Students say they are forced to work on new iPhone 5

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Students say they are forced to work on new iPhone 5
Created: 2012-9-6 1:16:13
Author:Li Qian


THOUSANDS of students in an east China city are being forced to work at a Foxconn plant after classes were suspended at the beginning of the new semester, it has been revealed.

Students from Huai'an in Jiangsu Province were driven to a factory in the city run by Taiwan's Foxconn Technology Company after the plant couldn't find sufficient workers for the production of Apple's much-anticipated iPhone 5, they said in online posts.

A student majoring in computing at the Huaiyin Institute of Technology said 200 students from her school had been driven to the factory.

They started work on the production line last Thursday and were being paid 1,550 yuan (US$243.97) a month for working six days a week, she said.

But they had to pay hundreds of yuan for food and accommodation, she said in an online post under the name of mengniuIQ84.

Several other students from at least five colleges backed up what she said, saying they were being forced to work for 12 hours a day.

Badly disrupted

A Jiangsu Institute of Finance and Economy student called Youyoyu said students from departments of law, English and management were all working at the plant.

A Huai'an University student posting under the name of Dalingzhuimengnan said Foxconn was badly in need of 10,000 workers but students were looking forward to returning to classrooms to continue their academic studies which had been seriously disrupted.

MengniuIQ84 wrote that the authorities had ordered the schools to send students to assist Foxconn but said that the factory neither informed parents nor signed agreements with students.

One or two schools had canceled their internship programs with Foxcon after media exposure and pressure from the public, she said, but her institute had no plans to do so and had even punished students who had tried to leave the factory.

Fear of revenge

Yu Fangqiang, executive director of Nanjing-based Tianxiagong, a non-government organization focusing on policy advocacy regarding social issues, said he wanted to help students take legal action against their schools.

But some refused for fear of schools taking revenge by not allowing them to graduate, he said.

According to a China National Radio report, teachers from local schools admitted suspending routine classes over the next one or two months. They said the internships were a compulsory course for students to "experience working conditions and promote individual ability," the report said.

The Huai'an Education Bureau said they were aware such programs ran during the summer break but did not know that schools had continued them into the new semester.

An official, who refused to be named, said it was a common practice to send students to renowned companies and factories, something that served the enterprises and expanded students' horizons, he said.

"It's hard for students to find jobs which are precisely related to their majors. Therefore, they are encouraged to go to factories to learn more about society," he said.

However, Wu Dong, a lawyer, said the practice violated higher education laws and labor laws and the schools, education and labor rights authorities and Foxconn could be sued.
The sad thing about this is that many Americans who would call for a boycott/protest of agricultural companies that abuse their animals,

would happily wait in line to buy the latest and greatest apple product and rationalize this obvious human labor abuse as none of their business.
 
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If this is true then its really disgusting, just another reason for smaller government.

Your absolutely right on the second point, most Americans dont care about whats happening to these children, as long as they can get it for cheaper then they have no problem
 

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If this is true then its really disgusting, just another reason for smaller government.

Your absolutely right on the second point, most Americans dont care about whats happening to these children, as long as they can get it for cheaper then they have no problem

You and your Republican buds should be thrilled and this is what you want to happen in America.

Student labor at $2 hr or less. Oh My God, the Mega profits.
 
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You and your Republican buds should be thrilled and this is what you want to happen in America.

Student labor at $2 hr or less. Oh My God, the Mega profits.

I am not a republican, maybe we should send you to china and you can work for $2/hour. I am sure the US could afford to lose one less leech
 

Greenman

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You and your Republican buds should be thrilled and this is what you want to happen in America.

Student labor at $2 hr or less. Oh My God, the Mega profits.

How did you get to be such a fucking idiot Dave?

Edit: I agree with the opp, if they were serving those kids broiled kittens for lunch foxcon would be finished in the USA, but because it's just a bunch of Chinese kids no one much cares. Apple will do an i-investigation and determine that this was an accelerated job training program and actually helped the kids in question.
 
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Phokus

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If this is true then its really disgusting, just another reason for smaller government.

Your absolutely right on the second point, most Americans dont care about whats happening to these children, as long as they can get it for cheaper then they have no problem

It's the free market at work.

Gosh, why can't we abolish child labor laws? That's so big government!

The hands of little children are so useful to navigate inside the crevices of the machines.

Also, 7 day/14 hour work weeks teach good work ethics, something we need more of in this country.

Conservatives.txt
 

Matt1970

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Ya gotta love all the Liberal trying to compare Communist China with the Republicans.
 
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It's the free market at work.

Gosh, why can't we abolish child labor laws? That's so big government!

The hands of little children are so useful to navigate inside the crevices of the machines.

Also, 7 day/14 hour work weeks teach good work ethics, something we need more of in this country.

Conservatives.txt

Interesting, I didn't know all Conservatives believe in this

Maybe we should put you and your family into these factories, teach you some good work ethics
 

Greenman

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Interesting, I didn't know all Conservatives believe in this

Maybe we should put you and your family into these factories, teach you some good work ethics

Like how to use your employers resources without permission? I think Dave knows that one.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Humor me: Explain how a 'smaller government' would help prevent this.

Better yet, show me a Republican who made our government smaller in the last 60-70+ years. Total bullshit. That is one of the main reasons I left the party.
 

davmat787

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Better yet, show me a Republican who made our government smaller in the last 60-70+ years. Total bullshit. That is one of the main reasons I left the party.

