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My viewpoint on criminals are idiosyncratic. Criminals are not appreciated for their legal or psychological intelligence or the willingness to play the stage with "testimony". Thus, criminals can make "excellent" businessmen or lawyers because they're already well-practiced in many things.
Contemplating criminals is interesting. I try not to overdo it because they are often very cunning and and study of them could have detrimental effects... I don't want their cunning to rub off on me, that's the thing. Other than that, it's interesting to contemplate what they might be about. Dostoevsky did that, I'm sure. We see people in the news who commit crimes and it's hard not to wonder what motivates them, what they could possibly have been thinking. What gets me is how the news and authorities keep talking about "motive." They imagine that the perp has a reason for their actions. They don't get that a great many of these perps don't think in those terms, they don't have a motive per se, they don't have an ordered and logical life, at least not that pertains to the particular criminal act that brought attention to them. They sometimes dream up some action because it excites them. The aftermath is often something completely different, of course. So many times they are a cautionary tale. In that, thinking about them is instructive. Of course, one wants to stop thinking about them because life can and should be so much better...
 
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I'm promoting any cliches or anything, I just find it funny that the research was done in the university of New Mexico :kissing:

The MOST "Freudian" of slips rotfl. :rolleyes:

(The only edit I made to the above-quoted post was bolding and text size for emphasis)
 

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LOL, "I'm not racist, but..."
Strawman.
Properly speaking, no race is free from engaging in deception in misconduct. The specific "flavors" can vary based on race, however. I've dealt with shits all over. A few whites, few blacks, a Peruvian, plenty of Chinese, Jews, Nigerians, Arabs etc. So basically everyone is represented. But I'm not looking for skin color as a automatic heuristic, but behavior and content. Duplicity or "power moves".

Having dealt with Nigerians, the "fake prince" is merely an extreme example of a tendency to present themselves publicly very well.

If I catch scent of the misconduct cadence, then the defenses are coming up, and I don't excuse based on any color, ethnicity, status symbols(government employees do not deserve the halo they get). I'm hair-trigger explosive against duplicity. Lying is simply a matter of logic with two components: intent and falsehoods, and obviously skin color is not in the definition of either.

It's a matter of nuance, for culture influences behavior more than superficially, but it would obviously be a hasty jump to immediately prejudge someone has a certain characteristic based on appearance alone.

In fact, as far as toxic personalities, I found that some 60+ Mensa Jew and a 35ish biracial might as well be misconduct twins.
 
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Got an email from the Firefly folks saying, with apologies, that my Firefly 2+ order fulfillment will be delayed. Evidently they have a supply issue. Said they'll inform me with tracking info when it's resolved. :(
Firefly emailed me today saying it's shipped and they gave me the tracking number. :)
Uh, in case anyone else is ordering a Firefly vape this weekend, this code is for 15% off: FIREFLY4TH
I suppose that code won't work anymore, but maybe WIZARD15 will.
 
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Strawman.
Properly speaking, no race is free from engaging in deception in misconduct. The specific "flavors" can vary based on race, however. I've dealt with shits all over. A few whites, few blacks, a Peruvian, plenty of Chinese, Jews, Nigerians, Arabs etc. So basically everyone is represented. But I'm not looking for skin color as a automatic heuristic, but behavior and content. Duplicity or "power moves".

Having dealt with Nigerians, the "fake prince" is merely an extreme example of a tendency to present themselves publicly very well.

If I catch scent of the misconduct cadence, then the defenses are coming up, and I don't excuse based on any color, ethnicity, status symbols(government employees do not deserve the halo they get). I'm hair-trigger explosive against duplicity. Lying is simply a matter of logic with two components: intent and falsehoods, and obviously skin color is not in the definition of either.

It's a matter of nuance, for culture influences behavior more than superficially, but it would obviously be a hasty jump to immediately prejudge someone has a certain characteristic based on appearance alone.

In fact, as far as toxic personalities, I found that some 60+ Mensa Jew and a 35ish biracial might as well be misconduct twins.
I was specifically referring to a now-removed post, don't use "strawman" if you don't know what it means :rolleyes:
 
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I was specifically referring to a now-removed post, don't use "strawman" if you don't know what it means :rolleyes:
confession... I had to look it up AGAIN yesterday. I have seen that term here lots, but the meaning/definition didn't stick. I also looked up duplicity (which I DO understand, and shouldn't have had to look it up). Also "heuristic," and I'm not sure TM used that correctly, don't know. That's a slippery word.

adjective

  1. enabling someone to discover or learn something for themselves.
    "a “hands-on” or interactive heuristic approach to learning"
noun

  1. a heuristic process or method.


