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nakedfrog

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So CA does still have medical cards, but it seems your doctor would just write the letter of recommendation, and then you take that and your application to the health department.

 
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Captante

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So, my PCP (for my Kaiser Permanente HMO, in Northern California) messages me in response to my request to be issued a med-card for cannabis:

You would likely benefit from cannabis.
However, there are no longer 'marijuana cards' available or dispensed by a physician.
It is readily available, legalized, and over the counter.

It is no longer a prescription pain alternative.
It is fee for service and considered a holistic modality.

:oops:


Dude.... MJ cards were NEVER issue by a doctor. All he has to do is give you a written recommendation then you apply to the state.

The information your doctor provided you is incorrect and this took me 30 seconds to discover on Google.... I suggest you find a better-informed MD.

CA Department of Cannabis control (State of CA)

California Medical Marijuana Doctors (marijuanadoctors.com)
 

Muse

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Dude.... MJ cards were NEVER issue by a doctor. All he has to do is give you a written recommendation then you apply to the state.

The information your doctor provided you is incorrect and this took me 30 seconds to discover on Google.... I suggest you find a better-informed MD.

CA Department of Cannabis control (State of CA)

California Medical Marijuana Doctors (marijuanadoctors.com)
Yeah, I just sent him a message asking him to write me a letter recommending I get a Medical Marijuana ID Card and linked that first site, being CA Department of Cannabis control (State of CA). Pretty hard for him to deny that it's the thing to do. He doesn't like to admit being wrong, it's the way he is. Pretty male attitude. I have the name of a female PCP I have been thinking of switching to. Don't know if she's still with my HMO. When I first saw this guy he came recommended by two women who worked with him who were friends with my sister. Almost 20 years ago now. From the start his attitude was that I'd be with him until he retired! These days he takes a lot of vacations. He answers my emails very quickly (both in terms of how long it takes him to reply and how long it takes him to whip out the reply!), usually, but this one took a day or two, which is weird. Yeah, he seems to be totally unaware of what's going on with medical MJ here, which strikes me as weird. I hope he writes me that letter. If he doesn't I'm gonna dump him, dammit. May dump him anyway.
 
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The site says:
"... You can get a medical marijuana ID card with a physician’s recommendation. Medical marijuana ID cards are voluntary. If you have one, your cannabis purchases are exempt from sales and use tax.

Medical marijuana ID cards are valid for up to one year. Both patients and their primary caregiver can get a card...."

Guess it's necessary to reapply yearly to continue.

Edit: The CA site indicates that application fee can be as high as $100, depending on the county. :oops:
 
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Captante

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Edit: The CA site indicates that application fee can be as high as $100, depending on the county. :oops:


Remember when I mentioned it might not be worth it for you? ;)

If you'll only be buying an 8th every few months just suck it up and pay the sales tax.
 
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Remember when I mentioned it might not be worth it for you? ;)

If you'll only be buying an 8th every few months just suck it up and pay the sales tax.
Eh, yeah!
Google: what is the application fee for a medical marijuana card in alameda, california?

Government-issued photo ID. Phone or utility bill that includes a current Alameda County address. $100 fee. Applicants on MediCal will be charged $50.

I really doubt I would buy enough to justify paying $100/year for it. Maybe if it's a one time fee I'd go for it but I've seen no indication of that.
 

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I really doubt I would buy enough to justify paying $100/year for it. Maybe if it's a one time fee I'd go for it but I've seen no indication of that.
Yeah it'll be annually to renew in most states with MMJ, and if you won't buy enough for the tax difference to total at least that $100 + time/effort spent...don't bother and just buy at recreational pricing.
 
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Yeah it'll be annually to renew in most states with MMJ, and if you won't buy enough for the tax difference to total at least that $100 + time/effort spent...don't bother and just buy at recreational pricing.
If I had a notion of what to buy I might, but I don't. I've posted my story of my most-magical first-time pot high here, more than once I think. It was hallucinogenic. Maybe not like a 400 mics LSD trip (which I've never done) but I was amazingly high the first time I smoked MJ. Of course, experiences like that I'd like to have again. IIRC there was nothing negative about it. Now, I have pain issues, so there's more I might want from pot. Don't know if that means one strain over another, I suppose so. Anyway, I figure smoke that sour diesel I've had for a while to start with. Last time I did, I was getting high on a single toke, and doubly on two, and that was stuff that had never been frozen but kept in a tightly capped tiny jar in a fairly cool and dark place.