Can't blame you for leaving, but once you realize the Republican party does not represent conservatives anymore than Democrats do, things become much clearer.
 

mshan

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Be patient, China just might end up getting their schadenfreude: http://seekingalpha.com/article/713691-china-beyond-the-hard-soft-landing-debate


OP's specific topic reminds me of two scenes in the movie set in Great Depression "Kings of the Evening" ( http://www.redbox.com/movies/kings-of-the-evening )

- first scene is where cement factory owner closes down factory, fires everyone, then hands out applications for people who want to reapply for job next day at much lower wage, and

- scene where women working in sewing machine factory where one lady is a few minutes late to work and owner arbitrarily imposes I think 5 cent penalty and lady has to accept penalty because she needs job (I forgot precise details, but another scene in movie mentioned something about weekly wages, so I think 5 cent penalty was at least a good part of one full day's work at that time)
 
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FaaR

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This goes to show what communism/socialism and a strong overpowering government can do to the people.
Lol... This is what the US has come to, a bunch of ignoramuses incapable of either logical or critical thinking.

China is not a communist nation. It hasn't even pretended to be one in anything but name since the 80s when Deng Xiao Ping allowed free market capitalism.

It's just an oppressive one-party dictatorship these days and nothing more. Just like the repugnicans want to turn the US into, I might add.

There is nothing - repeat: NOTHING - socialistic about China. Labor laws, unions, worker protection and so on, all of the socialistic cornerstones, they're all banned in China. Try to start a union, you'll get thrown in jail.

But you silly murricans have been spoonfed the meme that China is communist/socialist since you suckled your mommy's teat and you're too lazy to look for yourself - so that's what it must be!

Super fail for the win! Ignorance is bliss!

*Ptuie!*
 

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Lol... This is what the US has come to, a bunch of ignoramuses incapable of either logical or critical thinking.

China is not a communist nation. It hasn't even pretended to be one in anything but name since the 80s when Deng Xiao Ping allowed free market capitalism.

It's just an oppressive one-party dictatorship these days and nothing more. Just like the repugnicans want to turn the US into, I might add.

There is nothing - repeat: NOTHING - socialistic about China. Labor laws, unions, worker protection and so on, all of the socialistic cornerstones, they're all banned in China. Try to start a union, you'll get thrown in jail.

But you silly murricans have been spoonfed the meme that China is communist/socialist since you suckled your mommy's teat and you're too lazy to look for yourself - so that's what it must be!

Super fail for the win! Ignorance is bliss!

*Ptuie!*

So when was the last you you worked in China? I was there earlier this year.
 

Matt1970

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Lol... This is what the US has come to, a bunch of ignoramuses incapable of either logical or critical thinking.

China is not a communist nation. It hasn't even pretended to be one in anything but name since the 80s when Deng Xiao Ping allowed free market capitalism.

It's just an oppressive one-party dictatorship these days and nothing more. Just like the repugnicans want to turn the US into, I might add.

There is nothing - repeat: NOTHING - socialistic about China. Labor laws, unions, worker protection and so on, all of the socialistic cornerstones, they're all banned in China. Try to start a union, you'll get thrown in jail.

But you silly murricans have been spoonfed the meme that China is communist/socialist since you suckled your mommy's teat and you're too lazy to look for yourself - so that's what it must be!

Super fail for the win! Ignorance is bliss!

*Ptuie!*

The problem when you just make shit up as you go along is that a lot of the time you are wrong.

The People's Republic of China is a single-party state governed by the Communist Party of China.

The Communist Party of China (CPC), also known as the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), is the founding and ruling political party of the People's Republic of China (PRC). Although nominally it exists alongside the United Front, a coalition of governing political parties, in practice, the CPC is the only party in the PRC, maintaining a unitary government and centralizing the state, military, and media. The legal power of the Communist Party is guaranteed by the national constitution. The current party leader is Hu Jintao, who holds the title of General Secretary of the Central Committee.
 

bononos

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So when was the last you you worked in China? I was there earlier this year.

The point is that China is happy to use the rhetoric of socialism but has for decades now been moving in the opposite direction. You don't need to be a PRC citizen or a member of the CCP or a one time tourist to criticize aspects of Chinese politics (any more than you need to be a US citizen to comment on the US).
 

mshan

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"China is a kleptocracy. Get used to it.


I start this analysis with China being a kleptocracy – a country ruled by thieves. That is a bold assertion – but I am going to have to assert it. People I know deep in the weeds (that is people who have to deal with the PRC and the children of the PRC elite) accept it.

My personal experience is more limited but includes the following:

(a). The children and relatives of CPC Central Committee members are amongst the beneficiaries of the wave of stock fraud in the US,

(b). The response to the wave of stock fraud in the US and Hong Kong has not been to crack down on the perpetrators of the stock fraud (so to make markets work better). It has been to make Chinese statutory accounts less available to make it harder to detect stock fraud.

(c). When given direct evidence of fraudulent accounts in the US filed by a large company with CPC family members as beneficiaries or management a big 4 audit firm will (possibly at the risk to their global franchise) sign the accounts knowing full well that they are fraudulent. The auditors (including and arguably especially the big four) are co-opted for the benefit of Chinese kleptocrats.

This however is only the beginning of Chinese fraud. China is a mafia state – and Bo Xilai is just a recent public manifestation. If you want a good guide to the Chinese kleptocracy – including the crimes of Bo Xilai well before they made the international press look at this speech by John Garnaut to the US China Institute."


http://brontecapital.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/macroeconomics-of-chinese-kleptocracy.html



And then they apparently go to Macau to launder the money: http://seekingalpha.com/article/319907-unofficial-money-fleeing-china
http://brontecapital.blogspot.com.au/2012/06/macroeconomics-of-chinese-kleptocracy.html
 
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