Stronghold Crusader 2 looks bad

[Kalmah]

Geez, Firefly hasn't gotten this game right since the original Crusader. I was excited when I heard about this new one coming out this month until I watched this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej8t2xoRmwA

Combat units walking through each other, swiping their swords at the air to attack, when walking from a wall to a front gate while on the wall they walk through the wall and teleport to the ground, Harry Potter style. This was acceptable back when the originals were released 15 years ago.

It just seems like they refuse to upgrade the core game mechanics and instead make minor gameplay and graphic changes. If they would adopt a Total War style fighting mechanism and provide more strategic elements to the castle walls (instead of just placing thick chunks of wall) they would still have a good game.

The game looks nice at a glance.

I'm disappointed that I will be let down again. I really miss this series.

 

[mizzou]

Stronghold Crusader was great. I own the box set and it's pretty much the greatest of the series. I think the EXTREME version had a few better improvements? Been a while.

 

[JumBie]

Lets see which one is going to be worse, this or stronghold 3.

 

[Skott]

I dont think its as bad as SH3. Its not suppose to be SH3 or TW. Its suppose to be a successor to Crusader 1. People who think all these games should be like TW are going to be dissapointed. We'll have to wait and see how this one turns out. They delayed it 3 or 4 weeks for more polishing.

 

[inachu]

I like to cheat in that game. Not just to win but population hacks for both sides so the war becomes super bloody.

Sometimes game hacks is not about cheating at all but to enhance the experience.

 

[CPA]

Well, this is "Pre-Alpha" footage, so hopefully some of this is fixed.

 

[Skott]

I've looked at all the videos they have and from what they are showing its looking good. People have to remember this is Crusader and not some other game like TW or something other like it. It is a totally different game design from those types of games. Its based on the Crusader series and will look similar and play similar to it. Hopefully its good game play at release. If they screw this up like they did with SH3 I'd say they are done as a gaming studio. This is their last chance to convince people they can make a good game. In my thinking anyway. Hopefully they hit it out of the ball park as the saying goes.

 

[JumBie]

I've looked at all the videos they have and from what they are showing its looking good. People have to remember this is Crusader and not some other game like TW or something other like it. It is a totally different game design from those types of games. Its based on the Crusader series and will look similar and play similar to it. Hopefully its good game play at release. If they screw this up like they did with SH3 I'd say they are done as a gaming studio. This is their last chance to convince people they can make a good game. In my thinking anyway. Hopefully they hit it out of the ball park as the saying goes.

No one is expecting it to be a Total War clone. Those who know about Stronghold know exactly what to expect, the problem is Stronghold 3 fell short and I am not expecting this to be too far off that train. If they wanted to succeed in 2014/2015 stronghold needs to be a castle simulator where you can customize your castle inside and out, with an plethora of defenses and units. Someone needs to make a clone and throw up a kickstarter because as far as I am concerned Stronghold is a dead series.

 

[Kalmah]

Yeah, I feel like this game needs to mature. It seems like they don't take everything seriously enough. It's like, here's some walls, here's some units, they fight; we have a game. It needs more avenues of strategy. Give it more of a rock paper scissors mechanic(polearms for cavalry, cavalary for swordsman, swordsman for polearms...)

I'm not trying to say it needs to copy total war games, but it needs formations, morale, fatigue.. maybe have commander units, espionage... I really could go on and on.

Maybe it does have some of this. I don't know but it doesn't look like it.