"Structural Issue" with support columns in an MBTA subway in Boston.

VirtualLarry

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Won't someone think of the children infrastructure???


I remember something, I think it was in Boston, losing part of a suspension bridge, or something? Just remember talking to someone once, right after it happened, and they were like, "Yeah, if it had happened 15 minutes earlier, I wouldn't be here talking to you."

That was like 15-20 years ago.
 

pete6032

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Not surprising. Public transportation infrastructure is ignored until it is inoperable rather than properly maintained. Same thing in DC, New York, Chicago. Really sad honestly.

Happened in Chicago twice in the same spot just a few years apart.
 
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This fucking parking garage again... Automobiles are the gift that keep on giving when it comes to ruining cities.

Not surprising. Public transportation infrastructure is ignored until it is inoperable rather than properly maintained. Same thing in DC, New York, Chicago. Really sad honestly.
It doesn't help that US public transit agencies consistently fail to follow worldwide best practices for both maintenance and expansion, resulting in them being inefficient money pits. Fixing infrastructure is fine and it's fine to pay for it; but the public is somewhat right to get fed up when projects cost an order of magnitude more money than comparably developed countries. It also doesn't help with the fractured nature of how we fund and operate public transit. So much missed opportunity here...
 
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MBTA has been on differed maintenance for too long. Time to spend some money on upgrades.
While I haven’t ridden on it for years it was a mess during the years I rode it.
 

Greenman

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Won't someone think of the children infrastructure???


I remember something, I think it was in Boston, losing part of a suspension bridge, or something? Just remember talking to someone once, right after it happened, and they were like, "Yeah, if it had happened 15 minutes earlier, I wouldn't be here talking to you."

That was like 15-20 years ago.
There was a tunnel in Boston that had a steel ceiling collapse around that time frame.
 

allisolm

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I believe there were about 100 dead from the condo collapse in FL that was due to the failure of garage support columns. No a good thing to skip maintenance on.

 
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K1052

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There was a tunnel in Boston that had a steel ceiling collapse around that time frame.

Concrete panels attached to the ceiling of the Fort Point Channel Tunnel as I recall. Squished a car and killed somebody. Undersized bolts and bad epoxy were to blame.
 

Zeze

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Every god damn president has a 'infrastructure week' every god damn year.

WTF does it do?
 
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Every god damn president has a 'infrastructure week' every god damn year.

WTF does it do?
I don't really care about the issue at the federal level, when that is largely related to funding. My main issue is with state agencies that become de facto political patronage positions that have hollowed out any expertise in actually doing their job forcing them to rely on expensive consultants and ineffective bicameral state legislatures that can't provide effective oversight or pass laws (and on that latter note - we should really abolish bicameral state governments in favor of unicameral systems; there is no rationale reason to have split houses at the state level beyond creating more veto points).
 
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Greenman

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Concrete panels attached to the ceiling of the Fort Point Channel Tunnel as I recall. Squished a car and killed somebody. Undersized bolts and bad epoxy were to blame.
I thought it was strictly the epoxy that failed? Isn't that when they discovered that epoxy under constant tension always fails because it stretches?
 

Ajay

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Concrete panels attached to the ceiling of the Fort Point Channel Tunnel as I recall. Squished a car and killed somebody. Undersized bolts and bad epoxy were to blame.
Hey, the Boston mob has got to get it’s cut somehow. Buy low, sell high.
 
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Hey, the Boston mob has got to get it’s cut somehow. Buy low, sell high.

Nah their back got broken in the late 80s to early 90s, they’re nearly non existent now. I believe the majority of their revenue comes from hijacking trucks.