My Firefly 2+ is supposed to arrive today! :)
 
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When you don't imbibe very often weed gets you MUCH higher! :p

And here's hoping you get more then a random plastic gizmo this time!
AH! I didn't know that! Last time I turned on (if you can call it that) was around 6-8 weeks ago, a single toke. I'd done 2 tokes around 4 days previous. Before that, it had been many months IIRC.
 

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And here's hoping you get more then a random plastic gizmo this time!
Well, I was thinking the same thing but felt reasonably confident to the extent that I called my CC company the other day and using their automated system withdrew my dispute. If this shipment is botched too, I'm at the mercy of the merchant.
 
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AH! I didn't know that! Last time I turned on (if you can call it that) was around 6-8 weeks ago, a single toke. I'd done 2 tokes around 4 days previous. Before that, it had been many months IIRC.

That's one of the challenges with weed DUI's... a person who barely smokes takes 3 hits off a joint and for a little while right afterwards can be rendered completely dysfunctional.

Meanwhile a serious stoner can do a dozen giant bong-hits yet be completely (or close to it) normal and virtually unaffected.
 
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Well, I was thinking the same thing but felt reasonably confident to the extent that I called my CC company the other day and using their automated system withdrew my dispute. If this shipment is botched too, I'm at the mercy of the merchant.


Don't worry.... you can re-activate that dispute or file another one if they screwed up again. (I just had to go through this with some Paypal BS recently)

:)
 

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If I had a notion of what to buy I might, but I don't. I've posted my story of my most-magical first-time pot high here, more than once I think. It was hallucinogenic. Maybe not like a 400 mics LSD trip (which I've never done) but I was amazingly high the first time I smoked MJ. Of course, experiences like that I'd like to have again. IIRC there was nothing negative about it. Now, I have pain issues, so there's more I might want from pot. Don't know if that means one strain over another, I suppose so. Anyway, I figure smoke that sour diesel I've had for a while to start with. Last time I did, I was getting high on a single toke, and doubly on two, and that was stuff that had never been frozen but kept in a tightly capped tiny jar in a fairly cool and dark place.

My Firefly 2+ is supposed to arrive today! :)
That seems reasonable, and knowing the strain and whether it's providing all the effects you're looking for can be helpful in finding other strains.
 
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That seems reasonable, and knowing the strain and whether it's providing all the effects you're looking for can be helpful in finding other strains.
If you go into a dispensary, some of the more experienced budtenders can likely steer you in the right direction for pain relief or whichever ailment you are looking for relief from. Some will also have a dry erase board with diff strains and what they are best used for.
 

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need to find me one of these

 

Muse

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That's one of the challenges with weed DUI's... a person who barely smokes takes 3 hits off a joint and for a little while right afterwards can be rendered completely dysfunctional.

Meanwhile a serious stoner can do a dozen giant bong-hits yet be completely (or close to it) normal and virtually unaffected.
OMG!!! I'd heard of stuff like this with heroin, not pot. I mean stories about people who'd been off H for quite a while, then unaware or not thinking went to shoot up their customary fix and OD'd, often dying.

But yeah, this kind of mirrors my experience in recent years. I was never a heavy user of MJ, far from it. In fact, I don't think I have ever been nearly as high as that first time, when I got EVERYTHING I possibly could out of two J's, didn't notice anything until I'd finished and then just realized ...

I was HIGH!!!!!

But in recent years I have only gotten high very occasionally and one or two tokes and I'm definitely tweaked and in new territory.

Received my new FF 2+ today. Unboxed and am looking at the manual, which I'd downloaded and printed a few days ago (they included "Instructions" in the box but that's scant and with nothing on the app). I've just installed the app on the 3 android phones I use. The one with Android 10 is activated and I have location services turned on for when the app is used. The other two are Android 7 and I don't know if they support that. The manual says location services has to be on, well, for some android phones to have the bluetooth connection, so I'm allowing it. Didn't see a setting for making it only when using the app. Weird thing is there are ~1/2 dozen FF apps on Android but none are named what I was told in Chat to install, Firefly Vaporizers. :oops:
 
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The difference is with weed 20 minutes later and your fine. :)

Heroin/Fentanyl you overdue it after a long dry-spell you better hope somebody has Narcan handy (AND maybe knows CPR!) or it will be time for a dirt-nap.


"Instructions" in the box but that's scant

I would charge it up then figure out where the weed goes and stuff some in.

