Stronger pot causes policy shift

[gigapet]

Stronger pot causes policy shift


proceed

 

[Gunslinger08]

I love that url. reefer.madness.

 

[Platypus]

lol what a load of sh!t

 

[royaldank]

What a crock of sh!t. Study after study has shown that a person will smoke enough to get high. If the weed is more potent, then they are smoking less. Simply put, better weed is better for you given that you are going to smoke it at all.

Also remember that our very own government sends 5 people pot in the mail each and every week for medicinal purposes. Bunch of f'n hipocrites.

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: royaldank
What a crock of sh!t. Study after study has shown that a person will smoke enough to get high. If the weed is more potent, then they are smoking less. Simply put, better weed is better for you given that you are going to smoke it at all.

Also remember that our very own government sends 5 people people in the mail each and every week for medicinal purposes. Bunch of f'n hipocrites.

5 people people ?

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: royaldank
Also remember that our very own government sends 5 people people in the mail each and every week for medicinal purposes. Bunch of f'n hipocrites.

I had to get a bigger mailbox due to all the people people I received in the mail.

 

[royaldank]

It was originally more, but I believe only 5 people in the program are still alive at this point and receiving pot from the government.

 

[Eli]

Well, this will be fun.

I don't agree with the articles slant(or maybe I'm reading into it,), but..

So officials at the National Institutes of Health and at the White House are hoping to shift some of the focus in research and enforcement from "hard" drugs such as cocaine and heroin to marijuana.

I highly doubt that will end up being a bad thing.

Come on folks. Your lungs weren't designed to inhale smoke. It's bad for you.

How many people care? Not many. Even fewer if you count tobacco smokers.



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According to the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project, average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, rose steadily from 3.5 percent in 1988 to more than 7 percent in 2003.

So what?

This is why we need more "research". If you smoke too much pot, you fall asleep. If you smoke "low grade" stuff, you're just going to have to smoke more to get stoned than the "high grade" stuff. Higher THC content is better not because it gets you higher, but because.. it's just better. You don't have to smoke as much, for one.

"I would predict that stronger pot makes the brain less likely to respond to endogenous cannabinoids," Volkow said in an interview. The effects could be especially marked in young brains still growing and learning how to respond to stimuli, she said.

Absolutely.

Kids shouldn't do drugs, period. Nothing new here.

Proponents of legalizing marijuana disagree with the official line. Krissy Oechslin of the Marijuana Policy Project disputes the finding that cannabis products are stronger.

"They make it sound like the THC levels in marijuana were almost nonexistent, but no one would have smoked it then if that was true," she said.

She has obviously smoked too much. It was almost nonexistant.. at least compared to what we have now.

"And there's evidence that the stronger the THC, the less of it a person smokes. I don't want to say it's good for you, but I'll say (more potent marijuana) is less bad for you."

Well, at least she has that part right.

While Walters stresses that drug abusers are patients and not criminals, he hopes to crack down more on producers. And he says, there is a way to go in getting cooperation from local law enforcement officials. "For many in enforcement, marijuana is still 'kiddie dope'," Walters said.

Right.

Like you can stop people from growing houseplants. This is the wrong direction.


Overall, this isn't a bad thing. More research is never bad. They'll probably learn that it's less harmful than cigarettes(once you're an adult), and maybe it will lead to it being legalized for adults.

According to the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project, average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, rose steadily from 3.5 percent in 1988 to more than 7 percent in 2003.

Oh, and I must also comment on this.

THC levels in some of the extremely potent lineages can reach 15% or more..

 

[royaldank]

Overall, this isn't a bad thing. More research is never bad. They'll probably learn that it's less harmful than cigarettes(once you're an adult), and maybe it will lead to it being legalized for adults.

I doubt that. The government for years has paid for test after test and study after study. All have shown it's far less dangerous than alcohol and cigarettes. This doesn't please the government so they tuck it away and disregard.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: royaldank

Overall, this isn't a bad thing. More research is never bad. They'll probably learn that it's less harmful than cigarettes(once you're an adult), and maybe it will lead to it being legalized for adults.

I doubt that. The government for years has paid for test after test and study after study. All have shown it's far less dangerous than alcohol and cigarettes. This doesn't please the government so they tuck it away and disregard.

Or maybe they like their cotton shirts too much.

 

[Amused]

Many of you may not be old enough to remember, but this SAME type of (pot is stronger, so it's now dangerous) story was passed out a decade ago, and a decade before that.

It's the same old tired BS. What is amazing to me is that the drug warriors seem to think the people have no memory.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: royaldank

Overall, this isn't a bad thing. More research is never bad. They'll probably learn that it's less harmful than cigarettes(once you're an adult), and maybe it will lead to it being legalized for adults.

I doubt that. The government for years has paid for test after test and study after study. All have shown it's far less dangerous than alcohol and cigarettes. This doesn't please the government so they tuck it away and disregard.

Or maybe they like their cotton shirts too much.

Exactly.

It's fscking disgusting.

:|

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Eli
Well, this will be fun.

I don't agree with the articles slant(or maybe I'm reading into it,), but..

So officials at the National Institutes of Health and at the White House are hoping to shift some of the focus in research and enforcement from "hard" drugs such as cocaine and heroin to marijuana.

I highly doubt that will end up being a bad thing.

Come on folks. Your lungs weren't designed to inhale smoke. It's bad for you.

How many people care? Not many. Even fewer if you count tobacco smokers.



...

According to the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project, average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, rose steadily from 3.5 percent in 1988 to more than 7 percent in 2003.

