Students support socialism but think like capitalist

[Jhhnn]

Nothing is free for anyone. Nothing.

Tell it to the inheritors of great wealth, guys like Trump. They'll get an even bigger laugh out of it than the rest of us.

 

[Vic]

Repost.

Bernie Sanders is a psychopathic nutjob with ZERO chance of winning even a job as dogcatcher. Nobody is for bernie.

Also Nordic countries arent $21.5 trillion in debt and getting deeper by the the second like we are. They also pay huge income tax, we dont pay that kind of tax for dumbassed socialist programs and we wont volunteer for that shit either.

Socialism is wrong.

Its wrong for nordic countries, its wrong for capitalist loving Americans and its wrong for everyone on Earth.

Nothing is free for anyone. Nothing.

The only people who want shit for free in the US are the 'conservatives.' They expect to be able to get government services without paying taxes. The worst of these are the typical Fox News viewer, a diehard Trumper who's never worked a day in the private sector, living on a fat government pension with government healthcare, ranting about the 'socialist' youth. To these 'conservatives,' 'socialism' is actually having to pay for the government they get.

 

[Jhhnn]

The only people who want shit for free in the US are the 'conservatives.' They expect to be able to get government services without paying taxes. The worst of these are the typical Fox News viewer, a diehard Trumper who's never worked a day in the private sector, living on a fat government pension with government healthcare, ranting about the 'socialist' youth. To these 'conservatives,' 'socialism' is actually having to pay for the government they get.

Don't go bad mouthing govt retirees like that. The vast majority of us know we're lucky to have what we do. More people should have it so good. Percentage wise, more people actually did before the destruction of Unions & the substitution of 401k's for pensions.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

GPA and income are pretty much the same, so this makes sense.

Actually, they are dipshit.

GPA is a major determining factor of your success in life.

IQ is something that is overall a major determining factor of income.


Just as much as IQ correlates with Income, you're wrong. Shut the fuck up. Go play with sticks because you're too stupid to understand simple statistics. If you disagree with anything I said, you're clearly in the bottom portion and are asking for everyone else to "spread the wealth" because you're too stupid.

 

[DarthKyrie]

Enter the workforce? You are selling the same recycled propaganda as the quote above.

I mentioned the working poor.

• Today 73 percent of workers earning under $15 per hour nationwide are older than 25.
• Households with at least one worker earning under $15 an hour include over:
  • 125 million people
  • 31.5 million children
  • That’s more than 42 percent of the children in the US.

Enter the workforce? Do you hate the American people so, that you ignorantly throw this scorn onto them?

These people, through no fault of their own, are part of an economic system that increasingly leaves them behind. Impoverished and destitute. In need of greater subsidies to sustain them. And these workers, they are consumers. Capitalism REQUIRES their health and vitality. We need them to have a sizable stake of economic liquidity so that they can fully participate in the flow of goods and services. So the rich people you ignorantly pride yourself with, may continue to enjoy that wealth.

You are right Mai, something has been taken from us. It is called Income Inequality, and it is increasing. Another way of saying it, workers today earn less than their parents did. Their children will earn even less. That's also called Trickle Down.

Back in 2008, for some reason, we all started talking about the economy a whole lot. Back then I followed the Libertarian mantra. You know it well. But the posters here had some real points on providing Stimulus to ensure we maintain a certain level on economic liquidity. So starting around that time I was real curious, and starting looking around for various solutions. Democrats were quite vocal regarding their solutions. Where were the Republicans? What are their solutions?

10 years later, that question has never been answered. I have since concluded that Republicans have no plan.

Let me repeat. Republicans understand economics SO BADLY that they think we can fuck over the workers, the consumers of their products, and somehow they can still wake up behind their gated walls without the world burning down around them tomorrow. News flash, you are still part of this world. If our people are deprived of enough liquidity, enough value for their labor, !@#$ is going to hit the fan real quick. Real bad. American workers are ALREADY, TO THIS DAY, poor enough for that to occur. Except we have tax returns and food stamps and a real hodgepodge of bureaucratic "welfare" programs intended to try and keep people afloat. So they can still participate in the economy and not go French Revolution on our arses.