It's not rocket-science... you can learn as you go.

;)
 
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So, today my PCP responds to my asking for a letter of recommendation to aid me in applying for a Medical marijuana ID card. As posted above, I'd linked him to the official page on it from CA.
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Yes, you would benefit. Otherwise, it's a holistic modality, and not a medical necessity.
Marijuana cards are not standard of care and not authorized for routine health maintenance.

It's a fee for service industry.
Medical recommendation is for ALS, bed-ridden, intractable seizures, chronic debilitating pain with total loss of ADL's, HIV/AIDs, cancer patients with anorexia, chronic nausea, or profound pain. It was not meant for routine osteoarthritis diagnosis. You do not have erosive rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis or lupus arthritis.

In order to be considered for qualification for a marijuana card, patients need to have medical records or a doctor’s recommendation that determines they have one of the following conditions:
- - - -
Well, I mostly don't seem to have that kind of pain. However I do have arthritis. I don't know much about that, don't understand the various types. My ortho doc explained to me the etymology of the word. Arth refers to joints, ritis refers to inflammation.



Anyway, as stated above, I figure getting the card won't be worth it for me. If I want to grow at home, I can, and probably more than I'd need. Interesting is the CA site saying with a card you can buy cannabis with higher THC content than otherwise. That seems interesting, I suppose.
 
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I would charge it up then figure out where the weed goes and stuff some in.
It's not rocket-science... you can learn as you go.

;)
Yeah, I was wondering, use the buttons or actually program it using the app to control max temperature from the get-go. I do know that reading the customer reviews at their site is really instructive, but I haven't done that for a week. The package I got today suggests that they have a community thing going on. I guess it's from their website. I wonder if it's a forum type thing with threads where anybody can chime in.
 

Captante

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If you want to get a Med-card in CA it's super-easy and that guy isn't well informed at all. Nearly anyone can get one with next to no effort... all you need is an MD to diagnose you with chronic pain from literally anything. (and there's a LONG list of doc's who do only that FOR CHEAP in CA if you look at the site I linked)

My concern moving forward for you would be that your doctor might be no better informed on other important topics related to your health and could easily be giving you bad/out of date advice on other more critical subjects.
 
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Yeah, I was wondering, use the buttons or actually program it using the app to control max temperature from the get-go. I do know that reading the customer reviews at their site is really instructive, but I haven't done that for a week. The package I got today suggests that they have a community thing going on. I guess it's from their website. I wonder if it's a forum type thing with threads where anybody can chime in.
If you are using flower you don't want to set it higher than 420 or 430 to minimize combustion. If you are using concentrates you want to max the temp settings. The app is more accurate for flower, plus you can adjust the calibration.
 
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I am so glad I can just go to a shop and choose from 50 kinds of weed, or stop at one of many friends who will trade me some of their homegrown (which is sometimes stronger) and smoke a bowl or joint, or have an edible if I choose. The U.S. should definitely try out this freedom and democracy thing someday.
 
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I am so glad I can just go to a shop and choose from 50 kinds of weed, or stop at one of many friends who will trade me some of their homegrown (which is sometimes stronger) and smoke a bowl or joint, or have an edible if I choose. The U.S. should definitely try out this freedom and democracy thing someday.


I have a terrific dispensary about 1/2 mile from my home so some of us DO have the "50 kinds of weed" thing covered.

Freedom and democracy OTOH might prove to be a tall order. :confused:
 

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My concern moving forward for you would be that your doctor might be no better informed on other important topics related to your health and could easily be giving you bad/out of date advice on other more critical subjects.
He tries to sound definitive (often by just copping an attitude). My HMO is highly rated, but the PCPs are the people you have to get past to see whomever. He's the only PCP I've had there, but he fits the description. Getting past him can be fuckin' hard.

When I had my last colonoscopy he expressed reluctance to have me have another at a later time, after a few years. But he promised me one more in 5 years. When that time came he refused, saying "what are they going to say when I send someone your age for a colonoscopy?" He said "you're more likely to die from a heart problem than cancer." My heart is absolutely fine. I figure I should ditch him just for that, although he's refused me other stuff. For instance, I asked to be sent to a physical therapist. I was working out at the gym 3x/week, 1.5 hours each time, also biking+skating to the gym 5 miles each way (I'd stop 1/2 way and lock up my bike and skate the rest of the way to the gym). I had issues!!! He refused, saying PT was just to help recover from specific accident injuries. I told my PT sister and she was just "what???"
 
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