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You really are an idiot.
And I disagree. ;)

Now the thread title says a study finds that pot CAN make you a nicer person, not that it will. Our devil's advocate here suggests that people who do MJ can be very nasty people under it all. I must admit I've met some scary people who would qualify. I didn't meet Charles Manson and his clan (although I might have, I lived there at the time) ... consider them if you need some reference. In my experience, those kinds of people are the exception. Now, I have never made it a habit to hang out with "pot heads," although I guess I have hung out with some in the past. I wouldn't put down regular use for a minute, though. But I'd be hesitant to say that about H or meth.
 
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You really are an idiot.
They state the measurement methods. Plenty are just questionnaires.

Trait aggression was measured with the Aggression Questionnaire.
Perceived trustworthiness of peers was measured with a modified version of the Trust Scale44, which is designed to measure the perceived trustworthiness of other people.
The Prosocial Behaviors Scale45 was used to measure individual variability in prosocial behaviors and attributes (e.g., “I try to help others,” “I spend time with those friends who feel lonely”).
The Empathy Quotient46 was used to measure the ability to detect, and sensitivity to respond to the feelings of others (e.g., “I really enjoy caring for other people,” “I am good at predicting what someone will do”). The 22 items were scored on a 7-point scale (from strongly disagree to strongly agree [overall α = .80]).
Personality characteristics were measured with the Ten-Item Personality Inventory.
The items measure the “Big 5” dimensions of personality (extraversion, agreeableness, conscientiousness, emotional stability, and openness to experiences) on a 7-point scale (from disagree strongly to agree strongly [overall α = .71]).

Moral reasoning was measured with the Moral Foundations Questionnaire48. The scale measures the reliance on, and endorsement of five psychological foundations of morality based on moral foundations theory. Each of the two parts of the scale contained four questions related to each foundation: (1) harm/care, (2) fairness/reciprocity (including issues of rights), (3) ingroup loyalty, (4) authority/respect, and (5) purity/sanctity. The items are scored on a 5-point scale (from not at all relevant to extremely relevant [part 1] and from strongly disagree to strongly agree [part 2] [overall α = .79]).

Finally, visual facial threat perceptions were measured using facial stimuli created with FaceGen software49. Six ambiguous facial stimuli were created by simultaneously setting the facial expression parameters of the software to the maximum levels for two discrete emotions, for every combination of emotions, from a total of four distinct emotions: sadness, joy, fear, and anger. Under each sketch, participants were instructed to identify the facial expression as displaying either: anger (A), joy (J), fear (F), or sadness (S). Participants’ threat perception responses were coded according to whether the reported emotion facilitates the affiliative (joy or sadness coded 0) or avoidant (anger or fear coded 1) dimensions of human emotionality3. Latency since last cannabis consumption was measured on a 9-point scale from “within the past few hours” to “over a year ago”.

Dinky questions about prosocial behavior is far different than going "all-in" because someone REALLY cares. My mom burned through a lot of money to do battle for guardianship and taking criminal allegations of elder abuse to a jury trial out of loyalty to her mother(my grandmother). Likewise, I too have committed considerable time(with no sense of "charging" my mother for that time ever crossing my mind) to type up grievances and discrimination complaints regard the misconduct of health insurance companies, transportation drivers, and anyone. Me learning about Medicare and filing appeals and grievances may not benefit me when I'm supposed to reach that age because I might be dead before 65, if my father's death is an indication.
Being prosocial isn't just ticking boxes on paper because it feels good or right when answering the question. It's about committing the time to do the labor behind the benevolent act without the expectation or even the thought of compensation in return. The deeds done must also provide actual benefit to whoever is allegedly being assist and not a façade for predatory gain.
 

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Out of curiousity, has anyone personally witnessed a couple people smoke weed together and then get in a fist fight? I can't say that I've seen it but I've seen a whole bunch of drunks duke it out over fuck all. Yes, I know it's anecdotal, but has anyone witnessed it?
 

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A 2 liter would destroy you, so if you really want to, start with like a 16oz. water bottle.


But I don't recommend using aluminum foil for obvious reasons; best to just buy a regular bong.
Dude! That _system_ is fucking brilliant!

The smoke does not percolate, does not go through the water, though.

