Well my sister just got a Dell Dimension 4500 and it is incredibly quiet... I mean you can't hear it at all. I looked inside and saw their design of the heatsink, vent shaft, 80-90 mm fan. I was wondering if there are any 3rd parties that make this kind of design for ATX cases? I was amazed and jealous how quiet it was. Everything in my current comp is quiet enough except for the fan on my CPU, so I'm thinking of trying to do something like Dell has or just find a good combo of good heatsink/quiet fan