Strange Icons next to straight ticket party on Indiana Ballot

DefDC

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On the early voting (absentee) ballot showed the following icons next to the party:

Republican: Eagle

Independent: Statue of Liberty

Democrat: Chicken




WTF? I know Indiana is a red state, but JESUS CHRIST.

 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Hey, didn't Franklin think the chicken would be better than an eagle?

No. That would be the turkey and he was right. Yes I know, a turkey is seen as a coward, but I think he was going on the lines of a respectable/noble bird compared to a scavenger (eagle).
 
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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Hey, didn't Franklin think the chicken would be better than an eagle?

No. That would be the turkey and he was right. Yes I know, a turkey is seen as a coward, but I think he was going on the lines of a respectable/noble bird compared to a scavenger (eagle).

I don't think Eagles, Hawks, Falcons or even Condor's are carrion eaters, those are in the vulture family. I could be wrong, I think Eagles only go after moving (live) prey.

And I think it's pretty crappy if this is true.
 

NoStateofMind

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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Hey, didn't Franklin think the chicken would be better than an eagle?

No. That would be the turkey and he was right. Yes I know, a turkey is seen as a coward, but I think he was going on the lines of a respectable/noble bird compared to a scavenger (eagle).

I don't think Eagles, Hawks, Falcons or even Condor's are carrion eaters, those are in the vulture family. I could be wrong, I think Eagles only go after moving (live) prey.

And I think it's pretty crappy if this is true.

http://litestraboen.blogspot.c...avenger-ugly-bird.html

Benjamin Franklin never supported the bald eagle for the United States symbol. He said about it, in a letter to his daughter, that "it is a bird of bad moral character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him." Franklin proposed the turkey as the symbol, a truly brave and arrogant bird according to him.

A little history there.
 
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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Hey, didn't Franklin think the chicken would be better than an eagle?

No. That would be the turkey and he was right. Yes I know, a turkey is seen as a coward, but I think he was going on the lines of a respectable/noble bird compared to a scavenger (eagle).

I don't think Eagles, Hawks, Falcons or even Condor's are carrion eaters, those are in the vulture family. I could be wrong, I think Eagles only go after moving (live) prey.

And I think it's pretty crappy if this is true.

http://litestraboen.blogspot.c...avenger-ugly-bird.html

Benjamin Franklin never supported the bald eagle for the United States symbol. He said about it, in a letter to his daughter, that "it is a bird of bad moral character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him." Franklin proposed the turkey as the symbol, a truly brave and arrogant bird according to him.

A little history there.


Cool, thanks. I didn't know that, I always remember seeing videos of them grabbing fish from streams, lakes etc, by swooping in and snagging them.
 

ScottyB

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Hey, didn't Franklin think the chicken would be better than an eagle?

No. That would be the turkey and he was right. Yes I know, a turkey is seen as a coward, but I think he was going on the lines of a respectable/noble bird compared to a scavenger (eagle).

I don't think Eagles, Hawks, Falcons or even Condor's are carrion eaters, those are in the vulture family. I could be wrong, I think Eagles only go after moving (live) prey.

And I think it's pretty crappy if this is true.

http://litestraboen.blogspot.c...avenger-ugly-bird.html

Benjamin Franklin never supported the bald eagle for the United States symbol. He said about it, in a letter to his daughter, that "it is a bird of bad moral character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him." Franklin proposed the turkey as the symbol, a truly brave and arrogant bird according to him.

A little history there.

Sounds very American to me.
 

351Cleveland

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LOL... as a Hoosier, I have to laugh my butt off. PLEASE tell me there is a picture of that someplace!
 

shiner

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Been that way for a long long time.

In some states symbols were printed on ballots so illiterate voters could readily spot their party. The Democrats did not use the donkey. They used the rooster. Why? I don't know.


Apparently it started in Indiana. Greenfield to be exact. Link
 

IronWing

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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti

I don't think Eagles, Hawks, Falcons or even Condor's are carrion eaters, those are in the vulture family. I could be wrong, I think Eagles only go after moving (live) prey.

And I think it's pretty crappy if this is true.

Eagles steal from others and will eat fresh carrion.

Condors are obligate carrion eaters. They don't hunt live prey at all.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
http://litestraboen.blogspot.c...avenger-ugly-bird.html

Benjamin Franklin never supported the bald eagle for the United States symbol. He said about it, in a letter to his daughter, that "it is a bird of bad moral character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him." Franklin proposed the turkey as the symbol, a truly brave and arrogant bird according to him.

A little history there.

I didn't know that.

How ironic. :(
 

Lemon law

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Well whatever, Rooster or Donkey, I will take either for a true daily double, Alex.

But then again, I will have to see my Indiana counties ballot to see if this is just a Floyd county anomaly.
 

DefDC

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Well whatever, Rooster or Donkey, I will take either for a true daily double, Alex.

But then again, I will have to see my Indiana counties ballot to see if this is just a Floyd county anomaly.

I'm in St Joseph. (South Bend)

That PDF was dead on. That was the exact same ballot that I had...