Student spits in assistant principals face, AP slaps the s**t out of him :D

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LS20

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My mother was actually a school teacher in Da Mothaland

i liked the discipline. if youre late for monring roll-call, you gotta drop and do pushups. class acting noisy? kneel on classroom benches (instead of sitting on them). individuals got out of line? whack them on the palm or top of the head with a yardstick.

of course it never hurt or did damage... kids that young.. it was all psychological and it trained them to respect teachers/elders... didnt have too many unruly/wily kids when it was HS age.
 

w3stfa11

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: w3stfa11
Originally posted by: NFS4
Hell, we got spanked in grade school when we did stuff bad... WITH A PADDLE. And this was just 20 years ago.

The Pussification of American continues :D

Do you think teens should be spanked with a paddle today?

I think parents should do their job and discipline their children when they are YOUNG so they don't grow up to be ignorant little $h!t$

Very well. I think everyone agrees with that.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
The assistant principal probably shouldn't have slapped the kid, but come on. The kid was totally asking to get beat; he's lucky he only got slapped. It's not like anyone has ever been injured by a slap. If the AP had cold-cocked the kid and knocked him out, I can see getting upset. As it stands, it will teach the student a valuable lesson; don't spit in someone's face unless you're prepared to defend yourself (imagine if this kid had done this to someone outside of school; he'd get his ass kicked).

i think this is exactly why he did it. he is a little coward and thought he was protected.

:evil: "no way is this teacher going to hit me, so im going spit in her face"

:| SLAP

:Q "WTF whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
 

Skunkwourk

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Principal shouldn't have done it, but the kid definitely deserved it.

<--- beaten as a child.
 

jonks

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My parents never hit me or my siblings. We all turned out fine. If they had hit us, we'd probably still have turned out ok. The thing is, in my experience watching kids get spanked in public by their parents, or my brother in law spank my nephews, is the spanking is cathartic for the parent, who hits the child in anger. You can deny this, but when's the last time you saw a parent calmly pick up their misbehaving 3 year old and lay them gently across their lap for a few whacks?

I doubt that there is long term harmful effects in spanking kids, but what's the point in it? If you have to spank your kid more than once a week, clearly, spanking isn't working, is it? My brother in law seems to spank the kids every time they don't listen to him, which, being kids, is every day. No one is learning anything from the experience.

There are tons of misbehaving teens in NYC, and you really think their parents hitting them will deter them from doing anything? If it's used as punishment its about as effective as the death penalty, which is to say not at all.

Why do I think those who are in favor of spanking also are strong 2nd amendment believers?
 

Excelsior

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My parents never hit me or my siblings. We all turned out fine.

See, my situation was the same, but you can't act like that is applicable to every other kid out there. I bet you never spit in a teachers face, right?

I didn't act up because I knew there were consequences and I didn't like to bother people. It is quite simple really. However, that is obviously not applicable to this little sh!t.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Atomic Playboy
The assistant principal probably shouldn't have slapped the kid, but come on. The kid was totally asking to get beat; he's lucky he only got slapped. It's not like anyone has ever been injured by a slap. If the AP had cold-cocked the kid and knocked him out, I can see getting upset. As it stands, it will teach the student a valuable lesson; don't spit in someone's face unless you're prepared to defend yourself (imagine if this kid had done this to someone outside of school; he'd get his ass kicked).

I love how so many people are saying the AP shouldn't have done it, yet they talk about how bad ass they are and if someone were to do the same thing to them they'd get their ass beat. Kind of hypocritical, right?

What the hell is a teacher/principal supposed to think when they can't even defend themselves against insubordinate little fvckers who spit in their face? Sure discipline might have gone overboard in the past, but I don't see how anyone can honestly think that a quick slap in the face isn't a justifiable reaction.

 

novasatori

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why should she not have done this
he assaulted her, and she struck back
where is the problem?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Dumb biatch should have shown some restraint. She needs to get fired.

You're probably some snot-nosed little punk teenager, right? :roll: You think the world owes you something? Ah, no.

And if I should be WRONG (I doubt it) and you're actually an adult that pays his own way in this world; You were raised waaay wrong.

Ding Ding Ding

nah I think you are really the bish that got slapped.

 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: Looney
I would have punched the kid in the throat.

And if I were that kids father, I would rip your throat out.

