a difference in benchmarks, and yes, it is a lot. BUT: The difference doesn't matter because previously it ran at more than ok framerates already. You can wait the few months until prices drop, games which demand so much from the hardware that with the "old" card the game is unplayable won't apear in that time.
 

kylebisme

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well for instance i have a little 1.6ghz system that was running a gefoce3 when i desided to get a new video card. i could have got a geforce4ti 4600 or something but i sprung for the brand new 9700pro and got a gameing expericance unavalable on any other card at the time and still not matched today. buying the hot new card off the shelf has defenatly been worth it to me but then again i tend to only buy every other generation. as for if the fx will realy be worth what it is going to sell for, it is hard to say untell the card realy comes out.
 

railer

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what kadajawi said.
The difference is in benchmarks only.
"ooh ohh I'm getting 190 fps instead of 150"
big deal. I wish peeps would just give their money to me if they're going to waste it.