What is an example of heuristic?



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Heuristics can be thought of as general cognitive frameworks humans rely on regularly to quickly reach a solution. For example, if a student needed to decide what subject she will study at university, her intuition will likely be drawn toward the path that she envisions most satisfying, practical and interesting.

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A related term I looked up which IS definitely worth understanding is "IMPLICIT BIAS"
 

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The only way I ever hear/read the word "heuristics" actually used these days is in reference to anti-malware software's auto-protect scanning function. Also occasionally in relation to auto-generated firewall rules.
 
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Oh, boy...

I get the box today from Firefly that's supposed to contain my new Firefly 2+ but there's nothing in the box but my receipt, brown packing paper and a very small sealed clear plastic bag that contains what I take to be a mouthpiece. Evidently whoever was working the shipping that day mixed up my order with someone else's. :mad:

I just called my CC company and disputed the transaction. They said they'd deal with the merchant and I'll get a letter in 7-10 days from them. I just sent this email to Firefly help ( help@thefirefly.com ), along with two attachments, being JPGs, one of the receipt for the Firefly 2+ (which was in the box), the other being of the little object still in sealed clear plastic (mouthpiece?), as shown here:

Only item in box other than receipt and brown packing paper.jpg

Of course, I figure they may wonder if I'm trying to scam them!

I posted this to FF help via email:

Evidently your Chat function online is functional but there's nobody monitoring it. I posted this in that Chat (without the graphics):
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Hey... One week ago today I ordered a Firefly 2+ on your website, Order #_____. I got an email on July 7, 2022 saying "Things are a little backed up on our end, but rest assured, we’re working hard to deliver your order as soon as possible." Today I got a box from "SHIPPING DEPT, 1915 N CEDAR ST UNIT 6, MISHAWAKA IN 46545-6466" containing only the receipt, brown packing paper and a tiny clear plastic bag containing what I take to be an extra mouthpiece. NOTHING ELSE! What is going on? Was the person packing my shipment stoned? This is beyond ridiculous!
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OK, so I posted that to chat, but I figure I won't get a response before Monday, July 11.

Attached in this email are pictures of the two items that were in the box, besides one long piece of brown packing paper. There was nothing else in the box!
 

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Oh, boy...

I get the box today from Firefly that's supposed to contain my new Firefly 2+ but there's nothing in the box but my receipt, brown packing paper and a very small sealed clear plastic bag that contains what I take to be a mouthpiece. Evidently whoever was working the shipping that day mixed up my order with someone else's. :mad:

I just called my CC company and disputed the transaction. They said they'd deal with the merchant and I'll get a letter in 7-10 days from them. I just sent this email to Firefly help ( help@thefirefly.com ), along with two attachments, being JPGs, one of the receipt for the Firefly 2+ (which was in the box), the other being of the little object still in sealed clear plastic (mouthpiece?), as shown here:

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Of course, I figure they may wonder if I'm trying to scam them!

I posted this to FF help via email:

Evidently your Chat function online is functional but there's nobody monitoring it. I posted this in that Chat (without the graphics):
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Hey... One week ago today I ordered a Firefly 2+ on your website, Order #_____. I got an email on July 7, 2022 saying "Things are a little backed up on our end, but rest assured, we’re working hard to deliver your order as soon as possible." Today I got a box from "SHIPPING DEPT, 1915 N CEDAR ST UNIT 6, MISHAWAKA IN 46545-6466" containing only the receipt, brown packing paper and a tiny clear plastic bag containing what I take to be an extra mouthpiece. NOTHING ELSE! What is going on? Was the person packing my shipment stoned? This is beyond ridiculous!
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OK, so I posted that to chat, but I figure I won't get a response before Monday, July 11.

Attached in this email are pictures of the two items that were in the box, besides one long piece of brown packing paper. There was nothing else in the box!
It just occurred to me that somebody, maybe the USPS, weighed my box and if so the digital record of that weight may be accessible by Firefly. If so, they can plainly see (or should) that it weighed less than if a Firefly 2+ was in it. :rolleyes:
 

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It just occurred to me that somebody, maybe the USPS, weighed my box and if so the digital record of that weight may be accessible by Firefly. If so, they can plainly see (or should) that it weighed less than if a Firefly 2+ was in it. :rolleyes:

So... you DID reach out to the company and give them... say... 24 hours to reply before charging back right?

Don't you think you should make a sincere effort to speak with them and give them a chance to make it right before going full-douchebag?


EDIT: I didn't realize that thing goes for $250. (!!) :oops:

For that money I would 100% have gone another way unless portability was the main/only objective.
 
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So... you DID contact the company and give them... say... 24 hours to reply before charging back right?

Don't you think you should make a sincere effort to reach them and give them a chance to make it right before going full-douchebag?
Maybe, but Monday's the first I'd hear from them. Honestly, I've seldom had any such issues and am not aware of what I did being "full-douchebag." Jeez, gimme a break, it was their fuckin' mistake. I figure I should cover my ass, period, especially since I have no proof that I'm not lying, plus it's a lot of goddamn money. I'm not used to spending that much on stuff. :rolleyes:
 

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Maybe, but Monday's the first I'd hear from them. Honestly, I've seldom had any such issues and am not aware of what I did being "full-douchebag." Jeez, gimme a break, it was their fuckin' mistake. I figure I should cover my ass, period, especially since I have no proof that I'm not lying, plus it's a lot of goddamn money. I'm not used to spending that much on stuff. :rolleyes:


Wow... Monday! How would you EVER have survived? ;)

Charge-back is for when the company fvck's you over and refuses to fix it ... you made zero good-faith effort to resolve the situation before treating them like scammers.

The FIRST thing the credit card company is going to do is (guess what?) CALL the company to investigate. AND since they can't be reached until Monday you've accomplished nothing productive.
 
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Wow... Monday! How would you EVER have survived? ;)

Charge-back is for when the company fvck's you over and refuses to fix it ... you made zero good-faith effort to resolve the situation before treating them like scammers.
Sorry, that is not my perspective. I didn't get what I paid for, I didn't call them scammers. What's your trip?
 

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Sorry, that is not my perspective. I didn't get what I paid for, I didn't call them scammers. What's your trip?

Having helped run a business where occasionally we made shipping mistakes (and promptly fixed them) I've been on the receiving-end of a charge-back from a customer who assumed the worst more than once.

Lets just say that it doesn't make you any friends at the company doing something like that without even bothering to contact customer service first.

Further you have at minimum 90 days to initiate a chargeback... it would have made no difference at all if you waited until say Tues AM. (except maybe to your karma!)
 
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Having helped run a business where occasionally we made shipping mistakes (and promptly fixed them) I've been on the receiving-end of a charge-back from a customer who assumed the worst more than once.

Lets just say that it doesn't make you any friends at the company doing something like that without even bothering to contact customer service first.

Further you have at minimum 90 days to initiate a chargeback... it would have made no difference at all if you waited until say Tues AM. (except maybe to your karma!)
Agreed, although I didn't have your perspective from your experience. I was hasty. It was a mistake. I woke up this A.M. at 2:30 and called my CC company, Citi, but I couldn't get through, got messages that they couldn't access their data. I figured they were 24/7, but maybe not, or maybe they're blocking me? I want to see if I can put a hold on that Charge Back or cancel it, even better. I figure to call them after 9AM my time and try again. That may not be possible.
Lets just say that it doesn't make you any friends at the company doing something like that without even bothering to contact customer service first.
Well, I went to great lengths to "contact customer service first," but they were incommunicado because it was Saturday night. I took photos of what was in the box, wrote detailed chat message, an even more detailed email, attaching the photos. I wasn't having a good day. :(

Well, I'm in this thread to become "a nicer person." Guess I'm a rat ATM. :( A dumb rat. Hopefully a FF2+ and some good stash will help me out. :confused:

Edit: So, I just called the CC company and they said they haven't contacted the vendor and won't do so until I respond to the letter the CC company is sending me. They will wait for more info from me. I figure that info will be that the vendor has made good with me and I want to drop the dispute, so I guess I'm good. The guy I talked to first said I would be forfeiting my right to dispute if I did this but he handed me off to the Dispute Dept., and the woman I talked to didn't say that, so I guess I'm fine, and will wait for FF to respond to my chat and email, I figure tomorrow. Maybe they'll throw in a free cleaning kit or something... :rolleyes: Well, I suppose I'll get to keep the extra mouthpiece (assuming that's what it is...).

Edit2: What I don't understand is the thing that WAS in the box isn't seen on their list of 10 available accessories. One of those is mouthpiece but it comes in a 2 pack. What was in the box was this obviously single item of some kind. Maybe it is for the Firefly 2, but I don't see that at their website:

Only item in box other than receipt and brown packing paper.jpg

This is their mouthpiece 2-pack, and they look quite different from what was in the box I received yesterday:
 
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Well, I'm in this thread to become "a nicer person." Guess I'm a rat ATM.

No.... don't be silly! :)

You just over-reacted... it happens. The fact that you care enough to literally have lost sleep over this is enough to show you want to make it right.

Sleep soundly tonight and contact Firefly during business-hours tomorrow. (Mon) While of course I can't promise anything my bet is that they'll apologize and fix it.
 
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Didn't hear from Firefly, so sent more emails, then hit their Chat, where a cool female set me up with new order. She threw in a free cleaning kit (it's a separate ~$9 item, which I hadn't ordered). She helped me find and install the correct app on my android phone.
 
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She said they share a warehouse with other companies. That explains why what I received in the box does not look like anything they sell! Said I can just discard it. I think it's a mouthpiece for some other company's vaporizer.
 

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Never lead with anger! ;) (always time for that later!)

Glad things worked out.
Yeah, I usually don't. Just kind of a Perfect Storm on Saturday (real good book, BTW, not just the movie... I read the book first).
 

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Just think of the lucky recipient of your expensive vape who was expecting a plastic part for something?!?

:p

(could be a mission-critical spare part for all we know lol)
 

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Just think of the lucky recipient of your expensive vape who was expecting a plastic part for something?!?

:p

(could be a mission-critical spare part for all we know lol)
Yeah, I realized. Somebody got a free Firefly 2+.

Speaking of a free vape (!!!), check this:

I got up yesterday morning and walked out my front door and there was a box on my front steps. It was a kit for sharpening a push mower. Now, I do have a push mower that needs sharpening, but I never ordered that kit (I have stuff I ordered to sharpen it, grinding paste, but haven't gotten around to using it... I have so many projects!). Don't remember why, but I looked in my trash can and there was the packing box that it had come in, which included an invoice from Ace Hardware. That and the address on the packing box indicated a neighbor 4 doors away. I deduced that someone had taken the box, opened it, seen the kit, saw my tiny front lawn (very few lawns around here) and not figuring they could do anything with it, decided to leave it on my front steps.

I brought all this to my neighbor but he wasn't home. He finally comes home in the evening and we meet at his door. I'd looked him up meantime and saw he is a lawyer. When meeting him I asked him how he practices law and he said "marijuana law." I told him I'd just ordered a FF2+ (didn't tell him about my shipping snafu problem), he hadn't heard of it but he says he'll have to find something to lay on me, I figure a vaporizer or some other piece of weed paraphernalia, I guess some of his clients give him stuff... (I'd let him know which house is mine). Maybe I'll find his gift on my porch one day soon.
 
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Maybe some free bud! :D
Dude, that occurred to me too !!! Um, after a while it did. Also, who knows, I said FF was a vape, maybe some oil or something. I've never done that. Now, I have smoked hash in the distant past, a little, don't know that I bought any, just someone handing me a pipe with a piece of hash in it. Nice smells! But oil? Have never encountered except in the media, not in person. My sister laid a bottle on me for BD 2-3 years ago, got it here:
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CANABIS-INFUSED SPICED RUM

Caribbean Rum fortified with California Cannabis

Contains 0% Labrador

Hecho en Oakland
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That's it, nothing else on the label. Looks to be maybe 2oz., I've done like nothing with it. Don't know if it's supposed to get you high or suppress your pain or what.

The bud I do have was given me by a friend from my volunteer gig, fellow DJ. They grew it in their backyard. Might be an ounce or two, it's from ~3-4 years ago now.

I also have what I grew back around 1978, indoors under lights. That stuff scares me, not sure it's OK, also hell of old now, of course.
 
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