We need a fully realized, fully funded, a fully robust social safety net. We need to prepare for tomorrow by absorbing the lessons of the past 40 years of trickle down. And what it means for us as Capitalism evolves and drops labor. We can plan for and adapt to properly accommodate these changes. We can sustain our people by ensuring they will ALWAYS have a piece of the American economy. We just need to give it to them. Novel idea right? Keeping the consumers... consuming. By making sure they have enough cash. By giving it to them, one way or another.

Enter... Basic Income. Paid for by a 25% tax which, ironically, can pay for itself by virtue of the "nest egg". A baby is born, $1,000/mo becomes $216,000 by the time they turn 18 years old. Find a partner and PAY CASH for a house. Poof, mortgages and rents are history for over half the population, and massively reduced for the rest. Suddenly, for workers, that 25% has paid for itself with the practical abolition of those monthly house payments. And you still have that $1,000/mo income for each person coming in. Regardless of employment or location. Americans will be free to move and work where ever they please, with the security of knowing they can take their time to do it right. To work towards their dreams, instead of slaving for or begging for basic necessities.

In America's short lived golden age, our workers enjoyed more wealth than today. It's about time we gave it back to them. For the greater prosperity of our country. To SAVE our markets and our Capitalist system. You cannot survive if you leave your consumers behind. Basic economic liquidity 101. It's past time we did something positive on that front.

During the 1930s capitalism failed us, the rich people in this country got lucky then I don't see them escaping retribution next time.

You made me laugh, you terrible person.

Did he make you spew your drink out of your nose or something? That is the only way I would consider that comment terrible.

 

[Victorian Gray]

During the 1930s capitalism failed us, the rich people in this country got lucky then I don't see them escaping retribution next time.



Did he make you spew your drink out of your nose or something? That is the only way I would consider that comment terrible.

It's a joke, son. A joke.

 

[DarthKyrie]

It's a joke, son. A joke.

You said you laughed so I was hoping you spewed you drink out of your nose which would have made your comment even funnier because then he would be terrible for making your nose burn. I just wanted to be able to laugh at the visual of it happening to someone, I'm usually able to catch myself when someone catches me off guard with a funny.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You said you laughed so I was hoping you spewed you drink out of your nose which would have made your comment even funnier because then he would be terrible for making your nose burn. I just wanted to be able to laugh at the visual of it happening to someone, I'm usually able to catch myself when someone catches me off guard with a funny.

 

[TheVrolok]

Actually, they are dipshit.

GPA is a major determining factor of your success in life.

IQ is something that is overall a major determining factor of income.


Just as much as IQ correlates with Income, you're wrong. Shut the fuck up. Go play with sticks because you're too stupid to understand simple statistics. If you disagree with anything I said, you're clearly in the bottom portion and are asking for everyone else to "spread the wealth" because you're too stupid.

You, like other simpler minded folks, are conflating things that have similarities and things that are the same. You even used the word correlate in your adorable little rant.

This obviously hit you right in the feels. I can't imagine getting this emotionally invested in a thread.. Those poor feels of yours.

I really don't have to make much of an argument. If you weren't so busy frothing at the mouth, you could have read any of the posts above that point out the obvious failures of making this ridiculous argument. I'll let you do that in your spare time.

Fascinating that you would make it personal in the end, but I suppose that's all you've got left. Since it seems like you were interested, I'm in the top 1% of both IQ and income.. My undergrad GPA was fairly mediocre (in context), though.

 

[ecogen]

Actually, they are dipshit.

GPA is a major determining factor of your success in life.

IQ is something that is overall a major determining factor of income.


Just as much as IQ correlates with Income, you're wrong. Shut the fuck up. Go play with sticks because you're too stupid to understand simple statistics. If you disagree with anything I said, you're clearly in the bottom portion and are asking for everyone else to "spread the wealth" because you're too stupid.

The majority of the posters on this forum are most probably, at least, an entire SD above you when it comes to IQ. Calm down, lemming.

 

[nakedfrog]

You, like other simpler minded folks, are conflating things that have similarities and things that are the same. You even used the word correlate in your adorable little rant.

This obviously hit you right in the feels. I can't imagine getting this emotionally invested in a thread.. Those poor feels of yours.

I really don't have to make much of an argument. If you weren't so busy frothing at the mouth, you could have read any of the posts above that point out the obvious failures of making this ridiculous argument. I'll let you do that in your spare time.

Fascinating that you would make it personal in the end, but I suppose that's all you've got left. Since it seems like you were interested, I'm in the top 1% of both IQ and income.. My undergrad GPA was fairly mediocre (in context), though.

It would be a challenge to find a post he makes in P&N that doesn't include some comment towards another poster about their stupidity.

 

[TheVrolok]

It would be a challenge to find a post he makes in P&N that doesn't include some comment towards another poster about their stupidity.

I think there's a term for that.. Projection.

 

[hal2kilo]

You, like other simpler minded folks, are conflating things that have similarities and things that are the same. You even used the word correlate in your adorable little rant.

This obviously hit you right in the feels. I can't imagine getting this emotionally invested in a thread.. Those poor feels of yours.

I really don't have to make much of an argument. If you weren't so busy frothing at the mouth, you could have read any of the posts above that point out the obvious failures of making this ridiculous argument. I'll let you do that in your spare time.

Fascinating that you would make it personal in the end, but I suppose that's all you've got left. Since it seems like you were interested, I'm in the top 1% of both IQ and income.. My undergrad GPA was fairly mediocre (in context), though.

He must work in HR.

 

[Meghan54]

Repost.

Bernie Sanders is a psychopathic nutjob with ZERO chance of winning even a job as dogcatcher. Nobody is for bernie.

Also Nordic countries arent $21.5 trillion in debt and getting deeper by the the second like we are. They also pay huge income tax, we dont pay that kind of tax for dumbassed socialist programs and we wont volunteer for that shit either.

Socialism is wrong.

Its wrong for nordic countries, its wrong for capitalist loving Americans and its wrong for everyone on Earth.

Nothing is free for anyone. Nothing.

If you believe this so adamantly, then may I suggest doing the following:

Never drive on the interstate system ever again....or pretty much any road as they were all built with pooled tax money....socialism at work.

Never visit a doctor ever again---they're educated in socialist medical schools, you know, the kind that takes govt. handouts to function. And it's almost assured that any doctor used govt. education loans to go to school, so they're all socialists in the end.

Never call the police....they're a socialist construct.

Never call the fire dept.

Never buy food except directly from a farmer who doesn't use federal crop insurance or any other federal/state govt. program, such as using the FDA, etc.

In short, move somewhere else if you want to live in a society completely of any socialist trappings...you know, govt. funded education, roads, police, fire prevention, food production, clean air, amongst other things. Don't know where in the heck you'd move to, but I'm sure somewhere you'll find a country without any govt. support of their citizens via taxation....don't know where, but it's gotta be out there somewhere. Your fantasy country....maybe Tibet or Sudan or Nigeria.

 

[whm1974]

If you believe this so adamantly, then may I suggest doing the following:

Never drive on the interstate system ever again....or pretty much any road as they were all built with pooled tax money....socialism at work.

Never visit a doctor ever again---they're educated in socialist medical schools, you know, the kind that takes govt. handouts to function. And it's almost assured that any doctor used govt. education loans to go to school, so they're all socialists in the end.

Never call the police....they're a socialist construct.

Never call the fire dept.

Never buy food except directly from a farmer who doesn't use federal crop insurance or any other federal/state govt. program, such as using the FDA, etc.

In short, move somewhere else if you want to live in a society completely of any socialist trappings...you know, govt. funded education, roads, police, fire prevention, food production, clean air, amongst other things. Don't know where in the heck you'd move to, but I'm sure somewhere you'll find a country without any govt. support of their citizens via taxation....don't know where, but it's gotta be out there somewhere. Your fantasy country....maybe Tibet or Sudan or Nigeria.

Somewhere in Africa, where the Warlords rule. Of Course he does move there then is at risk getting his hands chopped off.

 

[Viper1j]

If you believe this so adamantly, then may I suggest doing the following:

Never drive on the interstate system ever again....or pretty much any road as they were all built with pooled tax money....socialism at work.

Never visit a doctor ever again---they're educated in socialist medical schools, you know, the kind that takes govt. handouts to function. And it's almost assured that any doctor used govt. education loans to go to school, so they're all socialists in the end.

Never call the police....they're a socialist construct.

Never call the fire dept.

Never buy food except directly from a farmer who doesn't use federal crop insurance or any other federal/state govt. program, such as using the FDA, etc.

In short, move somewhere else if you want to live in a society completely of any socialist trappings...you know, govt. funded education, roads, police, fire prevention, food production, clean air, amongst other things. Don't know where in the heck you'd move to, but I'm sure somewhere you'll find a country without any govt. support of their citizens via taxation....don't know where, but it's gotta be out there somewhere. Your fantasy country....maybe Tibet or Sudan or Nigeria.

I think the Island of Bimini is up for sale cheap. Downside is the trees are humming and the fish glow in the dark from the nuclear testing. But hey! The fish will make great night lights.

 

[FelixDeCat]

If you believe this so adamantly, then may I suggest doing the following:

Never drive on the interstate system ever again....or pretty much any road as they were all built with pooled tax money....socialism at work.

Never visit a doctor ever again---they're educated in socialist medical schools, you know, the kind that takes govt. handouts to function. And it's almost assured that any doctor used govt. education loans to go to school, so they're all socialists in the end.

Never call the police....they're a socialist construct.

Never call the fire dept.

Never buy food except directly from a farmer who doesn't use federal crop insurance or any other federal/state govt. program, such as using the FDA, etc.

In short, move somewhere else if you want to live in a society completely of any socialist trappings...you know, govt. funded education, roads, police, fire prevention, food production, clean air, amongst other things. Don't know where in the heck you'd move to, but I'm sure somewhere you'll find a country without any govt. support of their citizens via taxation....don't know where, but it's gotta be out there somewhere. Your fantasy country....maybe Tibet or Sudan or Nigeria.

Dont give me that bullshit.

I know what you really want ...you want us to pay your $100,000.00 tab to study underwater basket weaving which benefits no one. To take 3 semesters of accounting, drop out and wind up as a data entry clerk making $15 an hour. Then quit that job after a while because you'd rather go back to "free" school and loaf around smoking dope and hanging out while pretending to learn something and stick everyone else with the bill.



#feeltheheartburn

 

[Victorian Gray]

Dont give me that bullshit.

I know what you really want ...you want us to pay your $100,000.00 tab to study underwater basket weaving which benefits no one. To take 3 semesters of accounting, drop out and wind up as a data entry clerk making $15 an hour. Then quit that job after a while because you'd rather go back to "free" school and loaf around smoking dope and hanging out while pretending to learn something and stick everyone else with the fucking bill.

It wont work.

"Pay for my college education" wahh!! waah!!! We are like the fire department and road crews - where is our "free" lunch?!!!!

"I dont want a job, I want to be paid full time student until Im 40 - but you wont foot the bill you heartless bastards!"

Why wont you pay a 51% federal tax rate with NO deductions, before the state hits you up for another 8%?!!!

Why!!!



#feeltheheartburn

#trollfuckoff

 

[brycejones]

Dont give me that bullshit.

I know what you really want ...you want us to pay your $100,000.00 tab to study underwater basket weaving which benefits no one. To take 3 semesters of accounting, drop out and wind up as a data entry clerk making $15 an hour. Then quit that job after a while because you'd rather go back to "free" school and loaf around smoking dope and hanging out while pretending to learn something and stick everyone else with the f'g bill.

"Pay for my college education" wahh!! waah!!! We are like the fire department and road crews - where is our "free" lunch?!!!!

"I dont want a job, I want to be paid full time student until Im 40 - but you wont foot the bill you heartless bastards!"

"Why wont you pay a 51% federal tax rate with NO deductions, before the state hits you up for another 8%?!!!"

Why?!!!



#feeltheheartburn

#poorstrawpeople, #grandpasayswhat, #whoosh