Students Sue Prosecutor in Cellphone pictures case

Hyperlite

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03...26sextext.html?src=sch

?They said they had a full-bodied naked picture of me, but I knew I?d never had any naked picture taken of me,? the student, Marissa Miller, 15, recalled of the Feb. 10 telephone call to her mother as the two were having lunch together at Tunkhannock Area High School.
The picture that investigators from the office of District Attorney George P. Skumanick of Wyoming County had was taken two years earlier at a slumber party. It showed Marissa and a friend from the waist up. Both were wearing bras.

so he lied to the families, and is now demanding they accept this deal or do jail time? WTF? how the hell did he even get the pictures? child-Fing-pornography?! Heres the whole thing if it asks you to log in...

When a high school cheerleader in northeastern Pennsylvania learned that she might face criminal charges after investigators reported finding a nude photo of her on someone else?s cellphone, she was more confused than frightened at being caught up in a case of ?sexting?: the increasingly popular phenomenon of nude or seminude photos sent over wireless phones.
?They said they had a full-bodied naked picture of me, but I knew I?d never had any naked picture taken of me,? the student, Marissa Miller, 15, recalled of the Feb. 10 telephone call to her mother as the two were having lunch together at Tunkhannock Area High School. Marissa is a freshman at the school, where her mother, MaryJo, works with special education students.

The picture that investigators from the office of District Attorney George P. Skumanick of Wyoming County had was taken two years earlier at a slumber party. It showed Marissa and a friend from the waist up. Both were wearing bras.

Mr. Skumanick said he considered the photo ?provocative? enough to tell Marissa and the friend, Grace Kelly, that if they did not attend a 10-hour class dealing with pornography and sexual violence, he was considering filing a charge of sexual abuse of a minor against both girls. If convicted, they could serve time in prison and would probably have to register as sex offenders.

It was the same deal that 17 other students ? 13 girls and 4 boys ? accepted by the end of February. All of them either been caught with a cellphone containing pictures of nude or seminude students, or were identified in one or more such photos.

But three students, Marissa, Grace and a third girl who appeared in another photo, along with their mothers, felt the deal was unfair and illegal. On Wednesday, they filed a lawsuit in federal court in Scranton, Pa., against Mr. Skumanick.

They asked the court to stop the district attorney from filing charges against them, contending that his threat to do so was ?retaliation? for the families asserting their First and Fourth Amendment rights to oppose his deal.

?Prosecutors should not be using a nuclear-weapon-type charge like child pornography against kids who have no criminal intent and are merely doing stupid things,? said Witold J. Walczak, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, which represents the families.

Mr. Skumanic said Wednesday that he would oppose the lawsuit and that he did not consider the deal he offered retaliatory.

?I?m simply giving them an option,? said Mr. Skumanic, a Republican who has been district attorney for 20 years and faces re-election again in November. ?We?re not forcing anybody to do anything, Frankly, it?s sad to me that their parents don?t realize this is wrong and they should be encouraging them to take the classes.?

Almost unheard of a year or two ago, sexting cases are popping up with more frequency across the country.

A survey of 1,280 teenagers and young adults released in December by the National Campaign to Prevent Teenage and Unplanned Pregnancy and CosmoGirl.com found that 20 percent of teenagers and 33 percent of young adults ages 20 to 26 said they had sent or posted nude or seminude photos of themselves.

?Is this today?s example of the sky is falling?? said Bill Albert, a spokesman for the campaign, a nonprofit group in Washington. ?No, and I don?t think we need to overreact.?

But since the survey also showed that teenagers who engage in sexting were more likely to have casual sex, Mr. Albert said: ?I think it is something else to address and have a conversation about between teens and parents. Is there a role for law enforcement here? That?s an open question.?

In large part because sexting cases are so new, local communities across the country vary greatly in their handling, from filing child pornography charges against the teenagers involved to alerting parents and letting them deal with it.

Lee Tien, a senior staff lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit group in San Francisco that studies technology issues, said such cases also raise thorny legal issues around the searching of students? cellphones, many of which are seized when they are used during class.