So what?

This is why we need more "research". If you smoke too much pot, you fall asleep. If you smoke "low grade" stuff, you're just going to have to smoke more to get stoned than the "high grade" stuff. Higher THC content is better not because it gets you higher, but because.. it's just better. You don't have to smoke as much, for one.

"I would predict that stronger pot makes the brain less likely to respond to endogenous cannabinoids," Volkow said in an interview. The effects could be especially marked in young brains still growing and learning how to respond to stimuli, she said.

Absolutely.

Kids shouldn't do drugs, period. Nothing new here.

Proponents of legalizing marijuana disagree with the official line. Krissy Oechslin of the Marijuana Policy Project disputes the finding that cannabis products are stronger.

"They make it sound like the THC levels in marijuana were almost nonexistent, but no one would have smoked it then if that was true," she said.

She has obviously smoked too much. It was almost nonexistant.. at least compared to what we have now.

"And there's evidence that the stronger the THC, the less of it a person smokes. I don't want to say it's good for you, but I'll say (more potent marijuana) is less bad for you."

Well, at least she has that part right.

While Walters stresses that drug abusers are patients and not criminals, he hopes to crack down more on producers. And he says, there is a way to go in getting cooperation from local law enforcement officials. "For many in enforcement, marijuana is still 'kiddie dope'," Walters said.

Right.

Like you can stop people from growing houseplants. This is the wrong direction.


Overall, this isn't a bad thing. More research is never bad. They'll probably learn that it's less harmful than cigarettes(once you're an adult), and maybe it will lead to it being legalized for adults.

According to the University of Mississippi's Marijuana Potency Project, average levels of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, rose steadily from 3.5 percent in 1988 to more than 7 percent in 2003.

Oh, and I must also comment on this.

THC levels in some of the extremely potent lineages can reach 15% or more..

well around here about 95% of all the bud comes from BC, so law enforcement could have some kinda of effect on that. However even if you have extremly potent weed, there's only so much THC your body can handle before being "so high you dont even know whats going on". You'll end up smoking less with high grade cannabis, mostly because
a) it will cost more so you can afford less with the same budget
b) high grade will get you the same experience with a smaller amount.

There was a study done by some univeristy couple years ago and they came to a conclusion that you need to smoke 12lbs of weed to DIE from thc overdose. So lets say there thc content was 5% at that point. With pot thats 40% THC, you'd still need to smoke 1.5 LB to die from the overdose....

I have yet to see anyone smoke anything over 5 grams...

 

[Chiboy]

Weed is not as bad as alcohol and cigarettes, thats all there is to it. I dont know why its not legal but it should be.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: halik
There was a study done by some univeristy couple years ago and they came to a conclusion that you need to smoke 12lbs of weed to DIE from thc overdose. So lets say there thc content was 5% at that point. With pot thats 40% THC, you'd still need to smoke 1.5 LB to die from the overdose....

That may be true in theory, but I contend that it is impossible to die from a "THC overdose".

If you didn't pass out from being too stoned, you would surely pass out from smoke inhilation before you actually died.

Besides... this whole thing is absolutely, 100% alarmist horsesh!t.

Has nobody ever heard of hashish?

Good hash is virtually 100% THC. Where do you think the term "1 hit wonder" came from?

 

[Encryptic]

Can we get a new thread designation like YAMFT (Yet Another Marijuana Flamewar Thread)?

I'm not even going to get into this discussion again, considering that it'll just degrade into another flamewar between the pro-marijuana people (like myself) and the anti-marijuana people (you know who you are) and spawn multiple pages of crap before the mods finally lock it.

I'm just going to say that Eli's made some very good points and leave it at that. :beer: (Hmm...should this be a joint or bong emoticon instead?)

 

[royaldank]

I love sprinking some hash on my joints when I'm in Amsterdam. Man, you get buzzed so quick.

 

[tranceport]

While drug use overall is falling among children and teenagers, the officials worry that the children who are trying pot are doing so at ever-younger ages, when their brains and bodies are vulnerable to dangerous side effects.

So it isn't dangerous for adults?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: tranceport

While drug use overall is falling among children and teenagers, the officials worry that the children who are trying pot are doing so at ever-younger ages, when their brains and bodies are vulnerable to dangerous side effects.

So it isn't dangerous for adults?

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
lol what a load of sh!t

End of thread.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
lol what a load of sh!t

End of thread.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: Amused
It's the same old tired BS. What is amazing to me is that the drug warriors seem to think the people have no memory.

Actually, Amused, some don't!

 

[Leetman]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
lol what a load of sh!t

End of thread.

Agreed.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Leetman

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
lol what a load of sh!t

End of thread.

Agreed.

I had the same initial reaction, but the article doesen't really say anything that we don't already know. Reading through it again, I actually enjoy it for that reason, because it doesen't make obviously overzealous assertions about cannabis.

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: tranceport

While drug use overall is falling among children and teenagers, the officials worry that the children who are trying pot are doing so at ever-younger ages, when their brains and bodies are vulnerable to dangerous side effects.

So it isn't dangerous for adults?

I would like to know what the dangerous side effects are in the first place.

could it be:

You get stoned and are seriously relaxed?

You get lazy?

You get the munchies?

Oh, I know what those dangerous side effects are now:

If you get stoned, you get lazy and hungry and therefore you get fat.

Ergo: smoking pot leads to obesity.

Thank God the Government is there spending all that money and effort to save us all from that misfortune.

:roll: