Study shows that Medical Marijuana states have fewer traffic fatalities

[cybrsage]

I do. I think all substances should be legal.

Me too.

Then you are both idiots. Society cannot abide with allowing people to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences to society.

 

[cybrsage]

Or at least decriminialize them. Who appointed the gov't as the designated adult babysitter?

The voters of the country did.

 

[Mursilis]

Then you are both idiots. Society cannot abide with allowing people to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences to society.

And what are those consequences?

 

[actuarial]

Then you are both idiots. Society cannot abide with allowing people to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences to society.

Society also can't function when it imprisons are huge percentage of their population, and creates barriers for people who were ever imprisoned from leading a successful life.

I don't think heroine should be legalized, but I DO think the punishments should change.

You should never go to jail or get a criminal record for simple possession. Trafficking should be the only crime. Those who would have previously been charged with possession should be sent to rehab and have no criminal record.

 

[bfdd]

Then you are both idiots. Society cannot abide with allowing people to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences to society.

I am a free man, I am no ones slave and this includes "society". Who do you think you are talking to?

Also, let people make their mistakes on drugs THEN punish them. Just slamming some dope or dropping some acid doesn't guarantee someone is going to go commit crimes, but if they do it should carry a harsher penalty. Stop being such an asshole who wants to control aspects of peoples lives and let them fuck up and your society can then punish them for it.

 

[woolfe9999]

I'm fine with the legalization of pot (heavily taxed), but this study seems pretty silly. Don't see how they can determine a causal effect here. Won't stop potheads from acting like it's as true as quantum physics though.

The study may not prove the causative link that de-criminalizing pot reduces traffic fatalities, but at the very least it tends to refute the argument that it would increase them.

 

[woolfe9999]

I am a free man, I am no ones slave and this includes "society". Who do you think you are talking to?

Also, let people make their mistakes on drugs THEN punish them. Just slamming some dope or dropping some acid doesn't guarantee someone is going to go commit crimes, but if they do it should carry a harsher penalty. Stop being such an asshole who wants to control aspects of peoples lives and let them fuck up and your society can then punish them for it.

If he's half smart, his response is going to be that punishing them after the fact won't help the victim.

I don't agree with drug prohibition, especially not for pot, so I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

 

[ElFenix]

Then you are both idiots. Society cannot abide with allowing people to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences to society.

those consequences mostly consisting of the cost of locking people up

 

[Oyeve]

Wait, I thought weedwackers basically just chilled out and dont drive until they wake up.

 

[bfdd]

If he's half smart, his response is going to be that punishing them after the fact won't help the victim.

I don't agree with drug prohibition, especially not for pot, so I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

Victims are hardly ever helped after the fact regardless of drugs involved or not.

 

[woolfe9999]

Victims are hardly ever helped after the fact regardless of drugs involved or not.

Yes, and thus the point would be to prevent the crime before it happens.

I happen to think that legalizing drugs would actually reduce violent crime BTW. Among other things, it's a crime prevention measure.

 

[QuantumPion]

Do we need a logic reminder that correlation is not causation?

/thread.

 

[TechBoyJK]

So you want to legalize cocaine, heroin, etc?

When the stuff is readily available, it's smarter and safer to legalize and regulate it. Pay taxes on it, regulate the industry, etc.

You know if caffiene was pushed underground, people'd probably start getting dirty/dangerous amounts of caffiene too.

Just because things are legal, doesn't mean everyone is going to run out and do it.

Legal heroin? I'm not going to do it. But at least if it were legal, I could look at the package, see my dose, see where it came from, etc. This will greatly, GREATLY reduce the risk of OD. Most people that OD on drugs don't do it on purpose. They do 10 lines of some crappy coke one weekend, and think they can handle 10 lines of pure stuff the next. Worse yet, they can't even tell the difference between the bad and good, and have no idea 1 line of the good will do the same as 10 lines of the bad stuff from the previous weekend. So when they do 10 lines of the good stuff, their heart explodes.

Imagine an unregulated coffee industry. Can you imagine not knowing if your cup of coffee had 200mg of caffeine or 20000mg?

 

[TechBoyJK]

Then you are both idiots. Society cannot abide with allowing people to do whatever they want regardless of the consequences to society.

So then, we should make alcohol illegal entirely? I mean, there are plenty of people who can't handle the consequences of alcohol.

Or.. should we perhaps regulate the drugs like we do alcohol? People are doing the drugs anyway.

Reason me this. You can only pick one.

We should make alcohol illegal like heroin and cocaine.
We should make cocain and heroine legal like alcohol.

You can't have both and you can't choose neither. You can't justify one and not the other.

 

[manimal]

Consumption of twinkies and other sweet foods is also up in those states.

 

[bfdd]

Yes, and thus the point would be to prevent the crime before it happens.

I happen to think that legalizing drugs would actually reduce violent crime BTW. Among other things, it's a crime prevention measure.

Then we should ban leaving your house or doing anything. I mean honestly what the fuck is the point? Crimes happen regardless of our prevention of them. We teach kids not to murder, kids grow up into murderers. It's arbitrary bullshit created by the fear of idiots. Educating and allowing such products to exist in society would do further to help fight against them than out right banning them and making them "taboo".

 

[shira]

Studies could look at same states and come to different conclusion.

Depends on what one wants go see in the data.

MMJ may cut into alcohol use, driving down accidents related to alcohol use.

Excuse to promote one over the other. Lesser of two evils is being sold to the public.

And even if what you write is true, why do you have a problem with promoting the lesser of two evils? If you believe that alcohol really is the greater evil, then you should be lobbying to outlaw alcohol use and/or advocating that people switch from alcohol to MJ. Why would you do neither?