?If they confiscate the phone, that?s reasonable to hold it for the day and return it,? Mr. Tien said. ?But there?s a serious question of whether that justifies going through the cellphone.?

The lawsuit filed Wednesday does not address those issues, or the role Tunkhannock Area High School might have played in the investigation, but Mr. Walczak said the A.C.L.U. was ?assessing possible legal action against the school.?

?Those cellphones contain highly personal information protected by the Fourth Amendment,? he said.

A Tunkhannock lawyer, Gerald Grimaud, said a majority of the district?s 10-member school board informally supports the increased scrutiny of students? cellphones, but Mr. Grimaud faulted school officials for contacting the district attorney after the first photos were found last fall.

?We?re talking about naïve kids getting caught up in these draconian penalties,? Mr. Grimaud said. ?That seems pretty extreme to me.? Other board members did not return calls or could not be reached.
 

K1052

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Maybe the prosecutor will try to get them registered as sex offenders too. :roll:

Hopefully the court kicks his shit in.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Ns1
prosecutor should DIAF

i agree. hope she wins the case. haveing a prosecutor lie to get a "win" is disgusting


a girl in a bra is no worse then her being in a swimming suit.
 

TechBoyJK

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Originally posted by: K1052
Maybe the prosecutor will try to get them registered as sex offenders too. :roll:

Hopefully the court kicks his shit in.

Yea.. I like his "I was just giving them an option"

Granted 10 hours of vids isnt that bad, but i think in that case, EVERY kid shoudl watch it.
 

halik

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ACLU will ream that fucker a new one. Nothing like a prosecutor blackmailing people.
 

WHAMPOM

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Originally posted by: Hyperlite
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03...26sextext.html?src=sch

?They said they had a full-bodied naked picture of me, but I knew I?d never had any naked picture taken of me,? the student, Marissa Miller, 15, recalled of the Feb. 10 telephone call to her mother as the two were having lunch together at Tunkhannock Area High School.
The picture that investigators from the office of District Attorney George P. Skumanick of Wyoming County had was taken two years earlier at a slumber party. It showed Marissa and a friend from the waist up. Both were wearing bras.

so he lied to the families, and is now demanding they accept this deal or do jail time? WTF? how the hell did he even get the pictures? child-Fing-pornography?! Heres the whole thing if it asks you to log in...

When a high school cheerleader in northeastern Pennsylvania learned that she might face criminal charges after investigators reported finding a nude photo of her on someone else?s cellphone, she was more confused than frightened at being caught up in a case of ?sexting?: the increasingly popular phenomenon of nude or seminude photos sent over wireless phones.
?They said they had a full-bodied naked picture of me, but I knew I?d never had any naked picture taken of me,? the student, Marissa Miller, 15, recalled of the Feb. 10 telephone call to her mother as the two were having lunch together at Tunkhannock Area High School. Marissa is a freshman at the school, where her mother, MaryJo, works with special education students.

The picture that investigators from the office of District Attorney George P. Skumanick of Wyoming County had was taken two years earlier at a slumber party. It showed Marissa and a friend from the waist up. Both were wearing bras.

Mr. Skumanick said he considered the photo ?provocative? enough to tell Marissa and the friend, Grace Kelly, that if they did not attend a 10-hour class dealing with pornography and sexual violence, he was considering filing a charge of sexual abuse of a minor against both girls. If convicted, they could serve time in prison and would probably have to register as sex offenders.

It was the same deal that 17 other students ? 13 girls and 4 boys ? accepted by the end of February. All of them either been caught with a cellphone containing pictures of nude or seminude students, or were identified in one or more such photos.

But three students, Marissa, Grace and a third girl who appeared in another photo, along with their mothers, felt the deal was unfair and illegal. On Wednesday, they filed a lawsuit in federal court in Scranton, Pa., against Mr. Skumanick.

They asked the court to stop the district attorney from filing charges against them, contending that his threat to do so was ?retaliation? for the families asserting their First and Fourth Amendment rights to oppose his deal.