Obviously, if he's spitting on others you didn't teach him jack. And if you try to rip his throat out, I'll find a CCW to come shoot you. We can play this game all day.

Obviously everyone is an individual and has there own personality. No matter what I would teach my child, they still have the free will to express themselves as they wish.

ahh from the mouth of babes.....
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: MichaelD
Express themselves? You are a mindless tool. I hope you never reproduce. But then again, you're obviously a Birkenstock wearing Liberal...and probably practice an alternative lifestyle...therefore you thankfully will never reproduce.

:) thankfully turds don't count.
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: novasatori
why should she not have done this
he assaulted her, and she struck back
where is the problem?

I'll totally agree with you on this one...working in a downtown Detroit ER as a nurse it is a frequent occurrence to get unruly patients, psych problems, drugs, or sometimes just pissed off and often times these people get restrained and obviously we as nurses are not authorized to use any excessive force(i.e. not hitting, slapping, kicking etc to the patient)

However if security is present it's a different story and the ONE thing you absolutely CANNOT do as a patient is spit at staff it is the cardinal sin to commit in the ER, it will earn you a rather fierce beating especially if security is there. Case in point was this very high and drunk neo-nazi punk white guy dropping n-word everywhere, calling all the white people n-word lovers etc....then when we attempted to restrain him, he spit and attempted to punch a security officer...and that was it..security beat the piss outta that kid...knocked him right out with 2 punches. He certainly behaved after that...and woke up to find himself handcuffed to the bed and being read his rights for assaulting a police officer(since our security is a registered police force)...

Personally I think this a-hole kid should be in handcuffs at the county lock up for a night...and I commend the principal for hitting him...and wish that kinda stuff happened more often...
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Don't be such a tool; law does not dictate morality. Spitting is the not the same thing as punching.

could be worse actually doofus...several diseases can be transmitted through saliva.

Let me guess you got a daily assbeating throughout school and now want to preach we should love our neighbor when they assault us.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: blackllotus
Originally posted by: MichaelD
The main problem with this thread is where it's being discussed. The mean age of ATOT posters is 25 years old...the dreaded Y generation. In the 1970's, students got their ass BEAT by the teachers if they mouthed off. There was no lawsuit. No parents' union.

What neighborhood did you group up in where a wrist slap counted as an ass beating?

WTF? they used a wooden paddle usually. I got whacked a few times. Once on the wind up the dean broke the ceiling tile in the office...I got whacked then had part of the ceiling fall on me.

Are you from the 70's generation, I doubt it?
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: blackllotus
If the only reason your kid doesn't commit a crime is because he is scared of punishment then you really haven't taught him any values at all.

i hate to do it again but QFT.

Unfortunately fear is what keeps many things from happening.

Humans as savages are evil creatures. A society requires rules, in general; rules are followed because of the consequences of violating them.
 

alkemyst

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someone should make a YTDNM.com page with Ktulu's avatar getting slapped with Luniz' "I got 5 on it" playing in the background.
 
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I pity the fool who spit in his Assistant Principals' face.
But even more, I pity the fool who thinks that is a valid form of expression. :disgust:
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: LS20
My mother was actually a school teacher in Da Mothaland

i liked the discipline. if youre late for monring roll-call, you gotta drop and do pushups. class acting noisy? kneel on classroom benches (instead of sitting on them). individuals got out of line? whack them on the palm or top of the head with a yardstick.

of course it never hurt or did damage... kids that young.. it was all psychological and it trained them to respect teachers/elders... didnt have too many unruly/wily kids when it was HS age.

I call shens if you're talking about america... your mom/school would've been sued into the next galaxy.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Ktulu

How can you possibly justify smacking a child that is not yours. It is the parents responsibility to raise and discipline the child not the schools.
Obviously, the parents in this case have failed, or are failing. The school is part of the "raising the chile" process. Teachers have more daily contact with kids than most parents do.

They need the ability to discipline them, although this kid should have gotten a paddling rather than a smack...either way, the kid deserved it.

If that were my kid, they'd get a lot worse when I got ahold of them.

When I was in first grade, we were loading the bus to go home. The kids in the seat behind me were spitting back and forth with the bus sitting next to us. One of them accidently (or not) spit on me, so I got up and spit back.....right as the bus driver and a teacher had walked between the buses to see who was doing it.

Guess who got busted? My dad terrorized my all that night. Kept telling me how much trouble I was in, etc. No spanking, yet. Took me to the bus driver's house (he lived up the street) and made me apologize.
Next morning, he took me to school, and the principal's office, and we had a little pow wow. The principal thought I was sufficiently scared and said "okay, I think he's learned his lesson" and got up to show us out.
My dad then said "No, I think he needs a dose of the belt", and proceeded to take off his belt, told me to put my hands on the principal's desk, and wore my ass out right there. The principal was dumbfounded, and was telling my dad to stop.
He finally did, and I was sent to class crying.

Guess who NEVER got in trouble in school like that again?

Of course, my dad would probably be thrown in jail today for doing the exact same thing.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: LS20
My mother was actually a school teacher in Da Mothaland

i liked the discipline. if youre late for monring roll-call, you gotta drop and do pushups. class acting noisy? kneel on classroom benches (instead of sitting on them). individuals got out of line? whack them on the palm or top of the head with a yardstick.

of course it never hurt or did damage... kids that young.. it was all psychological and it trained them to respect teachers/elders... didnt have too many unruly/wily kids when it was HS age.

I call shens if you're talking about america... your mom/school would've been sued into the next galaxy.

you're not one of those grew up in the 90's emo kids are you?
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
Originally posted by: glutenberg
Originally posted by: Ktulu
Obviously everyone is an individual and has there own personality. No matter what I would teach my child, they still have the free will to express themselves as they wish.

So, by your own logic, his method of expressing himself achieved the appropriate result. Well, I wouldn't say 100% appropriate, since a 100% appropriate response would put some fear into this kid into the way he acted. A stern talk will not do that.

Neither will a slap to the face. If the child is violent they will act out no matter what.
Not really....because unless the child is stupid, then they won't spit on a teacher that they know will smack them upside the head.
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ktulu


Just take a look at our prisons.

Yes, our prisons are filled with kids who could do no wrong in their parents eyes. Kids who needed discipline in school and saddled with teachers who were forbidden to do so.

In short, our prisons are filled with the product of your line of thinking.

prisons are full of people who were taught that violence solves problems. If a parent only gives his children violence when they do something wrong, then all that child will know when something wrong is done to them is violence.
They weren't taught that violence solves problems, they were NOT taught a good core set of values, which goes hand in hand with discipline. And discipline isn't always an ass-beating, either.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Ktulu

How can you possibly justify smacking a child that is not yours. It is the parents responsibility to raise and discipline the child not the schools.
Obviously, the parents in this case have failed, or are failing. The school is part of the "raising the chile" process. Teachers have more daily contact with kids than most parents do.

They need the ability to discipline them, although this kid should have gotten a paddling rather than a smack...either way, the kid deserved it.

If that were my kid, they'd get a lot worse when I got ahold of them.

When I was in first grade, we were loading the bus to go home. The kids in the seat behind me were spitting back and forth with the bus sitting next to us. One of them accidently (or not) spit on me, so I got up and spit back.....right as the bus driver and a teacher had walked between the buses to see who was doing it.

Guess who got busted? My dad terrorized my all that night. Kept telling me how much trouble I was in, etc. No spanking, yet. Took me to the bus driver's house (he lived up the street) and made me apologize.
Next morning, he took me to school, and the principal's office, and we had a little pow wow. The principal thought I was sufficiently scared and said "okay, I think he's learned his lesson" and got up to show us out.
My dad then said "No, I think he needs a dose of the belt", and proceeded to take off his belt, told me to put my hands on the principal's desk, and wore my ass out right there. The principal was dumbfounded, and was telling my dad to stop.
He finally did, and I was sent to class crying.

Guess who NEVER got in trouble in school like that again?

Of course, my dad would probably be thrown in jail today for doing the exact same thing.

That's how it should be done. To bad too many pussy parents out there try to blame others when their kids do wrong.
 

MrPickins

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Back in grade school and Jr High my principals had written authorization to use the paddle on me if needed (and it was :(). Also, both of my parents were teachers in the same school district, so they knew about when I got into trouble before I even got home ,where I then had to deal with my dad.

Needless to say, I quickly learned not to get into trouble (at school anyway ;)).

Personally I wish it was still the same way. My parents are still teachers, and every year their stories about their students gets worse and worse. Hell, one kid threw a desk at my dad, and somehow he caught it (my dad's a big guy).