Strange review of LOTR, and the reviewer does not like it at all

TallBill

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buykingdom.com :) rofl... btw, they didnt necesarily hate it for content.. simply because they thought it was unchristianlike.. blah
 

IndyJaws

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Heh, heh, heh. Some funny quotes:

One of the 20 rings, named "My Precious", possessed the power to give the wearer power of global proportion.

After more than 500 movies I suspect I can say with credibility that any of the imagery of evil you have seen before now does not match the evil in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. And there are two more Lord of the Rings coming.

There are inevitable comparisons being drawn between Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone and The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring by the secular worldview and the Christian faith. Comparisons are not being drawn between the two movies under any other "religion" I am aware of, not the Muslim or Tao or Jewish faiths or any other faith, just the Christian faith which is under more attack than any other faith. Maybe the Christian faith is under attack [by the adversary though the unbelievers] because it is the "right one": the one faith that poses the greatest and maybe the only real threat to the adversary.

I am not going to try to debate the claims that Tolkien's Rings trilogy parallels shards of the Truth shattered from the Bible. Satan is very good at making the truth into a lie through the most innocent vehicles and by the least obvious methods.

Offense to God
[*]claim of immortality
[*]thousands of demonic beings of various sort, some extremely graphic
[*]many uses and portrayals of wizardry/sorcery
[*]many threats by unholy things
[*]multiple battles with sorcery using sorcery, some very, very graphic
[*]many attacks by evil beings, some (especially one) very, very hideous
[*]portray that being stabbed by an evil being's sword will make the victim evil
[*]many instances of demonic faces/eyes
[*]unholy control of the elements to fight evil
[*]claims of immortality
[*]ability to chose unholy mortality or immortality
[*]many mystic voices
[*]sorcery to open mountain wall
[*]light by sorcery

Different strokes for different folks, I guess :confused:

Edit: Cleaning up html
 

ratkil

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Wow, it must be tough going through life taking things sooooooo seriously. It's a friggin' movie!
 

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This movie is likely another maneuver to capitalize on the new found infatuation of visually oriented youth with bright and dazzling display of the occult, witchcraft and evil.

Whatever - the series was written half a century ago and I'm sure from day one people wanted to see it done as an excellent movie. Not until recently do we have the technology to really pull it off.

You know I really actually hate people who write sh*t like that. An opinion is one thing but I hate to see a human mind go to waste and revel in it's own fetid idiocy.
 

Ameesh

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Apr 3, 2001
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what do you expect from a site like that? they probably advocate book burnings and lychings too.
 

BigJohnKC

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The writer of that one must have said some naughty words - my company's firewall/filter software won't let me read the majority of the document. Can someone reproduce the text here?

BTW, from what I read of the article, it seems that the guy needs to lighten up. A Christian perspective? Right......well, I am a Christian, and I see it different....it's a friggin' movie!!
 

Bulk Beef

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Oooohhhh, LOTR got an Offense to God score of zero.:QGuess I'll have to give it a pass... NOT.
 

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text for people who can't get to it:

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring earned a CAP score of 59, numerically equivalent to PG-13 movies in the analysis model comparative baseline database of movies. But as one of the great features of the CAP analysis model, note the scoring distribution in the Findings/Scoring section. I am going to take a moment to discuss the scoring distribution in some detail here for the benefit of our subscribers to the newsletter which provides text-only of this Summary/Commentary.

First, remember that deaths as the result of warfare/battle or police action are not incorporated into the scoring as murder but are incorporated into the Wanton Violence/Crime investigation area. Also remember that while any single issue of aberrant behavior may fit into two or more of the six CAP investigation areas, only one is permitted. For example, a graphic death by sorcery may be incorporated into either Wanton Violence/Crime OR Offense to God OR Murder/Suicide, but only into one. No duplication is assured.

Now note that this PG-13 movie had no foul language and no sexual issues of any kind which is extremely atypical of PG-13 movies. BUT, the Wanton Violence/Crime and Offense to God scores were both zero, indicating an extremely graphic movie in violence and extremely concentrated in unholy/evil issues. Therein lies a useful feature provided only by the copyrighted CAP analysis model--an assessment method not possible by any other movie rating system known on the entire planet. There is one other movie rating outfit which has mimicked the CAP model from its start, but that is all it is -- a mimicry. And it does not have the CAP Thermometers. Nor the more than 40 mathematical equations in every report. Nor the Rock-solid investigation standards.

The Tolkien trilogy in book form is more than 1000 pages. I guess that explains why this first of three Rings trilogy is 170 minutes long! Great day in the morning! Three hours! But all is not lost in boredom and bathroom. The story is relatively attention-keeping though often dream-like. The scenery is breath-taking. The computer aided choreography made this movie a masterpiece of its own and a tribute to technology. The blending of extremes of imagination with down to earth and believable emotions is masterful. The performers are obviously experienced and compatible with their parts. Such a combination of talents and skills to create an absorbable story is indeed an influence which must be given somber and diligent thought because this is another story of witchcraft, sorcery and wizardry. The opulence and immensity of this book-to-film is truly a contender for your mind especially the impressionable mind.