?Prosecutors should not be using a nuclear-weapon-type charge like child pornography against kids who have no criminal intent and are merely doing stupid things,? said Witold J. Walczak, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, which represents the families.

Mr. Skumanic said Wednesday that he would oppose the lawsuit and that he did not consider the deal he offered retaliatory.

?I?m simply giving them an option,? said Mr. Skumanic, a Republican who has been district attorney for 20 years and faces re-election again in November. ?We?re not forcing anybody to do anything, Frankly, it?s sad to me that their parents don?t realize this is wrong and they should be encouraging them to take the classes.?

Almost unheard of a year or two ago, sexting cases are popping up with more frequency across the country.

A survey of 1,280 teenagers and young adults released in December by the National Campaign to Prevent Teenage and Unplanned Pregnancy and CosmoGirl.com found that 20 percent of teenagers and 33 percent of young adults ages 20 to 26 said they had sent or posted nude or seminude photos of themselves.

?Is this today?s example of the sky is falling?? said Bill Albert, a spokesman for the campaign, a nonprofit group in Washington. ?No, and I don?t think we need to overreact.?

But since the survey also showed that teenagers who engage in sexting were more likely to have casual sex, Mr. Albert said: ?I think it is something else to address and have a conversation about between teens and parents. Is there a role for law enforcement here? That?s an open question.?

In large part because sexting cases are so new, local communities across the country vary greatly in their handling, from filing child pornography charges against the teenagers involved to alerting parents and letting them deal with it.

Lee Tien, a senior staff lawyer for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a nonprofit group in San Francisco that studies technology issues, said such cases also raise thorny legal issues around the searching of students? cellphones, many of which are seized when they are used during class.

?If they confiscate the phone, that?s reasonable to hold it for the day and return it,? Mr. Tien said. ?But there?s a serious question of whether that justifies going through the cellphone.?

The lawsuit filed Wednesday does not address those issues, or the role Tunkhannock Area High School might have played in the investigation, but Mr. Walczak said the A.C.L.U. was ?assessing possible legal action against the school.?

?Those cellphones contain highly personal information protected by the Fourth Amendment,? he said.

A Tunkhannock lawyer, Gerald Grimaud, said a majority of the district?s 10-member school board informally supports the increased scrutiny of students? cellphones, but Mr. Grimaud faulted school officials for contacting the district attorney after the first photos were found last fall.

?We?re talking about naïve kids getting caught up in these draconian penalties,? Mr. Grimaud said. ?That seems pretty extreme to me.? Other board members did not return calls or could not be reached.

And how many more "provocative" pictures is this prosecutor getting off on? Time for a snoop into his hard drive to see how long he purviews the evidence. Ya think he accuses others of what he does?

edit: spelling.
 

ElFenix

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Hon. George P. Skumanick
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send him mail
 

fleshconsumed

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Ridiculous. A girl in a swimming suit is fine, but a girl in a bra is provocative?

The guy deserves to be sued and removed from his position.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Ns1
prosecutor should DIAF

But then how will he prosecute every middle-school and high-school kid who takes pictures of friends at the beach?! And without this nutjob, who'll prosecute parents who take photos of their toddlers when they're in the tub? Won't somebody please think of the children?!

This idiot needs to be removed from office.

ZV
 

Hyperlite

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Wyoming County
Hon. George P. Skumanick
P.O. Box 209
Tunkhannock PA 18657
(570) 836-4681

send him mail

so....free ipods anyone?
 

chess9

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Someone send him him an artificial vagina so he won't have to masturbate to pics of 13 year old girls! This guy is totally disgusting.

I want to hear someone justify this. Where are the right wing religious nuts when you need them? ;)

-Robert
 

marincounty

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That's great that the ACLU is interested in this case. The ACLU does a lot of good, but gets nothing but grief from righties.

I'm wondering where are all of the right-wing organizations in a case like this?
Where is the Pacific Legal Foundation and other right wing groups that claim they support freedom?