It does conserve the smoke nicely. I suppose you could take several tokes off the burn of one pinch.

You could wait a minute before toking, letting the smoke cool, a definite plus.

Um, why a problem with the Al foil? It's going to produce toxic fumes? Maybe another kind of foil could be used?

Aluminium foil can melt and burn, but it takes extremely high temperatures to be able to do so. This is why you can use it while cooking meals in the oven, and it generally remains intact. It is best not to test this out yourself as the fumes that burning aluminium is extremely toxic.

I kind of doubt that burning a pinch on a piece of perforated Al foil is going to get to that high a temperature as to generate toxic fumes.
 
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Dude! That _system_ is fucking brilliant!

Um, why a problem with the Al foil? It's going to produce toxic fumes?
Yes aluminum is bad. Hold a flame to aluminum foil before you use it at the very least, and avoid it if possible. Many years ago we used to do the gravity bong but with a cheap pipe bowl offset on the 2 liter bottle so you could refill it. Cheap pipes often used light fixture parts like the pull chain fittings and threaded pipe etc. so you could get a good seal. Now I just smoke a pipe I made or joints. Smoking weed used to be such an event we came up with all sorts of ways to smoke it. I do recall having someone spill the thing after a few hours and the water smelled disgusting, but thankfully we were in a kitchen with linoleum floors. Maybe don't use it in areas with carpet if you have clumsy people involved.
 

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IMO, he does vary a whole lot. I have no idea why, maybe it's substance involved, factors in his life style. Some of his postings are way better than others. Moods? It's probably more than that, I just don't know the why.

Edit: reread post 126, I added to it.
 
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Got an email from the Firefly folks saying, with apologies, that my Firefly 2+ order fulfillment will be delayed. Evidently they have a supply issue. Said they'll inform me with tracking info when it's resolved. :(
 

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IMO, he does vary a whole lot. I have no idea why, maybe it's substance involved, factors in his life style. Some of his postings are way better than others. Moods? It's probably more than that, I just don't know the why.

Edit: reread post 126, I added to it.


I suggest re-visiting a few of his "classics" .... some of the stuff this guy believes (especially anything related to diet/nutrition) is WAY beyond "idiot".

I USED to think he was a good/sincere guy too but after he's crossed the line with zero apology/remorse more than a few times I'm not making excuses for him or his casual offhand racist quips.
 
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I suggest re-visiting a few of his "classics" .... some of the stuff this guy believes (especially anything related to diet/nutrition) is WAY beyond "idiot".

I USED to think he was a good/sincere guy too but after he's crossed the line with zero apology/remorse more than a few times I'm not making excuses for him or his casual offhand racist quips.
I wouldn't know where to look for his "classics."

Indeed his descriptions of his dietary excursions come off as peculiar, often extremely so. I don't recall his racist quips. I believe he's Chinese. I don't think he makes apologies for China. I might have seen him being racist but didn't make mental note of it. Clearly he's not in the same class of recalcitrance as Taj, Brandon, and a handful of other incorrigibles who post here (who are mostly on my Ignore List).
 

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I wouldn't know where to look for his "classics."

Indeed his descriptions of his dietary excursions come off as peculiar, often extremely so. I don't recall his racist quips. I believe he's Chinese. I don't think he makes apologies for China. I might have seen him being racist but didn't make mental note of it. Clearly he's not in the same class of recalcitrance as Taj, Brandon, and a handful of other incorrigibles who post here (who are mostly on my Ignore List).


While I agree he's not a straight-up bigot-troll like the above-mentioned a$$hats there have been several blatant "slips" where what he actually believes has shone through. (and its not pretty)

However I wouldn't actually suggest you waste your time wading through the 100's of his nonsensical BS posts comparing Mariah Carey to Mozart or claiming that Tofu can treat AFIB to find them!
 
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IMO, he does vary a whole lot. I have no idea why, maybe it's substance involved, factors in his life style. Some of his postings are way better than others. Moods? It's probably more than that, I just don't know the why.

Edit: reread post 126, I added to it.
I don't consume "substances" if you mean drugs or the like. All posts are made sober, some probably when sleep-deprived.

I've got two people going on the road to diabetes in my family. I only got of that dietary train because my dental health got to me first. It was first by accident and then by necessity I got into "diet" after approximately 32 years of not giving a fuck. What I see from Jason Fung and Ford Brewer is "bleeding edge" but not nutty presentation of information indicating the standard advice is deficient and destructive.

My viewpoint on criminals are idiosyncratic. Criminals are not appreciated for their legal or psychological intelligence or the willingness to play the stage with "testimony". Thus, criminals can make "excellent" businessmen or lawyers because they're already well-practiced in many things.
 

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I've got two people going on the road to diabetes in my family

Maybe you should try getting advice from a competent MD instead of suggesting potentially harmful nonsense as dietary/medical advice.

People like you that don't hesitate to post unproven crap and BS opinion online like it's some kind of fact DIRECTLY harm others with their actions.

About the only "excuse" you can realistically offer is to say "no reasonable person could be stupid enough to believe this crap" but after the last two years we KNOW that just isn't true!
 
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While I agree he's not a straight-up bigot-troll like the above-mentioned a$$hats there have been several blatant "slips" where what he actually believes has shone through. (and its not pretty)

However I wouldn't actually suggest you waste your time wading through the 100's of his nonsensical BS posts comparing Mariah Carey to Mozart or claiming that Tofu can treat AFIB to find them!
A Mariah Carey song is very much like a abbreviated classical concerto. The soloist and the "set backing music" go back and forth with an interplay
 
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Using multi-syllable words out of context especially when simpler terms would actually do a better job making your intended point does not = "intelligence".

What's worse is that apparently some folks ARE impressed by it! :rolleyes:
 
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Maybe you should try getting advice from a competent MD instead of suggesting potentially harmful nonsense as dietary/medical advice.

People like you that don't hesitate to post unproven crap and BS opinion online like it's some kind of fact DIRECTLY harm others with their actions.
Brewer and Fung are MDs. Brewer graduated from Hopkins in preventative medicine. Fung is a nephrologist who wanted to know why he kept on getting patients with these damaging symptoms. Brewer in particular is not pushy or type who proclaims bold absolutes. He just presents evidence.

I sift through content. Thomas DeLauer annoys me and he obviously has a poor understanding of chemistry( I think he cannot grasp "trans" or his audience is really not capable). Ken Berry is a little too meat-happy and anti-dairy. And I actually haven't listened to much of Fung because his voice is annoying and tedious.

Brewer has had a few guests and their testimony is rather convincing in a legitmate sense.
 

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Brewer and Fung are MDs. Brewer graduated from Hopkins in preventative medicine. Fung is a nephrologist who wanted to know why he kept on getting patients with these damaging symptoms. Brewer in particular is not pushy or type who proclaims bold absolutes. He just presents evidence.

I sift through content. Thomas DeLauer annoys me and he obviously has a poor understanding of chemistry( I think he cannot grasp "trans" or his audience is really not capable). Ken Berry is a little too meat-happy and anti-dairy. And I actually haven't listened to much of Fung because his voice is annoying and tedious.

Brewer has had a few guests and their testimony is rather convincing in a legitmate sense.


I think you need a new "sifter". ;)
 

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Yeah... why would diabetic's want to use safe, cheap, readily available and proven effective over many years drug like Metformin when they can go that route? (and I wonder WHO might want doctors to switch to the newer/pricier stuff with no generic available?)

This guy is a crackpot no matter where he went to med-school.... OBVIOUSLY lifestyle changes AND meds are the most effective treatment for type-2 diabetes.

I'm not a bit surprised by the ...erm... somewhat limited viewpoints expressed by the content of your Youtube page either .... thanks for helping to make my point.


EDIT: Ask yourself why the fvck this clown has to make a YT video every week? Let's just say I doubt that the Lancet is posting any links to this garbage.
 
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While I agree he's not a straight-up bigot-troll like the above-mentioned a$$hats there have been several blatant "slips" where what he actually believes has shone through. (and its not pretty)

However I wouldn't actually suggest you waste your time wading through the 100's of his nonsensical BS posts comparing Mariah Carey to Mozart or claiming that Tofu can treat AFIB to find them!
Yeah, I spotted that one on M. Carey, was mildly curious but skipped that thread. She's not on MY radar and figure I don't want to go there... just now. ;)
 
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