In a middle-earth world, Frodo Baggins (Elijah Wood) meets Gandalf the Grey (Ian McKlellan) as Gandalf travels to see Bilbo Baggins (Ian Holm) to find the 20th of 20 special rings: a rings that wants to be found. The 20 rings were created with special powers. One of the 20 rings, named "My Precious", possessed the power to give the wearer power of global proportion. The one ring conjured in the wearer insane lust. Bilbo Baggins is in possession of the one ring. To save the world, the ring must be destroyed but it cannot be destroyed except by the same fires that fashioned it, the fires of Mount Doom. So that is what Frodo, Gandalf and seven additional characters ... the Fellowship of the Ring ... set out to do.

This movie is likely another maneuver to capitalize on the new found infatuation of visually oriented youth with bright and dazzling display of the occult, witchcraft and evil. It is another presentation of using evil to fight evil. And it presents sorcery as both "good" and bad. Violently. Grotesquely. While the story being based on evil fighting evil with evil is bad enough, it is clear the filmmakers capitalized on extremism. Tolkien certainly described the evil and demonic characters in his novel quite grotesquely but not nearly as hideous and vile as those in this movie. After more than 500 movies I suspect I can say with credibility that any of the imagery of evil you have seen before now does not match the evil in The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. And there are two more Lord of the Rings coming.

Such a comparison follows since both present wizards, sorcery and evil magic and both titillate the skyrocketing popularity of mystical occult in movies in the shadow of the attack on Christianity, feeding on it and nurturing it at the same time. Both movies use evil as good: "white magic" to fight dark and evil occult forces. Both present fine personal qualities in characters with heroic missions to defeat evil. And both present the use of evil, namely witchcraft and sorcery, as a tool for good. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone is targeted at the preteen and the early teen and thus boasts a less complicated story. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring is much more sophisticated and requires deeper thought to fathom its story, this making the older teen and young adult its target audience. The Christian faith is being hit at all impressionable ages, folks. And there is more coming.

I am not going to try to debate the claims that Tolkien's Rings trilogy parallels shards of the Truth shattered from the Bible. Satan is very good at making the truth into a lie through the most innocent vehicles and by the least obvious methods. Nor am I going to try to debate the involvement of C. S. Lewis in Tolkien's life who placed the Gospel on the level of a myth in 1931 after a dinner with Tolkien:

"Now the story of Christ is simply a true myth: a myth working on us the same way as the others, but with this tremendous difference that it Really happened: and one must be content to accept it in the same way, remembering that it is God's myth where the others are men's myths..."

If you wish to delve deeper into these matters let me suggest you visit the source of the above quotation, .

The bottom line is that God clearly commands that witchcraft, sorcery and wizardry are evil. He gives no situations under which these evils are not evil: no conditions under which these evils may be tolerated. There is no such thing as a "good" witch. Not even Wendy.
 

Train

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sheeeeesh, and people are afraid of Muslim extremists???

I dont know whats scarier, a Muslim who want to kill me cuz im a christian/capitalist/whatever, or a christian who says I'm evil for watching a good movie.

The doctor will see you now.
 

mithrandir2001

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Just another reason why I am no long Christian...

<Shudder> Just more submissive mind control. Geez. I guess that because I play D&D I have been exposed to unholy devices and evil. Gimme a break. As someone has said here before, it matters not what your imagination conjures or what you mind desires to read, but how you act as a human being. I wonder if the author of this article embraces compassion for all of his fellow men or if he is just another bible-throwing bigot.
 

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I guess that because I play D&D

WTF? I never knew this about you. Get help now. Confess! Evil, satanic, anti-christ that you are! Ye shall burn for ye sins if you don't confess in the house of God!!!!!!

"South Park is another movie straight from the smoking pits of Hell" AHhhaha, maybe I should rent it again.
 

SaltBoy

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Thank goodness for Screenit.com. I try to keep a look out for what a movie's content is before I see it, but I sure don't like people telling me whether what's on the screen is "evil" or not.
 



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Look at the title of the page. About as solid a source as the geocities site on how masturbation is wrong.
 

kami

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Oct 9, 1999
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lol...i'll never get why they think a story about good overcoming evil is the work of satan. maybe they should look at the whole picture...but then again, that type is too narrow-minded to do that in the first place.
 

MrHelpful

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Why the hell would Christians want to analyze American society? I mean, I find nothing wrong with statisicians doing it, but why try to impose your judgement?
 

Electric Amish

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<< "South Park is another movie straight from the smoking pits of Hell" >>



Great! So what does that say about those of us that OWN it?? ;)

amish

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On second thought, this guy's a genious!! He gets to see all the "unholy" movies so that he can tell everyone NOT to see them. He gets to go to heaven even after seeing them because he is "saving" everyone else!!

That does it. I will save all of you! I will now start reviewing as many pornographic writings and films as I possibly can. I won't enjoy this, but it's for the good of all your souls!! ;)

amish