Why is the ACLU the only legal group interested?
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: marincounty
That's great that the ACLU is interested in this case. The ACLU does a lot of good, but gets nothing but grief from righties.

I'm wondering where are all of the right-wing organizations in a case like this?
Where is the Pacific Legal Foundation and other right wing groups that claim they support freedom?

Why is the ACLU the only legal group interested?

they bring it on themselves. I judge the ACLU like our legal system is supposed to be; we catch and convict most of the criminals but not all because we don't want to get the wrong/innocent guys. For every one thing the ACLU may do right, they turn right around and walk over the constitution as the founders wrote it.
 

frostedflakes

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: marincounty
That's great that the ACLU is interested in this case. The ACLU does a lot of good, but gets nothing but grief from righties.

I'm wondering where are all of the right-wing organizations in a case like this?
Where is the Pacific Legal Foundation and other right wing groups that claim they support freedom?

Why is the ACLU the only legal group interested?

they bring it on themselves. I judge the ACLU like our legal system is supposed to be; we catch and convict most of the criminals but not all because we don't want to get the wrong/innocent guys. For every one thing the ACLU may do right, they turn right around and walk over the constitution as the founders wrote it.
?

ACLU is one of the few organizations out there that consistently stands up for our Constitutional rights. Care to provide examples of them walking over the Constitution?
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: marincounty
That's great that the ACLU is interested in this case. The ACLU does a lot of good, but gets nothing but grief from righties.

I'm wondering where are all of the right-wing organizations in a case like this?
Where is the Pacific Legal Foundation and other right wing groups that claim they support freedom?

Why is the ACLU the only legal group interested?

The prosecutor in question is Republican. Right wingers won't go after one of them.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: frostedflakes
Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: marincounty
That's great that the ACLU is interested in this case. The ACLU does a lot of good, but gets nothing but grief from righties.

I'm wondering where are all of the right-wing organizations in a case like this?
Where is the Pacific Legal Foundation and other right wing groups that claim they support freedom?

Why is the ACLU the only legal group interested?

they bring it on themselves. I judge the ACLU like our legal system is supposed to be; we catch and convict most of the criminals but not all because we don't want to get the wrong/innocent guys. For every one thing the ACLU may do right, they turn right around and walk over the constitution as the founders wrote it.
?

ACLU is one of the few organizations out there that consistently stands up for our Constitutional rights. Care to provide examples of them walking over the Constitution?

Yea I liek to see these examples of when the ACLU goes AGAINST the Constitution.

I am thinking he watchs to much faux and listens to Rush/Oreally to get these "examples" and is having a hard time finding them now.

 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: marincounty
That's great that the ACLU is interested in this case. The ACLU does a lot of good, but gets nothing but grief from righties.

I'm wondering where are all of the right-wing organizations in a case like this?
Where is the Pacific Legal Foundation and other right wing groups that claim they support freedom?

Why is the ACLU the only legal group interested?

The prosecutor in question is Republican. Right wingers won't go after one of them.

And that, I believe, is the shift in policy that is primarily responsible for the downfall of the Republican party. Old school R's used to stand up for constitutional rights, regardless of where the "threat" was coming from. New school R's seem to only want to stand up for our rights if the "threat" comes from the D side, and if their "standing up for our rights" won't piss off the religious right / old people / etc...
 

JohnnyGage

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Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Originally posted by: marincounty
That's great that the ACLU is interested in this case. The ACLU does a lot of good, but gets nothing but grief from righties.

I'm wondering where are all of the right-wing organizations in a case like this?
Where is the Pacific Legal Foundation and other right wing groups that claim they support freedom?

Why is the ACLU the only legal group interested?

The prosecutor in question is Republican. Right wingers won't go after one of them.

This stupid shit goes both ways usually. He should be repremanded by the bar. Although if he was affiliated with D(ex. Mike Nifong) after his name you probably wouldn't have known, it might have been conviently left out.

I just think the prosecuter is pissed he didn't get a picture for himself!